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Damn, my Phillies blew a chance late in the game to tie/go ahead and lost to Mr. Roboto and the Giants... 2 back of fish.

#36. Tom Brandi wrestled a match...and then later on The Patriot wrestles a match! DEEP TALENT POOL.

Cardinal red is one of the colors of my fraternity.

***But at least it's not as bad as the VHS edition - no video packages, no backstage segments and the Cruiserweight Open and both shows' Tag Team Championship matches are edited-out.*** Sounds like an improvement. Except for the Evolution promo at the beginning on Foley/Rock. That was the best PPV promo in many years.

So basically "Kenzo" will be using Berlyn's gimmick? Bodyguard. Woman at ringside. Evil forreigner. Yay.....zzzz.....

Probably like this... Tajiri/Batty: 4 minutes. Eugene/Conway: 4 minutes. Edge/Orton: 10-12 minutes. HHH/Shelton: 8-10 minutes. Cage Match: 17-22 minutes. Anyone else hoping that: 1) Michaels and HHH keep their issue with each other to JUST THAT, *each other*. 2) Benoit does commentary for the Main Event? "Well Chris, both men have expressed wanting a title shot..."

Hey....I was bored so I figured you guys might wanna see this and compare it to who's wrestling tonight. MONDAY NIGHT RAW 2004 WIN-LOSS RECORDS Singles Matches Al Snow 0-1 Spike 2-2 Richards 2-1 RVD 1-2 Booker T 2-1 Batista 1-1 Goldberg 4-0 Henry 2-2 Orton 4-1 Conway 1-2 Venis 0-2 Cade 1-0 Benjamin 2-0 Tajiri 1-4 Michaels 2-1 Kane 7-4 Grandmaster 0-2 Hurricane 1-3 Grenier 0-1 Dupree 0-5 Test 0-1 Matt Hardy 1-4 Jericho 3-5 D-Von 0-1 Rico 2-2 HHH 2-3 Eddie Guerrero 1-0 Chris Benoit 7-1 Rhyno 2-2 Storm 0-1 Bubba Ray 1-0 The Coach 0-1 Ric Flair 0-1 Christian 4-0 With tonight's matches...Christian's undefeated streak is on the line. Jericho could fall to 3-6 (ouch...). Batista gets a rare singles match. Tajiri has an awful record in just 1 1/2 months. Benjamin can make it 3-0 (with the 3 wins over HHH). Orton is a solid 4-1, a non-title loss to HBK being the loss, BTW. EDGE AND EUGENE MAKE THEIR FIRST SINGLES APPEARENCES. Tag W/L Hardy & Test 0-1 Dupree & Conway 0-1 Test & Steiner 0-1 Cade & Jindrak 1-0 Helms & Rosey 0-2 RVD/Booker 5-1 Christian & Hardy 0-1 Flair/Batista 4-3 Benoit/Edge 2-0 Dudleyz 0-1 Jericho/Christian 1-1 Jericho/RVD 1-0 HBK & Benoit 0-2 Batista & Orton 1-0 Based on this, RVD/Booker (the W/L) and Flair/Batista (the competition) are the best Raw teams this year. And finally, so you know ALL your favorites W/L combined... 6-Man Tags (note some 3-man teams have faced 2-man teams) Batista/Flair/Orton 2-1 Batista/HHH/Orton 0-1 Edge/Benjamin/Tajiri 1-0 8-Man Tags Conway/Dupree/Cade/Jindrak 1-0 Buibba/RVD/D-Von/Booker T 0-1 Foley/Benjamin/HBK/Benoit 1-0 HHH/Orton/Flair/Batista 0-1 There ya go...yer' welcome! Discuss!

I predict: Batista defeats Tajiri clean. Triple H defeats Benjamin with help from Orton. Eugene defeats Conway. Edge defeats Orton by DQ *or* Orton defeats Edge....when Benjamin interferes. Benjamin attacks Orton (DQ) or messes up an attack and Edge loses. Either way, sets up a 3-way challenge for the title. NO IDEA about the cage. Christian could win and go on to Benoit... Same for Jericho... I'm looking forward to it.

A quick note on those "amazing" 80's teams... The Brainbusters Good team. Were only there for a year, tho. The Rockers The Rockers pretty much sucked in the ring and told some lame "stories" until 1990. Still my favorite team ever, tho. Demolition AWFUL in the ring. AWFUL. Cool look, although a ripoff of the Road Warriors. The Powers of Pain Total Road Warriors takeoff. Shitty workers, too. The Orient Express Sato/Tanka were terrible. Kato/Tanaka were watchable. Barely. The Rougeaus Decent, if only a lame comedy heel team. The British Bulldogs Great team. Once Kid was too hurt tho, not very entertaining. The Twin Towers You're joking right. That's like saying "Big Show & A-Train" are a "great team of the 2000's". The Killer Bees Decent, but not a top tier/serious team. The Bushwhackers Hahahahaha. The Bolsheviks Hahahahaha. The Dream Team Ah...the modern day equivalent to Rico/Haas, in terms of workrate. Just there. The Young Stallions Hahahahahahaha. The Conquistadores Ah...no. The Hart Foundation Great team. SO ROUGHLY...we've got about 3 great teams in the 1980's that you've listed. Odd that you put teams like Bushwackers, Bees, and such on there and leave off Windham/Rotunda, Honky/Valentine, Strike Force, Can-Ams, etc. But this just proves... THE 1980's HAS A GREAT NUMBER OF COLORFUL CHARACTERS. THEY HAD FEW ACTUAL GOOD TEAMS.

You peeps better stop bashing Rockers Vs. Barbarian/Haku. That match ruled.

I would like to order them via you. I'm looking for the 89/90 Rumble DVD and WM 1/2. Let me know the best way to contact you (e-mail, AIM, etc) and what the approx. price you need is. Thanks.

Say what you will RVDMARK420....but no matter how many HBK/Benoit, Eddie/Benoit, Angle/Lesnar, Eddie/Lesnar, HHH/HBK/Benoit, Benoit winning Rumble etc. type great workrate masterpieces we get nowadays... NOTHING will have the HEAT that... Warrior/Hogan, Savage/Hogan, Andre/Hogan, and pretty much just about every decent match had. Rock/Hogan I was the last example of a heat-bomb. The crowd used to mark out for a dropkick from Marty Jannetty...or a Santana Flying Forearm. Nowadays you have to put on a ***** bout (Rumble 03 WWE Title Bout) just to get some clapping.

I'm embarassed that after sitting through the lame skits, the eventual big-match payoff was the same old/same old HHH run-in. And the match was mediocre, killed by a commercial.

Tajiri? The guy JONATHON COACHMAN and GARRISON CADE pinned in back to back days? Maybe in a few years....on HeAT, he will receive a non-title match.

Christian rocks. I'd so buy Bad Blood if he main events. His heel stable, entourage, whatever, and their beatdown of Jericho was the best part of Raw on Monday. I'd dig X and Benoit at Bad Blood, with Benoit goin' over. But then, I suppose Jericho has put Tyson Tomko over...to balance the wins of the stable. Eh.

Curious...CADE has "the look?" Of what? Jobber from 1998 WCW Saturday Night episode who WENT TANNING? Ooooh, PUSH HIM! Flying elbow! He sucks.

Benoit/HBK sucked for me until the hot ending, and then was ruined by the run-ins. They obviously don't "suck", but the match was a poorer effort than their previous 3 encounters, so I was dissapointed, highly. Edge/Regal didn't MAIN EVENT THE SHOW for like ever. Big difference (comparison to HBK/HHH feud)

I've been a lifelong WWE/WCW/NWA/ECW/GWF/CZW fan, I love the sport, and everything associated with it. I always dug the cool heels, the talented performers, the better mic workers, and even when my boy Jericho was jobbing to Alex Wright, Benoit was passing out to Meng, and Jeff Jarrett was wiping out Malenko, I still was optimistic. The WWE became so popular in the late 90's and I was so happy to get to share my enjoyment with all the mainstream, new fans. I've put up with the shitty WWE product of 2001-2003 and had to endure a failed WCW/ECW Invasion, Triple H's super awful title reign, Goldberg, lack of Cruiserweights, ridiculous storylines, Bischoff's return to annoy me, and the vanilla boring overpushed suck-ass no-talents that OVW has produced (minus a few exceptions). On Monday, RAW was on. A ton of my friends were over, and even 1st time viewers got generally hyped up for BENOIT Vs. MICHAELS. Raw was a good show. The main event sucked. Not only did HBK/Benoit wrestled a significantly poorer effort than they did in the 1st match, as well as BOTH triple threats, but the match was only serving one purpose: Destroy Benoit's credibility, and establish that Triple H runs the show, and can make it so anyone wins, as he sees fit. Fuck Raw. Reading the Smackdown! spoilers, I feel like the WWE is purposely trying to out-do Vince Russo's 99-2000 WCW as the biggest joke and parody of carnival, bogus, bullshit, "fuck you fans!" wrestling ever. I won't spoil anything, but I think you know what I'm talking about. Why should I continue to waste my money and be a fan? The house shows are boring/unimportant. Benoit's GOT the belt. Anything from here on will dissapoint me leading to him losing it. I got to see Eddie win the belt. Cruiserweights are unpushed and are a joke. BRADSHAW is main eventing. HBK/HHH are still as homoesexually unappealing as ever, and they're "feud" has been boring forever. Lawler/Ross suck. Cole sucks. The whole business is practically exposed. I feel embarassed to watch wrestling with my friends. EMBARASSED. Thanks, WWE.

I think Tape Traders are pretty worthless. They add nothing to growing companies, steal revenue from growing companies, and generally disrespect the business. Good for WWE.

This thread just brought tears to my eyes.

Stupid fucking WCW. I'll say this, I just watched the WM 20 DVD main event. That title match was more important and emotional to me and to a helluva lot of people than a WCW title match could ever DREAM of. The difference? It isn't help by pathetic champions like Ron Simmons, David Arquette, Jeff Jarrett, Ron Garvin, Vince Russo, Booker T, and Harley Race. That's how I see it.

Booker T had done jack and shit to earn a shot at HHH's World Title. Except win a battle royal and suddenly have a shot at WRESTLEMANIA? There you go. he wasn't even ON THE PPV the month before. As for Nash... A run-in on Raw, and a PINFALL LOSS as the PPV before (Backlash) does not warrant a title shot either. Thus, neither were credible/believable challengers.

He should ditch the Ultimo Dragon/Hayabusa/lame mask getup...

I watch Judgment Day 2001 all the time. Regal/Rikishi has no place on a PPV, as both suck. Lita/Chyna was god-awful. Chyna kept nippling out. The 3-way Hardcore Match was god-awful. Benoit/Angle...mixed feelings. it was pretty damn good and exciting. But its a 2/3 falls match and Benoit wins the first fall in like 2 MINUTES! Are you kidding me? The ending to this match also SUCKS, as E & C simply hold Benoit out of the ring as Angle climbs the ladder and wins. Plus the premise for the match is LAME: "you stole my medels!" Call the cops, pussy. Overrated match/premise. Kane/HHH sucks. Sorry. Taker/Austin is BORING and they MISS THE FINISH OF AUSTIN PINNING TAKER. COME ON. The only redeemable thing is the tag team turmoil. But the decent team of Malenko/Saturn is dispatched of by the slow APA. Then we get the Dudleys brawling with the APA. Then X-Factor (who I thought had potential) getting rid of the APA and Hardyz. Jericho/Benoit v. X-Factor, and then E & C were good matches! I can't believe that show is getting praise. Backlash, which was pretty shitty, was even better overall.

Quote: ***At least the Raw title has always had more contenders while smd was generally Show/Angle/Lesnar/Taker for 18 months before Eddy and Bradshaw entered the picture...*** Show/Angle/Lesnar/Taker put up the following matches: Show/Angle/Lesnar at Vengeance 03 Angle/Lesnar at WM Angle/Lesnar Iron Man Angle/Lesnar at SummerSlam Lesnar/Taker at No Mercy 02 Taker/Angle Smackdown match THAT is just until late 2003. From Sept 02...let's count the good Raw world title matches... Cant think of any in 2002. Flair/HHH in May 03 was decent for 5 minutes. HBK/HHH in December 03. I'll take "those 4 on Smackdown" (including the frickin Big Show who had the best year of his career) over HHH/Goldberg Vs. Unproven Jobber League of America (RVD, Booker, Mark Henry, Scott Steiner, Kevin Nash, Christian) and their shitty matches anytime!