EVIL~! alkeiper

He could've gotten antsy and impatient and tried to swing for the fences...but he stayed patient and had a smart at bat, not all of those were too far from the strike zone So why doesn't Miguel Cairo get the same credit? You know what? God help the press if they actually had to admit that Alex Rodriguez is a better player than Derek Jeter. The double is EASILY the key hit in the rally. And after today's games, here is Rodriguez's career postseason line.... .380/.409/.619

What exactly was so amazing about what Jeter did? He took four pitches from a pitcher who couldn't find the strike zone, and ran home on a sacrifice fly.

Probably about 2:1.

Please take out Joe Nathan.

STRIKE!

Fuck. TAKE HIM OUT!!!

My policy is that the game in later innings gets top priority.

On another note, keeping Nathan in could become the most second-guessed move of the postseason.

Well, then you might like to watch the other game, or something. It'd be better than inactivity.

And again with the stall tactics. I have to get up at 6am, you bastards.

And I think Sturtze's contract with the devil just ran out.

The Yankees could really use two runs. If they just tie the game, then they have to put one of their other relievers on the mound.

I live in Pennsylvania, but because I'm in a tourist trap I'm surrounded by Yankee fans.

Augie Ojeda, former Chicago Cub. Can't hit the ball even if his life depended on it. Also, anyone else think that that blonde saying, "I'd do ANYTHING for my dad" with that look she has is disturbing? Depends of your definition of disturbing.

I would have to wonder how a pitcher that exists in such a fragile emotional state could succeed at all in the majors. I just can't believe that a pitcher can not exist without a statistic.

It is hard to say, because even now there is no standard criteria for electing relievers. I think relievers that came along before the change in strategy have gotten shortchanged, notably Dan Quisenberry. There are a dozen guys like Stu Miller and Johnny Murphy, who are not remembered well because they didn't collect saves, but were just as good as the top relievers today. Since only three relievers have made the Hall (two of which spent part of their careers as starters), its hard to see eliminating the save having a large impact. The leaders already (Lee Smith) are not inducted. I think voters should recognize a good pitcher from the traditional statistics, and not need saves to make that distinction. Judging from the relievers they've elected at this point, I don't think the save makes an impact.

The save debate could be interesting, so I started a separate thread for it.

Both myself and staJack had the same thought simultaniously. Should we just eliminate the save completely? In my view, it is a junk stat, more dependant on opportunity than any sort of ability. Mariano Rivera is the greatest closer of our era, and he's only led the league twice in saves. The effectiveness of relievers is better measured through ERA, Opp. BA, BBs, Ks, etc. The save forces managers to use relievers ineffeciently. I think the save should just get tossed.

Personally, I think the save should be thrown completely off the scoresheets.

And the result would have been the same if Morneau ran.

Damnit. The Twins just took out their best hitter for Luis F'n Rivas.

As entertaining as this all is, please stick to baseball talk in this thread. If you want to talk about TSA, take it to HD.

What? Killing time on the mound before bringing in the new pitcher. Or sometimes having Stottlemyre talk to the entire team on the mound, and then Torre comes out. The Yankees certainly aren't the only team that does it, but when its 11:30 at night, and you have an 8am class the next morning, it gets really tiring.

This is the number one thing that annoys me about the Yankees. Late-inning stall tactics.

Anyone else dig the Budwiser Joe Buck commercial?