bob_barron

Is his source something written from Matthew Good? Did he look like INXS?

Does Jimmy Carter count as a terrorist to take out with a missile?

DDP's been working various indies- He has a very high asking price and will only work certain people which is why he doesn't wrestle very much

It was a good show but at 9:10 you knew it was over

:Laughs at wrestling365's "sources": Yea- Hogan sure sounds like a 5 year old there.

This was posted in another thread. But I'll point and laugh if they sign him and then laugh even harder when the TNA marks defend it

I Tivo'ed CSINY last night, and I watched it today. The show was unresolved. I'm quite annoyed. And the killer is.... CBS News is reporting that freedom fighter and the #1 believer in peace Yasser Arafat is dead. May God rest his peace loving soul

Beautiful. Of course INXS will totally ignore this and continue to praise Arafat- but that's why we love him

This thread needs some myths. And then some facts. Don't make me take over the job

Put on your Yamika/Drink some waterka/Let's go to Arafat's grave/and piss on his bodika

On December 16, 2001, increasing international pressure persuaded Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat to address the issues of terrorism. Speaking in Arabic on Palestinian television, Arafat called on the Palestinian people to end "all military activities" against Israel. He also said, "I renew the call to completely halt any activities, especially suicide attacks, which we have condemned and always condemned." In a warning to Hamas and Islamic Jihad, Arafat said he would "only allow one authority" in the areas under his control. "We must not allow anyone to shake the credibility" of the Palestinian Authority´s "leadership and its decisions," he said and vowed to prosecute those who ignored his directives. "We will punish all planners" of terror attacks, Arafat said. "We will hunt down the violators firmly." Arafat also accused Israeli officials of "launching a brutal war" against the Palestinian Authority and its institutions, and urging them to return to peace talks. Almost immediately after the speech, militant Palestinian groups, including Hamas and Islamic Jihad, rejected Arafat's call for an end to terrorism. Just two days later (December 18, 2001), however, Chairman Arafat delivered a vastly different speech to rally in Ramallah. In that speech, he stated the following: With God´s help, next time we will meet in Jerusalem, because we are fighting to bring victory to our prophets, every baby, every kid, every man, every woman and every old person and all the young people, we will all sacrifice ourselves for our holy places and we will strengthen our hold of them and we are willing to give 70 of our martyrs for every one of theirs in this campaign, because this is our holy land. We will continue to fight for this blessed land and I call on you to stand strong. Great guy

I hope INXS isn't too upset that his political hero is dead. Fuck him

Actually the Hardyz book was a pretty enthralling story. Reading about going from backyarding to OMEGA to working all over the South to becoming jobbers and finalyly making it up to the big time was really interesting stuff

Hey PP- you gonna respond to what else C-Bacon said? I hope your headache has recovered. :-)

You're the one going to your left wing biased sites (Matthew Good??) and posting it as news, and babbling about a New World Order. I'm just using your words against you. On 9/11 the terrorists MEANT to attack us. They MEANT to kill us. When we attack Iraq- we don't mean to kill civilians. We don't mean to kill innocent people. The election of Bush will do a lot of good in trying to reduce terrorism and prevent 9/11 like acts. I'm sorry if that upsets you but we're doing the right thing. 9/11 changed the way we look at things. We can't just let them be as long as we don't hurt them. If they are terrorists or pose a threat- it's best to kill them before they kill us. Would you rather we responded to 9/11 by saying 'Oh that sucks- let's hope they don't do it again.' Saddam Hussein funded suicide bombers in Israel, had ties to Al Qada, was presumed to have WMDs (and didn't seem to like inspectors looking), violated various UN resolutions and did a lot of bad stuff to the Iraqi people. He had to go and I'm glad Bush had the balls to do something about it. Do you support the War in Afghanistan? Did you support the Persian Gulf War? I'm not asking for your sympathy since sympathy from a mentally retarded person doesn't help. I don't have a diehard conservative attitude. I didn't even vote Republican for Senate. I have my beliefs and I look up every candidate running for office and see if I agree with their voting record. I even considered voting Charles Schumer- a Democrat- and almost did. Things aren't easy over there and I hope no one expected it to be. Saddam built a network of guerilla loyalists and people who want his regime to stay. Free elections are scheduled for January and I'm looking forward to it. (Free elections means democracy by the way) If you care so much about the Iraqi people and their suffering, why did you say: Funny, I don't recall hospitals collapsing and cities being destroyed the way they are now while Saddam was in power. Nor do I recall civilians being physically humiliated and emotionally and sexually tortured. You don't seem to care that America is the #1 giver in aid around the world and we're always there to help countries out if they need it. In the mid-90s we loaned money to Russia when they were having a severe economic crisis. This is a country we hated for a long time. I'm the one who wants the Iraqi people to have a democratic government and be rid of Saddam and the loyalists. You're the one going around whining about stuff. Here's a dirty little secret for you: Kerry said he would've gone to war WMDs or not. We sanctioned him, we asked the UN to take care of it, we made resolutions. He didn't care. He kept on giving money to suicide bombers. Here's a thought. You ever think that maybe the hospital was used to store explosives and other potential weapons by the people in Falljuah? We're not killing a hospital so the enemy cannot rejuvinate moron. So every estimate except for the one that supports your argument is wrong? Okay then. It's not 100,000 though. Any country that willingly supports or harbours terrorists should be dealt with. What would you do? Proof? Sources? Anything? Of course women being given the right to vote for the first time thanks to us is something you'll ignore. (Michael Moore doesn't count) If you think the Afghani war is about oil then you really need help. Because you know- when people think of a country with oil flowing out every which way- they think Afghanistan. Do you support the war in Afghanistan? Wait- what the hell? If you said what I think you said then you really need help. The Iraqi people can elect whomever they want. Once the Iraqi people are trained for security and can police themselves- we'll leave. It will take a while but leaving the country when we're not ready is just asking for trouble and it's horribly irresponisble. Iraq was in cahoots with Al Quada, Saddam funded suicide bombers. Sounds like a bad guy to me. That's because you don't hear about Christians amd Jews blowing up buildings and stuff. It sounds mean but it's true. Then why did no group come out and condemn 9/11? Pretty peaceful guys eh? But you do. Going to left wing propaganda sites like Common Dreams doesn't sound like you accidentally stumble upon the crap you find. You're the one comparing it to 9/11 though. In 9/11 people were murdered for being Americans and going to work and enjoying life. In the Iraq war a civilian is killed for being in the wrong place wrong time. It's totally tragic and I hate that civilians have to die but we do our absolute best to attempt to minimise civilian deaths as best as possible. Because we know the war was the right thing to do and we applaud our President for having the balls to do it. You just look for reasons to whine. I lumped these quote together for the sake of convenience so we can take a look at the 'grander scheme of things' as it relates US intentions and Iraq/Saddam Hussien. Why didn't we just invade Venezeula to get oil? It's closer and probably easier. Powerplay even showed you pictures of why we seized the oil fields. Would George Bush go through all this trouble just to get some oil? I don't think so. And again- if the war was about oil- why is gas so expensive? And you don't remember that I believe in Kashmir Saddam burned tons of oil and it was really really bad. If Saddam didn't have any WMD or wasn't making any WMD- why did he kick weapons inpsectors out many times? Why didn't he let the inspectors in and show that he had nothing to hide? Because he did have something to hide. I'm stealing Slapnuts' gimmmick: Activities Known or suspected to have been involved in numerous anti-US and anti-Israeli terrorist attacks, including the suicide truck bombings of the US Embassy and US Marine barracks in Beirut in 1983 and the US Embassy annex in Beirut in September 1984. Three members of Hizballah—‘Imad Mughniyah, Hasan Izz-al-Din, and Ali Atwa—are on the FBI’s list of 22 Most-Wanted Terrorists for the hijacking in 1985 of TWA Flight 847 during which a US Navy diver was murdered. Elements of the group were responsible for the kidnapping and detention of US and other Westerners in Lebanon in the 1980s. Hizballah also attacked the Israeli Embassy in Argentina in 1992 and the Israeli cultural center in Buenos Aires in 1994. In fall 2000, Hizballah operatives captured three Israeli soldiers in the Shab’a Farms and kidnapped an Israeli noncombatant whom may have been lured to Lebanon under false pretenses. In 2003, Hizballah appeared to have established a presence in Iraq, but for the moment its activities there are limited. Hizballah Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah stated in speeches that “we are heading . . . toward the end and elimination of Israel from the region” and that the group’s “slogan is and will continue to be death to America.” Hizballah’s television station, al-Manar, continued to use inflammatory images and reporting in an effort to encourage the intifadah and promote Palestinian suicide operations. Good- the Palestinians deserve everything they get. As Powerplay said, PLO kept thumbing their nose at Israel and ignoring treaties and other orders and Israel invaded in response to that. Don't use the UN as a source that shows Israel is the bad guys. They're a bunch of Anti-Semites who don't like the concept of a Jewish state. Oh! Saddam, that awesome guy, he once invaded Israel. Where do you think Pakistan got the idea to start going after terrorists? Yea that was us. Israel is kind of in the Islamic word and they support them. Are they anti-democratic? Because now we have learned you have to smoke out threats before they happen. That's what 9/11 taught us. It's an unfourtnuate lesson to learn but it's something we have to act on. Show one quote where Bush said that. I dare you. No no no no no no. The Saddam loyalists and all that are giving us, the US military some trouble right now. So if we can't beat them easily, imagine how Iraqi rebels would do against these same people. Not very well eh? We placed sanctions on Iraq and wouldn't deal with them. Other countries did. Who is the bad guy here? So will you continue to be hypocritical by claiming we condem terrorists while saying terrorism is bad, by just blaming everything on the US and ignoring countries that aided Saddam and Iraq, etc etc? Stop the conspiracy theories, stop saying stuff like Bush winning is worse then 9/11 and stop going to Matthew Good for sources and you might be okay.

I got that from http://www.oyez.org/oyez/resource/case/1106/ btw.

Clinton v. City of New York 524 U.S. 417 (1998) Docket Number: 97-1374 Abstract Argued: April 27, 1998 Decided: June 25, 1998 Subjects: Miscellaneous: Miscellaneous Facts of the Case This case consolidates two separate challenges to the constitutionality of two cancellations, made by President William J. Clinton, under the Line Item Veto Act ("Act"). In the first, the City of New York, two hospital associations, a hospital, and two health care unions, challenged the President's cancellation of a provision in the Balanced Budget Act of 1997 which relinquished the Federal Government's ability to recoup nearly $2.6 billion in taxes levied against Medicaid providers by the State of New York. In the second, the Snake River farmer's cooperative and one of its individual members challenged the President's cancellation of a provision of the Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997. The provision permitted some food refiners and processors to defer recognition of their capital gains in exchange for selling their stock to eligible farmers' cooperatives. After a district court held the Act unconstitutional, the Supreme Court granted certiorari on expedited appeal. Question Presented Did the President's ability to selectively cancel individual portions of bills, under the Line Item Veto Act, violate the Presentment Clause of Article I? Conclusion Yes. In a 6-to-3 decision the Court first established that both the City of New York, and its affiliates, and the farmers' cooperative suffered sufficiently immediate and concrete injuries to sustain their standing to challenge the President's actions. The Court then explained that under the Presentment Clause, legislation that passes both Houses of Congress must either be entirely approved (i.e. signed) or rejected (i.e. vetoed) by the President. The Court held that by canceling only selected portions of the bills at issue, under authority granted him by the Act, the President in effect "amended" the laws before him. Such discretion, the Court concluded, violated the "finely wrought" legislative procedures of Article I as envisioned by the Framers.

Clinton v. The City of New York from 1998 made it illegal. I read that in my World Almanac

I thought Keith Olbermann was a sports broadcaster. Why do we care what he has to say about the election?

Full House rules

Today- Two chocolate donuts. A chicken cutlet on a roll. Roast beef. Egg noodles and meatballs

I think Kanyon retired. But DDP coming in sounds awesome

Whoa- that's like my school and stuff.

He's a uniter- not a divider

Hey Mike- look what I found! MYTH “The PLO had no role in fomenting intifada violence.” FACT Throughout the intifada, the PLO played a lead role in orchestrating the insurrection. The PLO-dominated Unified Leadership of the Intifada (UNLI), for example, frequently issued leaflets dictating which days violence was to be escalated, and who was to be its target. In 1989, for example, the PLO declared February 13 a day for "escalating attacks on the collaborators" and "traitors" who work for the Civil Administration in the territories. The PLO's Baghdad radio station described methods of arson through which "the orchards and fields of the Zionist enemy can be set ablaze."6 The New York Times described the discovery of "a cache of detailed secret documents showing that the PLO hired local killers to assassinate other Palestinians and carry out 'military activity' against Israelis." One document described how the PLO wanted the attacks credited to fictional groups so as not to disturb the U.S.-PLO dialogue.7 Yasser Arafat defended the killing of Arabs deemed to be "collaborating with Israel." He delegated the authority to carry out executions to the intifada leadership. After the murders, the local PLO death squad sent the file on the case to the PLO. "We have studied the files of those who were executed, and found that only two of the 118 who were executed were innocent," Arafat said. The innocent victims were declared "martyrs of the Palestinian revolution" by the PLO.8 Palestinians were stabbed, hacked with axes, shot, clubbed and burned with acid. The justifications offered for the killings varied. Sometimes, being employed by the Civil Administration in the West Bank and Gaza Strip was reason enough. In other cases, contact with Jews warranted a death sentence. In October 1989, a Palestinian father of seven was knifed to death in Jericho after selling floral decorations to Jews who were building a succah. Accusations of "collaboration" with Israel were sometimes used as a pretext for acts of personal vengeance. Women deemed to have behaved "immorally" were also among the victims.9 The UNLI's calls for violence escalated after the 1990 Temple Mount riot in which 17 Arabs were killed.. Yasser Abd-Rabbo — formerly the PLO's interlocutor in its dialogue with the U.S. — declared that "the war of stabbing with knives against the usurpers of Jerusalem is just beginning."10 The PLO continued its efforts to foment violence throughout 1991. On March 3, the UNLI issued a communiqué calling for "increased confrontation" with Israeli forces in the West Bank and Gaza. Another PLO leaflet, issued in September, called for the "execution" of anyone who sells property in Jerusalem to Jews.11 According to the Israeli government, the PFLP alone carried out 122 terrorist attacks during 1991, resulting in the murders of 18 residents of Israel and the territories. Crimes committed by Fatah included the July 4 murder of a 61-year-old Arab villager near Jenin; the September killing of Israeli Sgt. Yoram Cohen and the October murder of a man found stabbed to death in a Gaza street, his head covered with a sack. A note bearing the words "Force-17," denoting Arafat's personal bodyguard, was found on the body.12 Later in the intifada, Hamas began to vie with the PLO for control of the uprising. In December 1992, for example, Hamas began to target IDF troops, killing four in several daring ambushes.