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BPS, you're minimizing Illyrias impact on the show. You say she is "just" a plot device for Wesley, then why does she do more than that?

The Trio were a mere inconvenience to the gang, while the real "villians" were "themselves" (groan!). They were fucking flys buzzing around buffy's head; the only time they had value, and really it was just Warren, was the aforementioned gun incident. They weren't a threat at all.

A plot device affects plot, not theme or characters. She did more than just change the shows direction, she changed the way the characters acted (specifically Wes), and she reflected the theme the show was building. The word "just" minimalizes her importance, and its comparison to Anya/Andrew _does_ make it a bad thing.

Really? WOW! I really wanted to know that! THANKS! Cause I have never seen Rocky 4 before! It's not like what I said was spinning the obvious "it looks like the black guy is sucking on Rockys Cock" into something else! I REALLY wanted to know that!

Is there something wrong with that? Amy Ackers performance as Illyria has been nothing short of spectacular - she has created an entirely different entity with no traces of Fred. Her interactions with each character - specifically Wes - has been valuable and she has been involved in some major plot points aside from Fred dying. Not-to-mention she represents a side of the theme that tends not to be explored; the other side of fate. She, just as much as Fred, was a victim of fates hand. So she didn't "just" become a plot device for a minor characters story-arc.

Yeah, totally.. .. why is Apollo Creeds trainer holding Rocky up?!

Kind of how Anya's death just became a plot device for Andrew's story arc. Um, Illyria is a little bit more than that. They've been fleshing this out for the past few (4? 5?) episodes, and considering that they've spent well over 2 Season developing the Fred/Wes relationship just to kill it so quickly, I think all the tormet has been paying off in spades.

I like Big, Powerful, Ass-Whoopin, Near-Impossible-To-Defeat Villains. Ie. Glory, THE BEAST. The Three Nerds brought nothing to the table other than pent-up homosexual urges, high voices, and aspirations of megalomania. And while that was funny, it does not a good villain make. And coming off the WONDERFUL Glory and how the whole team had to band together to overcome the odds, this seemed so... limp. And it isn't great. Season 5 is great. Season 5 was something; it was the apex of the entire series where they were at the top of their form in terms of character development, storytelling, and theme. Season 6 just tried to rip that apart; it couldn't bother to create its own legacy. Willows addiction was fucking LAME. L-A-M-E. And totally transparent in its metaphor for drug abuse. I like my allagories a little more subtle, thank you. Thank god she didn't endanger one of her young friends, or hurt a loved one, or get strung out and become careless - oh wait. LAME~! Add to all this that it was Allison Hannigan, who I want to stab in the face with a fork 90% of the time she's on screen, and you got yourself one not-great story. Anya and Xander were annoying. The whole season was annoying - like nails on a chalk board... cept really, really, slow. Xander leaves Anya at the alter, Anya gets really mad and never ever ever ever never ever ever ever forgives him, so Xander is all mopey. Then Xander gets mad at Anya, so he doesn't feel so bad anymore (but he really still does~!), and it all fucking sucks. Yep, after Season 5 the writers said "uh... what do we do now" and there you have it, "let's just fuck em all up!". BRILLIANT~! And don't compare it to Season 4 Angel, which was being built from Season 2. Season 4 Angel had its faults, but it didn't purposely try to fuck the show up to create ~tension~. And making a character purposely annoying is not a good idea, and doesn't stop that character from being annoying. SMASHED? WRECKED? You've GOT to be kidding me. God Willow fucking SUCKS. Bargaining was just "good", and -I'd say- a pretty poor return for Buffy after "The Gift". I wouldn't exactly call it a B+ episode. Hell's Bells I'd barely call "good" - it wasn't a "bad" episode, but it seemed like a bit of a cop out to breaking up Xander and Anya. The only thing you have here is "Once more with Feeling" whose novelty wears down after a while and the Dark Willow episodes, which I admit were very good. However, you still have trash like Doublemeat Palace and Normal Again, which are big negatives, along with a bunch of forgettable episodes. Can you say with a straight face that all the episodes you listed were "excellent" or "great", because you're hiding behing a rather ambiguous B+.

What part of this aren't you guys getting?

Basically, it broke down everything established in Season 5 - my favourite season. Plus they had drunk-with-maJiK Willow, and I was never a fan of witchy willow, so you can imagine how annoyed I was when she got a lot of the focus that season. Buffy - the hero - was becoming unglued, and I -as a codependant viewer- needs to cheer on someone strong. Xander and Anya, a couple which RULED in season 5, broke up and Anya got less fun and more whiney. Spike wasn't nearly as good as he was in Season 5, and Dawn just plain sucked. Tara wasn't even approaching how good she was before (Season 5 was a peak season for her and one of the best acting jobs -imo- in the shows entire run) and they (spoiler)killed her off(spoiler). The troika were fun but shit, they posed no threat during any of the season, PLUS, it lacked the strung-togetherness that Season 5 had. On top of all that, the singular episode quality wasn't close to being as good as Season 5 or even Season 4... and HELLO, Buffy going insane??? Shit, they fucking stole that from DS9.

I await the ritualistic blood sacrifice from Paula, Randy, and Simon for their personal lord and savior Fantiasia for the next show. Seriously, I really like Fantasia, but they've gone drunk with praise for her. "Yo yo yo, she-dawg, that was hype! Yo, that was da bomb. Ya hurd? Yo, I'd give my left nut to hear that again. Seriously, gimmie a knife and get the music ready." "Fantasia. One word. If you aren't voted the American Idol, I will kill Randy. I'm serious. I will kill Randy if she doesn't win ("Yo, she's serious, and I'd let her y all!) You hear that America? I have the gun in my hand right now and I will do it!" "Fantasia, you are the reason I wake up in the morning. You are the sunshine, you are the air, you are the sky. I don't deserve to be in your shadow, and I sure-as-hell don't deserve to be in your light. I... I don't know how I'd go on living without you, or your voice... life is meaningless - I know that now. As you, YOU Fantasia, make me feel like a bad humanbeing. I feel bad in knowing that I am not a nearly the person you are, and that my breathing the same air as you is stealing from you. That the exhaust that comes from my car hurts the environment and could possibly damage you. That right now, what I'm saying, is taking away from the time that you could use to sing and ease all of Americas pains... I cannot go on living with that knowledge. Good bye, I'm going to shoot myself with Paulas gun, and I hope everyone does the same."

Listen, Season Sucks sucked. Hence the name. I wish I could change the name, but I can't. So there you go. Now we all just have to deal with it and hope that -in time- the wounds from such a bad season will heal... perhaps with zany, drunk-with-maJiK, Willow witch power.

I think Dana will just keep putting Miletich guys in the ring in hopes that they will all be champs; cause it's not like they'd be going anywhere.

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There are no suitable words in any language that describes my hate for you, Anyanka. So I have to make one up. An entire language. Along with culture, customs, and a few religions. Just so this word can accurately and effectively portray my true feelings toward you. ... this may take a while. *off to create society* *tries* *gets bored after a few seconds* Ah fuck it. You suck. Ass. ASS! It's like the worst thing you could possibly suck. Yeah, you just got rudOWNED. Now dismiss Season 6 as the shittiest of all seasons and proclaim Illyria as one of the greatest characters ever created and ABUZULLION times better than anything that came out of that horrendous, disasterous, ass-backwards, deserving-of-infinite-ridicule, and, quite frankly, ASS SUCKINGLY BAD season known as Season 6... or as RRR calls it, Season Sucks (ass).

YOU DO NOT SPEAK THAT WAY OF ILYRIA!!!!!!

I can see the point Zuffa has, because if their champions lose outside their organization, then they'd look bad... but.. YOU ONLY HAVE 1 FUCKING CHAMPION LEFT YOU DUMB FUCKS! And people don't even see him as the true champ. Jesus fucking christ.

Ok, so I was flipping through the channels and I see 24 on. More specifically, I see Gina Torres on (lookin DAMN fine) and DB Woodside, and it appeared that they had some sort of relationship and since I like the Joss Whedon shows and since they both had big roles in his shows I said "hey, I should -by all rights- like 24 and here are two actors that I have really enjoyed on these other shows, so I think tonight is the night I give it a try" and I was really liking the show. Then they kill off Gina Torres (looking DAMN fine). WHAT THE FUCK?~! I dunno if I can watch another episode now...

You made so much sense that it is freaking me out, Brian. Good fucking call.

You're not suggesting that Jennifer Beals or Jennifer Gray play his wife... are you??

TJ's wife should have been murdered by an underling, whom TJ kills in his debut episode... but then gets a taste of the power and works his wa up the system in hopes of bringing it down.

Booooooo

I'm up for Troy TJ Jansen

How about Leonardo Caprice? Or "Leo C"

Does it matter? He's a rogue cop, he has to have "TJ" in his name... *lauches Super Special Mega Beam R.U.D.O. Attack* *105 pnt damage*