RavishingRickRudo

Dude, your obsession with lists is getting out of hand. Plus, "I was made to love you" smokes your ass.

1. "Da Band" is like the worst name ever. 2. They weren't just "new artists"; THEY HAD THEIR OWN TV SHOW TO PROMOTE THEIR ALBUM!!!!!!! With that in mind, anything under 1 mil. should be considered a disappointment. Like Mole said _O-town_ outsold them. "Rap" is a more popular sound now then Boy Bands were back in 01, (or at least "hotter", as that style of pop was fading fast in 2001) so you can't really say "Da Band" was at the disadvantage. Fact is, they didn't click with the market.

I need to see the feet and tail. It's really the whole thing and how she wears it that makes it hot... ...

The avatar is good... ... but I think we need to see a full body shot of Bunnyanka. And by that I mean... ... Me. BOING~!

If we were to work from the notion that Lindsay was behind bringing back Spike, can we work from the assumption that Lindsay was behind giving the amulet to Angel? Lindsay wanted Angel out of the picture, knew that the First Evil was causin trouble, saw an opportunity. Angel unexpectedly gave it up to Spike, plan screwed. However, a new opportunity was there so Lindsay found the amulet (and since he was the one who first had it - under this theory - he should be able to find it whereever) and brought back Spike to annoy and distract Angel. He set them both up to fight over the cup hoping that Spike would kill Angel. That plan failed, but it was never his big plan - just a bonus. Since he and Eve were in cohoots and if Eve was working for the Senior Partners before Angel was in charge (aka 5.1), it is feasible that Lindsay got the amulet and got it into WR&H. This does dumb down the effect of Spike saving the world through the use of the amulet, however, Buffys finale wasn't about Spike; it was about Buffy, and her no longer having the pressure of saving the world every day.

I gotta say... .... Anya in the Bunny suit got me hot. Fo Real. BOING~!

What was the original point here ???? Oh yeah, Nina von Nipples... Let's make with some pics

I heard about it. And my ear is nowhere near the ground in terms of Hollywood. I think ID4-2 should have been made from the Aliens perspective where they are just trying to save their race and wanted friendship from those evil earthlings... cept they are portrayed as humans with Bill Pullman, Will Smith, the stuttering guy, and Harry Connick Jr., Randy Quaid, in important alien power positions.

Yeah... or that. *feels inadequate* *builds skyscraper*

He didn't. However, when he was trying to become Angelus he went through a process where imagined a moment of happiness - which was banging the Cord.

For Mole, Doncha think thats a bit spoilerish? I mean, the shot is without Wes and Lorne so it may lead people to think "hey, where is Wes and Lorne."..." didn't they say someone would die?"

She's clearly nuts. Clearly.

Izzy the Devil is the motherfucking Clem of Angel. FUCK THEM for not expanding his role in more episodes.

He doesn't love Nina, he just wants to show the Senior Partners that he fucks around now with someone he "cares" about - that he's more wreckless.

Aaaand Wes talking about forgiveness and change and how Angel would do the same for any one of them was awesome, cause he's the only one who remembers stealing Connor.

1. Hamilton rules. His convo with "Dro" and the implication that he is "really old" rules. Plus, he beat the SHIT out of Illyria. That was some Grade-A ass whoppin right there. And the end with him just looking into the room was fucking awesome. Goddammit, Gunn, Illyria, Harmony and Hamilton all competing for top spot on the Players list. Oh yes, there WILL be a players list at the end of this season~. 2.“It’s pointless. And annoys me. And yet I am compelled to play on.” = my new sig. Watch for it. 3. Mole, I know you mean "3 part arc" in a different way, but this episode gave validation to ALL the episodes thus far in Season 5 AND the Season 4 finale. I can't wait to see this all over again either on DVD or in reruns or through downloading - cause this shit goes DEEP! I mean, one of my favourite moments of this year even had relevance; in 5.1, Angel getting all happy about choosing from his selection of cars, showed how much he enjoyed the power given to him. It built up from the perks and, conceivably, into the power-hungry fiend he portrayed himself as tonight. PLUS, I love how they put in a lot of the 'villains' from the earlier episodes into the COTBT. 4. When I read the Cordy Kiss deal in the spoilers I melted... so hot. SO HOT. Great stuff. 5. The Fred/Connor thing was beautiful. How the two innocents harmed by fate had their downfall, and how Angel can't let that happen anymore. He has to do _something_. 6. The Circle of the Black Thorn (and the Senior Partners) wanting Angel in makes perfect sense, since it has been WR&H's objective to get Angel on their side from the very beginning. The more I think about it, the better this episode is. 7. I wasn't digging this episode right away and alot of that was because I had read the spoilers, however, when Spike basically said "bring it on", I was feeling it. Angels voice sounded funny when giving that speech, though. 8. Mmmm Nina. A lot less nipplage, but she looked DAMN good in that nightie. That certainly wasn't a stake 9. Drogyn and Fred playing Xbox was sooooo fucking cool. Shit, now I want a Drogyn mini series! DAMN! 10. Did anyone else get the Hillary Clinton vibe from the Senator?? That was intentional, right??

http://www.versaphile.com/download/firefly.html WHOOOO HOOO!!! You know how on the DVD they had a 3 minute gag reel; which was cut down from a much longer one? Well... here is the much longer one! The scene from "The Message" had me crying. Nathan Fillion is god. You can DL full episodes as well.

Posters who go "Whooosh" and "OMGLOL2075~!" - both are retarded, even if they are meant to be, they are still refuckingtarded. But no disrespect to Ripper, my second pet peeve is the lack of Ripper-love on this board.

I don't understand dissing Angel Season 5 and then hyping a Buffy Season 6 DVD; especially when using the term "very weak"... incorrectly, might I add

Welcome to Hippyville, Population: You. Phew, at least I didn't say plant a flower.

Wait... if Dames is back... who was it that took his place and said we could freely post pictures of spiders because he no longer had a pussy-ass fear of them? ... *removes pictures* ... DAMSIE!!! ...Hurry-up and buy the Firefly box set; my baby is DYING! It needs more CONTENT!

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"Not Fade Away" is in reference to: Illyria says _______ is "fading away" ie: dying. She can sense when someones life is ending.

Hmm.... this might be relevant. I don't quite remember what it was for (me thinks a presentation), but this was from OAC English. Two books significantly changed the way I looked at this, "The Road Less Traveled" was one of them... The Road Less Traveled by M. Scott Peck LOVE: How Peck fares in light of other experts. “Most of us continue to behave as though love is not learned but lies dormant in each human being and simply awaits some mystical age of awareness to emerge in full bloom” - Leo Buscaglia This statement rejects the stereotype furthest most by Hollywood that ‘love at first sight’ is true love. It discards the notion that love is easy, and states that it is something that is learned and developed, and worked on over time. In Romantic films, ‘true’ love can be summed up in under 2 hrs. There may be perhaps one difficulty within the relationship between the two characters, but at the end everything is all peachy and they stay in love forever and ever and ever. This is the belief that most people have in regards to the whole love subject. That the right person is just waiting to be found and when that person shows up Eternal Love is too. When that one person shows up, the person that is ‘meant’ for him or her, they are set for life, never to be lonely again. Essentially, people conceive that there is a ‘perfect’ person for them. Peck disagrees. “The Myth of Romantic Love is a dreadful lie.” Love takes work: “Love is the extension of ones self for the purpose of nurturing one’s own or another’s spiritual growth.” “The Act of extending ones limits implies effort. One extends ones limits only by exceeding them, and exceeding limits requires effort” “Love is not effortless; it is effortful.” “‘Falling in Love’ is the most powerful and pervasive is the belief that falling in love is love, or at least are of the manifestations of love.” “The experience of falling in love is invariably temporary” “To fall in love is to fall out of love” “It is lonely behind these boundaries. We learn to escape from behind these walls of our individual identities to a condition in which we can be more unified with the word outside ourselves. The feeling of falling in love allows us that escape - temporarily” “As our ego boundaries become blurred and thinned, we giving more and more to experience the same sort of feeling of ecstasy that we have when our ego boundaries partially collapse and we falling love.” “Instead of having merged temporarily and unrealistically with a single object, we have merged realistically and more permanently with much of the world.” “The feeling of ecstasy or bliss associated with this union, which perhaps, more gentle and less dramatic than that associated with falling in love, is nonetheless much more stable and lasting and ultimately satisfying.” “Mysticism is essentially the belief that reality is oneness” “True reality can be known only by experiencing the oneness through a giving up of ego boundaries” “It is impossible to see the unity of the universe as long as one continues to see oneself as a discreet object, separate and distinguishable from the rest of the universe” “Sex, falling in love, drugs provide a glimpse of Nirvana, but not Nirvana itself.” “Can only be found through the persistent exercise of real love.” “The experience may capture us at times when we are definitely not seeking it, when it is inconvenient and undesirable.” Opposites attract: “ You may not even like or admire the object of your passion.” “Couples must learn that true love can grow through true understanding/acceptance of their own and each others individuality and separateness is the only foundation upon which a mature marriage can be based and real love can grow.” “We must be attracted toward, invested in , and committed to an object outside of ourselves, beyond the boundaries of self” <- Cathexis - The act of extending ego boundaries “By this incorporation, ones self has become enlarges and ones ego boundaries extended” A sudden collapse of a section of an individuals ego boundaries, permitting one to merge his or her identity with that of another persons ...Stops being lonely. In some respects, the act of falling in love is an act of regression. -Echoes back to merging with our mothers in infancy. - Re-experience the sense of omnipotence which we had given up - All problems will be over come because of love “Sooner or later in response to the problems of daily living, the individual will reassert itself (and conflicts arise) “Therefore they will realize that they are not one” One by one, gradually, or suddenly, the ego boundaries snap back into place - fall out of love - become lonely again The more and longer we extend ourselves, the more we love, the more blurred becomes the distinction between self and the world. When we are infants we have no concept of self or individuality. In essence, we are ‘one with the universe. When we become older, we realize that we are indeed separate entities and that we can not truly control everything around us (realizing this fact, we become very angry and try to force our will upon other objects ie ‘Terrible Twos“. As we grow into adults we fully accept this fact, however, we do long for the power associate with the omnipotence that we once had as children. We form our Ego Boundaries as a solution to this loss, our own securities. When we ’fall in love’, we have the feeling that ’everything is going to be great, love can solve any problems in our way’. We regress back to the state of an infant. Sooner or later, through lifes problems, we will realize that the ‘perfect guy/gal’ isn’t perfect at all. From there we make the decision of a) leaving said imperfect person in wait of that one true love or b) Staying with said person, even if they aren’t perfect cause you want to make it ‘work’. Hence, love is learned.

Man, I am reading the full summary for the last episode, and I swear... 1. I got tears swelling up in my eyes reading the Wes/Illyria scene. That could be an all-time best moment. 2. This could quite possibly be the best episode ever.