Vyce

Wierd, Bush was up by 5% all night and then boom. I wouldn't put too much faith in those numbers. Bush will still win it - but now you have the Democrat Secretary of State mucking things up by claiming "there are still votes to be counted!"

On Ohio?? I just went to CNN.com and did the math. Jefferey (someone) said Kerry's hopes for Ohio seem 'non-existent' They are non-existant. The effort is completely futile.... ....but Kerry and the Democrats, in their own arrogance, will drag it out, no matter how much it damages their party or the country.

EVERYONE is giving Nevada to Bush. Where'd you get your info, Bob?

He's the only one on CNN who has the balls to insinuate it. He's been hinting for a couple hours now that, with Bush up far ahead in Ohio and winning the PV, Kerry should consider conceeding for the good of us all.

That big Bush lead in Ohio is just NOT going away. At this point, with the number of provisional ballots out there (anywhere from 125k to 140k), Kerry would have to win ALL of them to even have a prayer of making it close (and even that is futile, given that not all of the provisional ballots will likely be declared valid).

I think the shock is just hitting me now. Bush has won both the popular vote AND the electoral vote......a clear victory on both fronts....... And the Democrats have STILL found a way to fuck things up.

If you support fighting this obvious outcome, you are, as I figured, trying to tear down the political system because, like a petulant child, you are unable to handle a loss. If the shoe fits --- and with Gabe, it does --- that's his problem. I find it cute that you think Kerry has a prayer. -=Mike If George Bush is running this country, then It isn't my country, I didn't vote for him, he's not My President. Oh FUCK you. FUCK YOU. That's the biggest pile of melodramatic, petty-ass bullshit I've heard in a good long time. It was fucking RETARDED when the Republicans said it about Clinton when he was president, it's retarded now. Are you an American citizen? Then Bush is your president. DEAL WITH IT. I don't say this often, but for this I really will: if you CAN'T deal with it, then please get the fuck out, there are literally tens of thousands of people from other countries that'd love to take your place here and have Bush as their president.

Well, they had a chance to do what's right for America, and they've blown it.

Only 3% of precincts left in Ohio, and Bush is STILL up over 120k votes. If they fight this, the Democrat party will meltdown.

If he did that, he'd actually earn a little bit of my respect.

Kerry would have to win at least three-fourths of the provisional ballots. The odds, quite simply, are very much against him.

CNN says that the youth vote? Virtually NO difference between now and the last election.

You should keep watching CNN - they're all swearing that "We can't possibly proclaim a winner tonight." It's amusing in its ridiculousness.

Bush's lead has remained steady at 120k. Bush has won the state. If Kerry wants to sick the lawyers on him, I say 'Bring it on', and watch American turn on him so fast it'd make even the most staunch liberals' heads spin.

Oh, this is bullshit. CNN says that Iowa can't be called for a few days because of "mechanical problems with the voting machines".

Okay, question time again - let's assume Bush wins Ohio with over 100k votes.....enough so that the "provisional ballots" the Dems are hanging all of their hopes on are meaningless. How much damage will Kerry be doing the Democratic party if he refuses to concede and subsequently drags the country through another month-long court battle?

I'm glad there is not. -=Mike Wait - wasn't BBC doing election coverage with Moore as one of the commentators? Man.......that almost makes me want to watch the BBC. Almost. But let's not get crazy.

I think we will - but not for a while. It'll probably be a dozen years or so. Cross your fingers for 2016.

MAN. I sympathize that you're upset about Bush winning, but please, all of you Democrats who are acting like this: learn to lose GRACEFULLY. THAT is the way you earn respect from us cold-hearted 'pubs. Not by whining like children.

Send that memo to Kerry please. OBAMA in '12! (That's right I'm conceeding '08, Dems need to restructure) Who do you guys think the GOP nominee will be in 2008? Jeb? That's what my friend swears, but I cannot believe that it'll happen. My money is either Guiliani or McCain gets the spot.

How do you type? With those heavy hands of yours?

Here's something I'm sure you've heard before: we Americans are quite glad you're up there instead of down here with us. Gracious, senior. Maybe when your best friend comes home in a bodybag, it'll hit home for you. Or when your uncle loses his job. Maybe your child will be a homosexual and will be ostracised and be deprived of equal status as everyone else. This is like the 1950's again, and it is going to have damaging results. Wow, you really are clueless. -=Mike Enlighten me. Please. I don't wish to --- considering you're Canadian and I cannot care less what you think. -=Mike There you go with your damn ethnocentric attitude again.

Jobber should just stop. If SOMEHOW Kerry pulls Ohio out of his ass (which isn't going to happen, but still), then come back and gloat about it. But you're making a drunken fool out of yourself.

Here's something I'm sure you've heard before: we Americans are quite glad you're up there instead of down here with us.

Man, I may not be able to go to school tomorrow. This night is gonna lay me to waste.