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I hope that the player to be named later is Steve Francis. Then he gets waived and signs with the Clippers. Reunites with his BFF and his career is officially over. Francis has pretty much been one sad dude since him and Mobley broke up in 2005.

And I thought this was a newly created thread not something pulled out of the CTDWAT. I must say, I almost fell for the or....... part meaning either it's taped with Raw or CANCELLED.

They've maxed out his use as a heel for the time being, but SD! is already stacked with babyfaces right now (HHH, Undertaker, Jeff Hardy, Kennedy). Is Big Show a heel? No. But wasn't he originally suppose to be? Until Mayweather turned heel that is. Now that I think about it Kennedy should just go back to being a heel. I see no usefulness right now for him to be a face.

Anyone know what's up with Hanley Ramirez? Is he hurt or something? Been really struggling post all-star break.

I would first like to start off with two questions. #1. What exactly is Batista currently at the moment? Face, Heel, or Tweener? #2. Why did Kane turn heel, assuming he is a heel currently. With those questions out of the way, since things aren't as stale as they were before the draft, now that we got a few good weeks in and the lead up to Summerslam starting, who in your books should turn? My picks: Triple H. He's VERY limited as a face on Smackdown. Turn him heel and he's got Taker, Hardy, Kennedy, Big Show. While as a face, he's got Edge who he's done with, Khali, will be done with, and Umaga. Doesn't smell like ratings to me. Plus he's been face for over 2 years, I think his longest face run ever. It time for a turn. CM Punk. With Raw stacked with faces, his promo skills are better suited for a heel. Plus, all the talk of Punk being a great heel makes me want to actually see this. Batista. Since I am not sure at all what he is at the moment, I want him to turn into a monster heel. Since Jericho already turned heel, with Batista and a returning Orton that makes a good three headed heel monster that Cena, Michaels and Mysterio can alternate with. Plus, I'd like to see a Rey vs. Batista feud, it never really happened while they were on Smackdown. Before I typed this I thought there were more guys that I thought needed a turn, but really, the biggest turn that can make a difference for quite a few careers would be a Triple H turn. Your picks?

So what are moments you can remember where a wrestler refused to put over another wrestler? I can only go back as far as the 90's since that's when I started watching wrestling. Here's what I can remember reading through the boards over the years. Hart vs. Hogan Summerslam 1993. The way Wrestlemania 9 ended and the lead up to summerslam was suppose to have this passing of the torch match. Apparently Hogan refused because he believed Bret wasn't on his level. HBK vs. Dean Douglas. In Your House Oct 1995. Apparently heat between the clique and Douglas lead to this result. Leads to another clique member getting the title back the same night anyways. HBK vs. Vader. Summerslam 96 and Survivor Series 96. Michaels throws a hissy fit during Summerslam and doesn't want to job the title to Vader. Same thing at Survivor Series, eventually picks Sid to drop the title. Beside the WHC in 2002 to Triple H and Austin in 98, is this the ONLY other title HBK jobbed to someone? HBK vs. someone, Bret Hart perhaps? Early 1997. The knee injury makes him forfeit the title. Some say he refused to job the title, was suppose to be to Bret or someone else? HBK vs. Bulldog. One Night Only 1997. Apparently, Bulldog was suppose to retain, but HBK changed those plans because he didn't want to do the job. Really buries Bulldog, wife and his sister after the match. Hart vs. Michaels Survivor Series 97. Enough said about this one. Austin vs. Rock late 97. Didn't want to drop the IC title to Rock, felt he was below him. In this instance, he was probably right anyways. This was when Austin was starting to turn Red hot. HBK vs. Austin. While this job did happen, not without incident though. Still the story of Undertaker threatening to harm HBK if he didn't job merits this instance. Plus Shawn was running around telling people he wouldn't do the job. Giant vs. Kevin Nash. Didn't Nash fake a heart attack to get out of a job? Hogan vs. Jarrett. Bash at the Beach 2000. Apparently, he refused to job to Jarrett so that led to Russo buring him after the match. Triple H vs. Booker T. Was going to be the original plan at Wrestlemania 19, but instead changed his mind and decided to drop the title to Goldberg instead. Triple H vs. RVD. Not so sure about this one, but wasn't there talk of HHH droping the title to him in late 2002 but HHH didn't want to job? Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar. Unforgiven 2002. At first, I remember people were pissed when they heard this, seeing how Taker refused to job to a new star and make him. I believe it was true Taker didn't want to job, but it was because he wanted and rightfully did job to Lesnar in a Hell in a cell match on month later. Austin vs. Lesnar. Raw 2002. Austin felt it was stupid to job on free TV and walked out on the company shortly after. That's all I can remember for now, please feel free to add more to the list. Feel free to correct me if some of those ones I remember were wrong. Man, looking back, I just HBK's line about he doesn't lay down for nobody was true after all.

I gotta admit, looking at this thread, I'm glad the WWE did do SOMETHING to shake it up. It's a lot fresher now than it was a few days ago.

I just read this on yahoo: Beasley Article Is this kid really a knucklehead? There are the reports of being a little immature. The Heat don't seem to high on him either. IIs this all exaggeration or is he really not the brightest kid out there. Is comparing him to Carmelo a fair assessment, and that dude has played 5 season and STILL does stupid things.

So everyone talks about this match, especially when Hogan and Austin were on the same roster in 2002. Some even said it should've been Austin vs. Hogan at Wrestlemania 18 instead of The Rock. With that said, there is a little too much history between the two. There were talks over the years about doing this match, but nothing came to be. Apparently, it was suppose to happen when Austin kick started something with his line of finding a can of whoop ass with Hogan's name on in at the 2006 Hall of Fame ceremony. So here are a few questions to discuss. 1. Who should win? You book this match, and you know that both men DO NOT want to job to the other. A double DQ would likely piss off the crowd. There will be no rematches, this is based on Hogan punking Michaels. So one match only, there must be a CLEAN finish. This is pitting one generation of fans vs. another. The 80's vs. the WWF Attitude era. Some say Hogan should win, he was the man that built the WWF from the ground up and put wrestling where it is today. On the other side, Austin, the man who SAVED the WWF from going under. Some claim Austin made more money than Hogan ever did. Others claim that is fiction not fact. With that said, who do you book to go over and HOW do you do it. A simple stunner or leg drop cannot be bought, because these guys kicked out of more dramatic finishers and were booked like supermen. One finisher probably wouldn't be enough. 2. Is this match still a money match? Someome asked Keith on his blog a while ago and he said it is. More so then Austin/Goldberg. With that being said, can this match draw in your eyes? Remember, this isn't 2000 or even the late 90's when Wrestling was on fire. If there is no money, this match will not happen. In fact, there probably has to be A LOT guarenteed to both men for them to even consider the match. 3. Is this a Main Event? Wrestlemania will probably be where this match would, if ever, take place, do you platoon two guys who haven't done nothing in years over the whole damn roster. There will probably be broken egos and pissed off attitudes by some of the guys. Wrestlemania 25 is coming, if there was ever the time to do this match, it's now. 4. Does this intrigue you AT ALL? This isn't either men in their prime or even during the 90's. In today's WWE, do you think the booking would even come through? There is a storyline right there with all the personal stuff, but I don't know how far both guys would go. 5. Would you order the pay per view, JUST for this match? The rest of the card is crap. Would you still order a pay per view, beause this match is on the card. 6. Will they both get desperate enough? We've seen enough Austin/Hogan returns. You think they'll both be desperate enough to do a match and get a big payday? We know Hogan might, with all his legal problems, but Austin is a tougher call.

You can really tell this is a Joey Styles thing. I guess he's taking what he learned from 1wrestling and using it here.

So with Smackdown being stacked, is there ANY CHANCE that it goes back to Thursday next season? Maybe by stacking the rosters, it shows the WWE cares about the show? Then they can go head to head with TNA Impact. Thursday Night Wars?

I personally like the fact that Fletcher is cleaning house. Get rid of that old mentality from the previous regime and rebuild now. Hopefully within a few years they'll have a different attitude on that team and in that locker room. No more babies and their stupid no trade clauses.

Mentioned also in the off season thread but I want to mention it here too: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Am9M...o&type=lgns O'Neal for TJ/Rasho/17 Is pretty damn close.

And it looks like we are near our first trade of the off-season: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Am9M...o&type=lgns So Colangelo turns Charlie V and Matt Bonner into Jermaine O'Neal in 3 seasons. I hope he still has something left in the tank. Wasn't this the same guy the Lakers wanted BAD last year and some thought he value was as high as Bynum? Either the mighty have fallen or the Raptors STOLE him here. Remains to be seen.....

Layla to Raw. I guess that leaves Kelly Kelly as the main ECW star.

One word: PEDIGREE. For a spilt second, I actually thought Carlito would be Triple H free.

Wow, Smackdown is actually looking pretty good. Maybe HASS can go back to Smackdown too. Reunite the World Greatest Tag Team on their home stage of Smackdown.

With this draft, I really feel ECW should bring back the TV title or something. All those guys on the roster are not all fighting for the ECW title so give them something else to fight for. Shelton or Kofi as TV champion would work.

Also, with that being said, I am disappointed they did not mention Jericho's lack of title defense or make a match. I was looking forward to a HBK-Y2J Intercontinetal Title match.

No Jeff Hardy. Also, I don't know why, but if they build him up enough, Kozlov vs. HHH at a throwaway pay per view down the road? I kid, I kid.

I can't wait to see the Smackdown spoilers now. That'll be an interesting read.

I can see now a Cena-Batista feud for Mania 25. Batista will win the title and keep it all the way till then, and Cena will dethrone him. Meanwhile on Smackdown, HHH will pedigree Edge to hell. I guess it's HHH vs. La Familia. This also means, CM Punk, Rey, etc....... all have a chance now. Hell, even JERICHO does now. Someone needs to turn heel on Raw though, too many faces, and Jericho and Orton as the only heels.

WHOA. That one was unexpected.

Also, apparently according to Sportsnet (?) Anthony Parker has signed with a team in Greece. Raptors are gonna get some changes for damn sure. Maybe it's also the beginning of a trend of NBA guys to Europe.

That would be phenomenal! As a Raptor fan since the teams inception, I wholeheartedly endorse this trade. Do it Colangelo! A board I was reading was saying the Raptors should go after Artest too, to reunite him with his Pacers brother. Imagine Calderon/Artest/Moon/Bosh/O'Neal It would probably be Artest for Bargnani for that to happen. I can see toughness in that team for sure. The Raptors vs. Pistons would be the new Pistons vs. Pacers. Toughness vs. toughness.