NoCalMike

Well unless "conspiracy theories" are true nowadays? Just give it up already Mike. Pointing at anything you don't agree with that suggests George W. Bush isn't quite Clark Kent by Day and Superman by Night, and screaming, "conspiracy" at it, isn't an ample defense or debunking.

The only thing putting me in a heavy sweat is fear of your crushing grasp of inane conspiracy theories. Honestly. -=Mike What we've learned from Mike today: No matter how convincing or accurate a source may be, if it dosen't agree with him, it's a conspiracy theory. Thanks Mike! May your new buzzwords run rampant on this board. What exactly is the source here? He listed the members of PNAC, their backgrounds, and their official statements. Everyone knows this stuff, in fact, the members are proud of it. The conspiracy theory stuff is just baseless fear-mongering. It's essentially a blue print for further war mongering and imperialistic tendencies. But hey, if you think war and hegemony are cool , then by no means is there anything wrong with that. I don't like PNAC or their policies one bit. But don't pretend they are some sort of conspiracy when their entire mission statement is wide out in the open for all to see, and their members revel in it; you make it sound like they lurk in the shadows. no one said it was a "conspiracy" except for Mike(SC). I think the main point, which is supported more and more as the days go by, is that the Iraq war was planned well before 9/11.

Wow a christian, sounding Christian........there is hope afterall..... this rounds on me SP

The only thing putting me in a heavy sweat is fear of your crushing grasp of inane conspiracy theories. Honestly. -=Mike What we've learned from Mike today: No matter how convincing or accurate a source may be, if it dosen't agree with him, it's a conspiracy theory. Thanks Mike! May your new buzzwords run rampant on this board. What exactly is the source here? He listed the members of PNAC, their backgrounds, and their official statements. Everyone knows this stuff, in fact, the members are proud of it. The conspiracy theory stuff is just baseless fear-mongering. It's essentially a blue print for further war mongering and imperialistic tendencies. But hey, if you think war and hegemony are cool , then by no means is there anything wrong with that. did you get my PM, btw?

The only thing putting me in a heavy sweat is fear of your crushing grasp of inane conspiracy theories. Honestly. -=Mike What we've learned from Mike today: No matter how convincing or accurate a source may be, if it dosen't agree with him, it's a conspiracy theory. Thanks Mike! May your new buzzwords run rampant on this board. What exactly is the source here? He listed the members of PNAC, their backgrounds, and their official statements. Everyone knows this stuff, in fact, the members are proud of it. The conspiracy theory stuff is just baseless fear-mongering. he gave the link in the original post, just click on it.

Because a Middle Eastern country developing a nuke is BEYOND the pale of rational thought. Well, of course not, but that country would be IRAN. So I guess we invaded the wrong country. Nope. We had EVERY reason to suspect that Saddam had WMD --- seeing as how he worked rather hard to keep that image alive and well so he could hold power. And, lord, if we went into Iran and the intel ended up being wrong, you'd happily lead the brigade bitching about THAT, too. -=Mike and rightfully so. It is not like going to war should be an, "oops, we'll try harder next time" kind of mistake. Soldiers are dead, civilians are dead, terrorists are dead(well that one at least makes everyone happy). I am waiting for Bush to announce the "Absolutely True Intel Cabinet" for all future intelligence gathering.

And that he could smoke pot WHILE using a ventilator has a weird stink to it. Which, shockingly enough, does not exactly explain how somebody on a ventilator CAN BE SMOKING POT. Quite frankly, if you smoke while on a ventilator and die --- look in the mirror, you fucking moron. This is me REALLY not caring. The fucker did something fucking stupid and fucking died from it. You on a ventilator? DON'T FUCKING SMOKE, ASSHOLE. -=Mike I am not sure what you are getting at. He wasn't smoking AT THE TIME OF DEATH. He didn't die from smoking. How about we demand our judges be able to use common sense?

Because a Middle Eastern country developing a nuke is BEYOND the pale of rational thought. Well, of course not, but that country would be IRAN. So I guess we invaded the wrong country.

irrelevant? Well that is your opinion. bullshit? That is one thing it certainly isn't. Fear over PNAC is the single most moronic thing you can feel. But, it is your decision to feel it. -=Mike once again, no one is FEARING it, just simply stating that PNAC is in effect, the Iraq War was a major step in accomplishing it, and people aware of it, were talking about it as soon as Bush was elected, as well as how we would end up in another middle eastern conflict, wasn't too hard to figure out. And hold on to that conspiracy theory. I'd be too humiliated to admit giving the conspiracy any serious consideration, but hey, you go where few others are willing to tread. -=Mike that means a lot coming from Mr. "OMG READ THIS STORY......THIS IS SCARY(IF IT IS TRUE"

no shit, because they knew america had major interests and things to gain by taking down Saddam/Iraq. Monitary of course, but those are considered interests. Of course there was absolutely no reason at all for Clinton to invade Iraq, just like there was no reason for Bush to either, however if you watched both debates so far, I think it is safe to say, it isn't Bush giving the orders.

irrelevant? Well that is your opinion. bullshit? That is one thing it certainly isn't. Fear over PNAC is the single most moronic thing you can feel. But, it is your decision to feel it. -=Mike once again, no one is FEARING it, just simply stating that PNAC is in effect, the Iraq War was a major step in accomplishing it, and people aware of it, were talking about it as soon as Bush was elected, as well as how we would end up in another middle eastern conflict, wasn't too hard to figure out.

I think Bush claiming this situation could end in a mushroom cloud, pretty much took care of his credibility a long time ago on this matter.

So am I supposed to be afraid of the Project for the New American Century and the Neo-Con agenda? This is all innuendo and wink wink conspiracy that MoveOn.org just creams their panties over. This is all very swell and laid out nicely but WHY AM I SUPPOSED TO START SHITTING MYSELF IN TERROR? Better to be a pawn to Western Democracy and American capitalism than a slave to a new global USSR or global Muslim tyranny. This was around before MoveOn.org. 1997, I believe. And I never said to start "shitting yourself" over anything. I am just pointing out that it isn't "bullshit" as MikeSC claimed. Plus it basically demonstrates the simple fact that the strike against Iraq was planned out well in advance of Bush getting into the whitehouse.

irrelevant? Well that is your opinion. bullshit? That is one thing it certainly isn't.

Actually, you're getting mocked because not only is your conspiracy theory incredibly cliched, weakly thought out, inane, and ridiculous --- it's something even Kamui would have been too humiliated to post. Why isn't this being taken seriously by people with an IQ above room temperature? Because Santa Claus being real is a more plausible theory. Don't post moronic bullshit and people might actually take you seriously. -=Mike C-Bacon's added in commentary and opinions about PNAC could be viewed as conspiracy theory-run amok, but PNAC itself is absolutely 100% legit.

Did you shoot the bee's nest at the top of the tree next to the bridge? If you do it, one of the guards will run across the bridge and then you can get by them easy. So I am shooting the Bees nest on the side of the bridge that Snake is already on right? Thanks man, I was too eager to cross the bridge to even look around.....lol. My hiatus from video games(sanz sports games) has taken it's toll on me, I have to get back in the mode where you are constantly looking around the enviornment to find useful items.

it is attatched with "Official Playstation Magazine" Says it is the only place you can play MGS 3 before it comes out. Ah, okay. I'm not getting all fired up and excited about MGS3, but how is it so farM (gameplay-wise)? it's the fucking shit man, I swear. Not just fluffing here.

Movie-wise, Star Wars of course, however his sound/light/magic studio production team don't get nearly the credit they deserve for their contributions to various films. I know they composed the entire score for Requiem for a Dream, and that is one of my favorite scores ever.

I am hurt that I didn't get one assigned to me

it is attatched with "Official Playstation Magazine" Says it is the only place you can play MGS 3 before it comes out.

MGS 3 is on it, and I am stuck at the part where you have to use your camoflauge to get across the long ass bridge. I can get right up to the bridge with 90% unseen, but I am not sure how to maneuver into the position where you are hanging off the side and monkey bar sliding across the side......I can do it, but I have to stand up first, which makes me get seen.....unless I just have to time it right when I stand up so everyone's back is to me..... Oh is anyone elses disc like automatically restarting to the main menu after so much time? It seems if you go idle for a minute, it does it. It sucks, I hope it is just not MY DISC and I happened to get a defective one. This is one of the better preview discs, EVER.

that was Part V: A new beginning. Most people hate this one because, it isn't really Jason, just the angry paramedic acting as Jason to get revenge but I think this flick has a LOT of classic moments in it. The trance/techno chick is hilarious, especially her little dance routine in her room before getting wiped out.

this is not new, I have brought up "PNAC"(Project for a new american century) several times on this board, in numerous threads but it always gets NO SOLD. If you go to the official PNAC site, they pretty much write it out in plain english that they would need a modern day pearl harbor, in order to get the ball rolling for their plan. Of course they said that before 9/11, so I am suprised it was left on there for so long afterwards.

The fact that he was even sentenced to jail time is enough alone to question the sanity of the judge, and the fact that he wasn't provided with a machine that you know, kept him breathing, should result in criminal charges. Are you telling me the judge couldn't have reversed his decision upon finding out the jail was not equipped to accomodate a quadriplegic.