strummer

Yes, I remember watching the match a few days ago on the Benoit DVD, his comments stick out like a sore thumb in that match and come across as amazing distasteful. Andre/Hogan was always going to be a huge match, granted Andre needed someone to talk for him because of his accent but Heenan didn't make Andre any more over by being his manager, the heel turn and the fact it was on Hogan made Andre so over. Studd and Bundy were never truly over and any heat they had once again came from their clashes with Andre and Hogan And Orndorff and Flair didn't need Heenan to get them over, they were already over or would have easily have been capable of getting themselves over if need be. The fans hated Heenan, and then by proxy anyone associated with Heenan. Heenan helped Andre because Bobby was the thorn in Hogan's side, always trying to end Hulkamania. He talked for Andre and was able to get the match over as a spectacle, an ultimate confrontation. He helped Orndorff for the same reason. He didn't get him over, but helped him get more over. Bundy and Studd were over in mid 80s WWF, if you see the HOF DVD, Studd was getting mega heel heat during his run. His constant praising of Flair helped out with the fans who may not have known about Flair's NWA days. Heenan put over Flair as a wrestling God

WOW, I think that's the first time I've ever read that on a wrestling board. I thought everyone found Bobby funny, but to each his own

and Bobby may have lost his comedic touch for a few years, but he got Jim Ross and Paul Heyman to break character at WM 17 with his "Hey Tony!" line at the beginning of the gimmick Battle Royal. And he got multiple standing ovations during his HILARIOUS HOF induction speech in 04

Bobby didn't help Andre, Studd, Bundy, Orndorff, Flair?

again Bobby did put over the wrestlers and the match, he just didn't do it by talking about the psychology and workrate. His mocking of the faces and praising of the heels put the wrestlers over. Tenay put over the psychology, moves and workrate and Bobby did the insulting and heeling. I wast just watching an old Thunder from 99 and Bobby and Tenay worked fine together, it was actually Tony getting in the way. Tenay loved working with Bobby, and I think both couldn't stand Tony.

BTW, Cornette considers Heenan the best wrestling manager ever and is one his wrestling idols

but you can argue that Bobby's favoring of the heels and making fun of the faces DID get the wrestlers over. Bobby might not have explained the psychology of the match or explain certain nuances of in ring wrestling, but he did put the wrestlers over through his heel persona.

For those who saw Cornette in his prime, what made him so funny?, I really can't imagine him being funnier than Heenan, but to each his own I guess. I certainly didn't find WWF work that funny. And for those who criticize Bobby for not focusing on the match, watch Royal Rumble 92. He could focus on the match when he wanted to, but it just didn't suit his personality or character

For me, Heenan. I like both, but I thought Heenan was better on the mic and a lot funnier. I did not see a lot of NWA in the 80s, so I missed Cornette's prime. Cornette's WWF run was far from stellar, although one could argue it was because of the talent he was given to work with. His WWF peak was during Yokozuna's monster heel push in 93, drew good heat and helped Luger get over. . He helped Vader initially get over as a monster, before being humiliated by Jose Lothario. Camp Cornette was OK, but I don't think the fans bought them as a huge threat Heenan was great. Helped draw big heat for Hogan/Orndorff, Hogan/Andre, Andre/Studd. Helped Rick Rude and Hennig get over as heels. Just tremendous in getting over Flair in 92. And the best color man in wrestling history, just hilarious. He made watching wrestling fun.

I always thought the Shawn/Bulldog Diana angle from 96 was a very lame reason for a world title feud. Davey Boy got it squashed before it really even started, so that month of build was rendered pointless. Bret/Jean Pierre Liefette feud in 95 over Bret's leather jacket. The Bulldogs/Islanders feud in 88 over the Matilda kidnapping. Heenan made it somewhat watchable, if it was anyone else other than him, it would have gone down as one the worst angles ever. Bad News Brown's sewer rats vs Jake's Snake from Summerslam 1990. Brian Christopher and the Blue Meanie had a very brief feud on Shotgun/Jakked/Metal over who was the better dancer

any idea why MSG House Shows stopped airing live on the MSG network? I loved watching them as a kid.

but wasn't Cornette fired right after that Raw aired? Supposedly that was the "last straw" for Vince. Wasn't Cornette the main booker along with Vince for most of 96, into 97? He may not have been head booker, but he was the guy with the most clout. I also believe Jake Roberts was on the booking team at the same time.

Deep down I really don't think they mean harm or anything by doing this. It's just that the McMahons see everything through a business perspective. Vince's life IS the wrestling business. I honestly don't believe they know they are being insensitive when they do things like this. It's not an excuse, just an observation.

What led to Jim Cornette being fired as head booker for WWF in 97? I've always heard it was for the disastrous "South Africa" Raw. Anything else? What led to Russo getting the job?, as he had no previous experience writing wrestling I've also heard Shane McMahon was involved and got in Vince's ear about firing Cornette and hiring Russo.

On the Cosby Show, Cliff was always interrupted when trying to eat his abnormally large submarine sandwich. On Family Ties, Alex showing he actually does have compassion. By the next episode, I guess we were supposed to forget this, as he was back to being heartless On Head of Class, the kids always questioning Howard Hessman's teaching style, only to learn he was "teaching them a lesson in life" in the end

Survivor Series 94, Luger has enough strength to small package Tatanka, but Bundy quickly comes in and splashes him before he can take a breather and recover. It happened so quick and looked flawless. Which was very suprising given the workers in the ring.

All that build for that payoff? UGH They didn't even try to make it dramatic

complete spoilers are up at PWI

I think she's there for the whole Teddy/Board of Directors/Carlito angle

they're already hyping next week's show due to sweeps. Didn't work last year as ratings actually went down with all the announced matches

could Mike Piazza have a bounce back season?

crowd boos mention of Smackdown

it's amazing that Jim Cornette has been employed by Vince McMahon for 12 years considering they are at TOTAL opposite ends of the spectrum on what wrestling is supposed to be. I can't believe the relationship has lasted this long. Cornette and WWF just didn't seem to mix, but he's lasted for well over a decade, and Heyman can't last a long weekend.

So this was the "earth-shattering" news surrounding the Lakers over the weekend that would "skyrocket them into the playoffs"

That's not really a strange reaction though. There are tonnes of people (me included) who would love a Steph playboy spread. oh yeah, Steph still looked good at that point, it's just that she got a bigger pop than Torrie. 99-early 2003 Steph is off the charts hot.