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I'd rather see JBL in the ring than Batista. To this point (within the last few months), Batista has been protected extremely well in regards to in-ring work.

Orton will take out Batista after Batista cleans out Benoit and Jericho, and then maybe Edge.

Does there even need to be an actual fantasy folder? Couldn't you, like, just make one up with your imagination?

The problem is this... Batista is over mainly in relation to HHH. By that I mean, fans want to see Batista kick HHH's ass. So what happens after he feuds with HHH and he's champ? He's not a sympathetic character, and he gets over on being big and strong. So does he do the Goldberg thing and squash a bunch of guys, or does he do the Diesel thing and feud with Mable? Both don't really benefit anyone, so he'd be a limited champion.

I think he's more like the Diesel to HHH's Shawn Michaels.

I wonder if Stuffie will be there.

I know. I know. I know.

You can find a lot of them on bearshare (file sharing service)

Apparently, you didn't read the thread. Which, funnily, is the theme of this thread.

Garner looks so weird. Hot weird. But still weird.

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!???!!!!!!!!!!

Somewhere beyond the sea My love's waiting for me, My lover stands on golden sands, And watches the ships that go sailing. Somewhere beyond the sea She's there watching for me, If I could fly like birds on high Then straight to her arms I'd go sailing. It's far beyond a star, It's near beyond the moon. And beyond a doubt My heart will lead me there soon. We'll meet beyond the shore, We'll kiss just as before, Happy we'll be beyond the sea, And never again I'll go sailing.

SAWYERGUARD!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whoever decided to have Kate go swimming deserves a medal.

I am not so sad that Gus and Hera are gone, only because they were hinting at Kendra being gone and I like her boobies. Gus'? Not so much. So long~! Jonathan the Douche is GOD. Not only does he demoralize his wife by saying "you can't do it" and calling her a dramaqueen, but he tops it all off by saying "I thought you LIKED FOOD!". God, I say.

Benoit went from being 1 of 2 guys to have the title (he and Edge), 1 of 3 guys to dispute it (w. HHH), to the LAST of 6 likely to win the belt. Think about it. Benoit faced Tomko on Heat I believe. Win or Lose, that's a hit.

HHH will have to go face eventually -I imagine he wasn't too satisfied with his last face run- and I didn't say it was a good thing, I said it was a good thing for Orton.

I know that Batista moved into Benoit's spot. I just don't consider it a bad thing. Benoit was in the main event scene so much last year that there isn't that many place they can go with him anymore (Jericho is a face, Edge won't take Triple H's #1 heel spot this soon in the year, Orton, Trips, and HBK have been done). I question Benoits place in the "main event scene". He wasn't made a superstar like Rock or Austin where he can afford to move around and still be able to go up the card. They can very easily put Benoit down in the IC division like they did with Jericho and leave him there and he'll die there. They can go other places with Benoit, it just takes more creativity than "let's turn him heel"/"Let's put him on Smackdown"/"Lets forget about it". By pushing Batista into Benoit's top babyface spot (maybe #2 depending on Orton) they have more storyline and match possiblities available to them. Never said that wasn't the case. This thread is about the match hurting Benoit, which it did.

Why cant it be a case of the fact that you learn with experience. If hes submitted to the crossface so many times, surely you find a way to counter it. I think this actually does make logical sense, and should have been up-played more, along with the fact that HHH has yet to recently beat Benoit in 1-on-1 competition. I dunno, why can't it be a case of the fact you learn with experience? You ask the WWE that because they're the ones booking, THEY presented it as "Bah Gawd Batista is so STRONG!" and ignored their previous encounters, so it isn't the case. Just don't ask me why.

Hes needs that monster run with the title and I am putting money on him beating Flairs record. I joke. I think the damage of being a HHH bitch is permanent unfortunately, look at Jericho. I would hate to see him grovel to HHH as Jericho did to Stephanie. The end-result of Orton in Evolution would be Orton usurp HHH's position as leader and HHH goes face. At the start Orton has to pay his dues in Evolution; he doesn't want to do any of it, he hates HHH, but he needs to get back on track and Evolution put him on track. He "sells out". HHH's pseudo-torture puts Orton over the edge and creates a heel even greater than he. I think that could work for Orton. Id hardly say that youngest champ in WWE history has peaked. What else is there to do? He still has 8 (+) years in the WWE, you have to spread that out. Right now Orton is the "present". Personally, I wouldn't bank on him being what saves the WWE but whatever.

90% of the fans will forget about this match in two weeks, maybe by next week depending on the reaction to the elimination chamber. Of course. If Batista continues on with Evolution then his face status becomes next to nil. That's not the context of the original post. It did help Batista, but I don't think Benoit will have a problem keeping the crowd on his side and being looked at as a contender for the title. If you've been reading my responses in this thread, you would have gotten this. I'll say it again. Benoit drops down a spot, so whether or not the fans "remember it" won't matter because the _result_ of it is Batista moves up over Benoit. Which will be felt 2 weeks, 3 weeks, 4 weeks from now. Benoit is the _least_ likely guy to win the Elimination Chamber, going by RAW. It wasn't a squash for Batista anyways. Either guy could have won, and Benoit has beaten Batista before. If Batista beats Benoit again cleanly next week and the week after that, then you guys will have valid complaints. You don't get it.

You stupid shits. Batista did not pin Benoit clean. He pinned him shortly after ramming his head 3 times into the exposed metal part of the turnbuckle. I didn't say Batista pinned Benoit clean. I said he pinned him with his back on the mat. The part which got focus was Batista picking Benoit up from the crossface, not the turnbuckle spot. Ross didn't go on about "That damn Batista using the exposed steel", it was more like "That monster Batista's power is amazing!" The loss made logical sense. Benoit beat Batista clean earlier last year, not to mention all of those tag team victories over him and mostly Flair. Actually, the loss didn't make any "logical sense", as Benoit defeated Batista countless times and yet now Batista bests him. Why? NOTHING has changed other than they are pushing Batista now. Batista didn't "learn", he didn't train specifically to counter the crossface, he hasn't been working out more, he didn't eat any magic beans, there is no reason other than law of averages. And it wasn't presented as that.

Hes thus taken 2 steps back. Going back to Evolution is 5 steps back, youve killed the guy before hes even begining to touch his prime. Set him back a year, tops. You mentioned before he's a young guy, he can afford it. Infact, he needs it because he achieved too much too soon it would actually prolong his career and not burn him out. The only way that angle would work is if hes made, and this will happen, HHH's bitch. Yep. Thus putting more heat on him for being a pussy. Your also prolonging Evolution by another 2 years that way, and Randy want be able to even sniff at a singles belt before then. Evolution will be there as long as Ric Flair is still wrestling and HHH wants to be around him. Might as well send him back to OVW. If it would help his promos and moves, sure. But there's still a heel angle they could do with him and the RAW side needs another heel. But at the moment, a Benoit face isnt doing anything for me either. He is not bulletproof, he is highly respeceted, theirs a difference. HBK, Foley, The Rock, UT, Austin and HHH are bulletproof, everybody else such as Jericho, Booker, RVD, Eddy and Benoit are respected. I'll kill two birds with one stone here. Have Benoit go away for 3-6 months for X reason. Get grizzled like a motherfucker. Full-out lumberjack beard goin on, frizzled hair, etc. Have a wrestler for Y reason try to "find" Benoit and bring him back. The details are important but I'm lazy right now and don't care enough to go into them. I just like the idea of exhiled Benoit w/ beard. Why ugh? Is there anybody else? It was such a cliched response. Orton has already been champ, how is he the "future" when he already peaked?

Odd. I want to see Benoit off TV for 3-6 months, for entirely different reasons.

He did, I must admit, but your suggesting he should go back to Evolution with his head between his legs. That would kill him. *nod* Consider it a rebirth. He can afford it, and he needs it. He's getting Jeff Hardy and Edge heat right now, where it's mostly women who cheer him and the guys don't see him as cool anymore. That's death. The women will cheer him no matter what, cause they cheer him because they're attracted to him, but 80-90% of the audience isn't strongly supporting him. Go back to being a heel, develop the character some more, start again. The kids only 24. He bumps his ass off. Look at the way he took a Benoit suplex at SummerSlam. It looks at it should do. Bloody painful. All the more reason why he should be a heel. He had the most interest in him as a heel. He has a good moveset. The RKO, modified backbreaker, the DDT from the top rope with that sick expression on his face, the cross body, the dropkick, plus countless other moves I cant remember cause its late. His moves suck. I am and have never been anti-Randy, but his moves suck. The RKO is over big, but thats about it. The 3.0 backbreaker got NOTHING last night. He can cut a decent promo and can tell a good story whilst hes in the ring with a seasoned wrestler. Whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA. His face promos suck. Hes the future of the WWE with Cena and Banjamin. Ugh.