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The OAO third and FINAL Presidential Debate Thread
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Loder: What's been knocking you out yourself lately? Is there anything today that you think is better than Jane's Addiction was back in the day? Rose: I don't know about, like, as far as aggressive goes, but I really like the new Fiona Apple. Loder: Really? Rose: You know, I liked the last record, I like the new one. Who do I listen to that's aggressive? I think that the "End Of Days" soundtrack is a lot of fun. Limp Bizkit is fun. The White Zombie stuff is fun. Loder: Do you think that stuff can be done in that old sort of [GN'R] style, that blues-based style, or do you think that's just over? Rose: No, no, I don't think any style of music's over. I mean, look at [Lou Bega's] "Mambo #5." Loder: True. Coincidence? I think not.
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The biggest rumor was November of this year, then it changed to February. Maybe Axl saw the new Eminem album and the Nirvana Box Set in November, and pushed it back a bit. People have been waiting so long anyways...........I guess that asshole figured what's the difference? The GNR people are already placing feelers out there for an early 2005 European Tour, so take that as you will. Which is with much skepticism.
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February? HTGTH: Now the subject of GN'R... Because you know if I don't ask, I'm gonna get into trouble or something...... Tommy: Yeah, you'd get bad e-mail tomorrow. Are you gonna transcribe this or are you gonna play this on the web site? Put sound bites? HTGTH: I think I'll transcribe it, because I don't really like hearing my own voice too much (laughs) Tommy: Fair enough, me neither. HTGTH: Do you have any message to all the people who visit the Here Today... Gone To Hell! web site? Tommy: Thanks for the support on my record. And, keep tuned in because I heard stuff before I left the States, some of the final mixes, or close to final mixes of a bunch of the stuff we've been working on for the record. They sounded epic to me, they sounded fantastic and I'm waiting as patiently as everyone else to make it happen. Honestly, it's gotta be right and when it comes out, it's gonna be at least as right as it is in our eyes. So, it's definitely very close to being done and when it comes out we're just gonna have to hit the road and do the whole world and have fun with it. I'm just telling you that it's definitely gonna come out. HTGTH: Do you keep up with what's happening with GN'R while you're out here in Europe? Tommy: I haven't had a chance to check in with them yet. I always check in every few weeks just to see what's going on. Get the latest, what's happening, where I need to be, what's going on, you know. HTGTH: Have you heard about the rumors about the new guitar player being auditioned? Tommy: I knew there were some guys on the hook for checking it out. I haven't heard anything past that. I don't think we've actually..... I don't think there'd be any auditions without me being there. Because I think, we need to put the band together to hear them play. So I would imagine that's probably gonna happen when I get home at some point. HTGTH: Everything that happened this year with GN'R, people are worried about the band. Are they together?... Tommy: No, no... Buckethead going away is the best thing that could've happened to the band. It's gonna be great. I won't get too far into that, because I don't really like slamming people or getting into people's personalities or anything like that. It's a really good thing. HTGTH: You said "Chinese Democracy" is almost done. But people are wondering what's been happening all these years? Have you worked on 18 songs for one album or is it like a bunch of songs that you could put out within a year or so? Tommy: Originally we had a fucking whole lot of songs we were working on. We kinda rolled around them and just kinda kept molding them as we went along. The process of making the GN'R record is a long process to begin with. Because basically, Axl as a producer is trying to get the best out of eight guys and get them all in a song, like trying to pull everyone in. You know, mush it together like a fucking piece of clay or something. Trying to form a piece of art work out of it. It takes time. It's not like when I was in the Replacements, Paul would come to rehearsal with a couple of songs. "Ok, this is how they go, watch me play the chords," we play it, go to the studio and knock it down in an hour. It's not like that. He has a way of working with people and pulling them in. Get you to bring something to the plate that's gonna be special and cool for that song. And it just takes a long time. Because you got eight guys you know. So that process takes a while. When you're working on 35 or so pieces of music that you're trying to finish. Trying to... Basically the cream of the crop of that, to make a record of. It's really hard to decide. Because out of 35 things, we might all like parts and bits of 30 songs. So then you gotta further narrow that down, and you know. It just takes a while. That's all I can say about that. It just takes a while and when it's done, it'll be done and when it comes out we're gonna totally tour behind it and fucking, and rock out. It's really, to say to the GN'R fans that are waiting for that. Axl ain't just sitting up there fucking, sitting there watching fucking TV, waiting for the fucking sun to come up. It's like he's been working on this shit for a long time, we've all been working on it sporadically throughout. It's gotta be right. HTGTH: It's gonna be like your album, all kinds of styles or focus on just one...? Tommy: No, no, no... This record is definitely, you know, got some chances on it that I think are great. There's some really beautiful pieces, some really hard pieces, there's some real fucking, you know, somewhat self indulgent creative pieces that people are either gonna love or hate. But they're fucking there because, as an artist that's how you fucking have to make records you know. HTGTH: You've all been writing songs for it? Everyone's basically credited for every song? Tommy: Yeah, I mean, I think pretty much everyone's brought something to the plate that we've turned into one thing or the other. I don't know if the song or two I wrote is necessarily gonna make this record or the next record. But everyone's brought stuff together that we've worked out and turned into stuff and it'll probably used at some point one way or the other. We've all contributed to pretty much everything on it in some form or another, you know.
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20 years off of other people's material. Brilliant. (Man I hope I am not proved wrong on this one). Like I said earlier, before you got all personally offended, the guy is just not my cup of tea. I hate his style of music, I hate him personally, and I hate the undeserving support he gets. Em's style willl not last for 20 years of course. However, I can see him branching off into other styles, I mean, shit, his lyrics really are that good. I can't be the only one to see that. I just doubt MJ had much input in anything he did, to me that means no talent. But, lay off the caffeine. I don't see where the personal attacks come from. I like a little spirited debate. And I very much doubt I have ever acted "thugged out."
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You've shattered my heart into a billion pieces. I am about to convulse on the ground in agony. This conversation cannot go on, for my well being. How about NAS? Seems to be talented. I liked "One Mic" but I never really got into him.
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First off, I made the point of the fact that the guy has no idea what he is singing about. He is taking other people's ready made lyrics and using em. Big deal. Oh, he can dance? Big deal, guys like Usher, who I hate, put MJ to shame. Secondly, I hate MTV. Nothing good has been on MTV, with the exception of Em probably, since like 1995. I listened to Em before he was ever on MTV. His album, "Infinite"? Yeah, I had it. Let me know when that delusional child molester gets another "Artist Of The Millenium" award. Lol. He's a fraud, both musically and personally. And that's that.
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Granted, "Eminem Show" was more poppy. But if you've ever heard any of his stuff before he broke into the mainstream..........the guy can fuckin flow man. He can write his ass off too. Jay-Z is so much more pop then Em.
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Yep that's what I said. "Stan" better then anything MJ ever recorded. Brilliant even. Sample a love song, turn it into a song about an obsessed fan. What's "Billie Jean" about? Fucking a groupie? Jackson himself admitted he was scared of females and normal sex! "Don't Stop Till You Get Enough"? Probably more about fucking, which he has never experienced. One is a phony, a perverted criminal phony even, and one is just a criminal. I'm right, you're wrong, blah blah blah. When the sick fuck goes to jail, and all his secrets are revealed, I want apologies from all you MJ supporters.
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Hardcore gangster bullshit? That's just a rap stereotype. Em has had the best lyrics and delivery in rap since 2Pac. His only downfall are his pop songs, and the only one that has truly sucked, is the new one, which I can't even listen to. Did MJ even write his own shit? I doubt it, but correct me if I am wrong. He is just as much a shined up, teach em to dance, and write their songs for em icon as New Kids On The Block, or Timberlake, or Spears ever were or are. At least he was shined up till he started fucking with his face and skintone. He didn't even want to be recognized as black till his albums stopped selling and he blamed it on "racism". You don't have a race Michael. You've turned yourself into a noseless alien.
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Yet the promoter hired New Jack. Right. Ditto. So so ditto.
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Yeah, but Kashmere says he isn't going to press charges? Zuh? Internet work anyone?
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I dunno, Em has owned the charts pretty much since his "arrival" and MJ hasn't had a serious hit since what, "Scream" or whatever the song with Janet was called? I just never liked him, it's a personal bias, he never "spoke" to me musically like Em has and does, and I'm not really a rap guy. I just don't know why people are defending him over and over, especially blacks, when he did everything he could to appear white! Oh well............
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I guess I'll be the one to say it. MJ wishes he had Em's songwriting abilties. Also, Em never made an awful fuckin song with Eddie Murphy, or a song about dunking a fucking basketball. You deserve to be slapped for being so fucking ignorant. Off the Wall and Thriller are landmark albums that revitialized pop music. What has Em done? "will the real slim shady please stand up?" His songs pander to 13 years who think they are drinking thugn juice when they are actually laugh at poop and fart jokes for 60 minutes. Oh, and lets not forget the genius of writing a song about killing his wife. Think of that, listen to Off the Wall and get back to me. The Real Slim Shady is still much better then a song about dunking a fucking basketball. Or let's not forget the numerous love songs about broads he's written when he is a................. I'll leave it up to Norm MacDonald......... "You are aware he is a homosexual pedophile right?" "Stan", "The Way I Am", "Lose Yourself", "If I Had" and "Rock Bottom" are all better then anything Jackson ever did, and you can quote me on that. Sorry UYI.
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NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 12, 2004--There have been numerous reports over the last few weeks from various sources claiming that one person or another has been invited to join Guns N' Roses. To set the record straight no one - we repeat no one - has been invited to join the band. We would normally not respond to rumours but it is wrong to allow a few self publicists the platform to mislead the media and Guns N' Roses fans. We will let you know when there is credible news on this subject.
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I guess I'll be the one to say it. MJ wishes he had Em's songwriting abilties. Also, Em never made an awful fuckin song with Eddie Murphy, or a song about dunking a fucking basketball.
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What was worse? MJ molesting little boys, or Steve Harvey's show on the WB?
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Blah blah blah, somebody made fun of MJ. That's right, Eminem is the first person to ever ever do that. God I abhor stupidity. MJ and Steve Harvey both get my "Shut the fuck up!" award this week. Here's a tip. Stop with the plastic surgery and fuckin little boys you got drunk, and maybe people won't make fun of you. Man I hope horrible things happen to him in prison..........
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I still have never listened to that based on principle. I think Page found his way back into heroin to contribute to that abortion.
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From the book "Sex, Lies And Headlocks" After the Hogan/Bischoff vs. DDP/Leno match at Road Wild 1998............ "The biker crowd partied well into the night at a country music concert that featured Travis Tritt, while the wrestlers retired to the parking lot of a Best Western that had been decorated to celebrate Hogan's 45th birthday party. It was the kind of party that everyone attended-if only because it was good politics to stay on Hogan's good side. Kevin Nash stayed in his room however, brooding. He couldn't get off his mind with the photo in the next day's papers would look like: Leno wearing baggy sweats, pretending to strangle the bug eyed and blad Hogan. It was a giant fuck you to the audience, he thought, a sign that they were all just winking their way to the bank. Though they'd worked together closely, Nash couldn't say he'd ever actually talked to Hogan, that was how distant he could be. But tonight, Nash was determined to have himself heard. So, after showering, he went down to the party and buttonholed the tanned star. They wound up talking for nearly an hour, sitting on the bumpers of parked cars. Nash told Hogan that the show they'd just done was a perfect example of what was wrong with WCW. He understood Hogan's income was heavily influenced by the buy rates of the pay per views he worked on. But no other wrestler could build a following or add to the company's depth as long as Hogan kept using his power to assure that each of the monthly story cycles climaxed with him at the forefront of the action. Hogan listened patiently, more patiently then Nash expected. But at the end of the hour, he concluded, "Brother, what you want is going to cost me money." Nash looked at him. "What could I say?" he'd recall. Hulk after all, was just reciting the code of the boys. So Nash shook his hand and walked away saying, "Okay, dude."
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I've planned on saving around 2 or 3 grand and spending a year in Mexico since I was like 18. It's never happened of course, I am fuckin awful with money.
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From an email sent by Johnny Kashmere........... "It has come to our attention here at PWU, that CZW owner John Zandig made a very special announcement to the CZW locker room on Saturday. The substance of this adress was basically that PWU is trying to shut CZW down and in turn take food out of everyone's mouths. So, of course, Zandig has now told his locker room in typical Zandig fashion "if you go wrestle for them, just stay there". Well, we at PWU just want to get it on record that we NEVER sent anything to the commission, nor have we made ANY attempt whatsoever at "shutting CZW down". All of our efforts are going towards having a successful company that offers wrestlers another payday, some exposure, and some experience working with different guys. Being accused of underhanded wrestling politics is not unusual these days, but it simply is NOT THE CASE here. We have had plenty of opportunities to hurt CZW and we didnt take them. We were offered the old Viking Hall to run our shows and we declined the offer to run in NorthEast Philly instead. As Zandig attempts to play GOD once again and forbid the loyal wrestlers he has left from making a payday (especially considering thast CZW has some of the lowest wrestler paydays around)....just remember this everyone that wrestled for PWU WANTED TO BE THERE!!! PWU will never use any wrestler as a pawn to make CZW look bad or anything even close to that. Before we are accused of sometihing we absolutely didnt do, please CZW, at least do the legwork to check your facts. If we tried to close CZW down, we would be open about it and shout it from the rooftops....we wouldnt hide and pretend it wasnt us....we have balls. Sorry to bother everyone with this, but it needed to be said. This will be a topic on Radio Unplugged this Thursday, so you'll get to hear this right from the horse's mouth. See you then."
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"Takeover" by Jay Z using the Doors "Five To One" beat. Only because it has drunken Morrison in the background with "Gonna win yeah/we're taking over!" and "C'MOOOOOON!" Clutch use of one of my favorites of all time.
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Budweiser and Geno's Cheesesteaks.
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"You are now Flounder..........." "Flounder? Why Flounder?" <BURP> "Why not!"