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[Vampiro69 0]

Boy, someone really dragged this one out of it's grave, kicking and screaming.

 

Teachers are among the most vital, yet under-appreciated people on earth. We've got billionaire sports stars who can barely say they graduated high school, yet we can't pay teachers enough money to be able to teach our children sufficiently not to be complete screw-ups later in life.

 

Amen

[The Metal Maniac 0]

Supply and demand is not a factor

 

It is in some cases.

 

For example, there's a fair bit of money to be made teaching up North, like in Nunavut. You get paid more then you normally would, plus you get bonuses because the cost-of-living is pretty high up there. And that's because there's not a lot of teachers out there, so...yeah. It is a factor sometimes.

[Guest Eric the Eagle]

I guess anyone calling teaching a part-time job must actually believe that a teacher's work begins and ends with each school bell...

[SuperJerk 0]

Supply and demand is not a factor

 

It is in some cases.

 

For example, there's a fair bit of money to be made teaching up North, like in Nunavut. You get paid more then you normally would, plus you get bonuses because the cost-of-living is pretty high up there. And that's because there's not a lot of teachers out there, so...yeah. It is a factor sometimes.

Okay, yeah there's exceptions of course for special circumstances like moving to the North Pole.

[Danville_Wrestling 0]

Problem with teaching is all of the damn idiotic classes they have to take. I'm in teacher education classes at the moment and they are a freakin' joke. It's like going back to kindergardten. No wonder people are avoiding the profession.

[Vampiro69 0]

Problem with teaching is all of the damn idiotic classes they have to take. I'm in teacher education classes at the moment and they are a freakin' joke. It's like going back to kindergardten. No wonder people are avoiding the profession.

 

That is so true. I swear the classes mentioned the same thing over and over again. I had one teacher say, "Whatever you do do not sleep with your students." I was like no shit Sherlock.

[SuperJerk 0]

Problem with teaching is all of the damn idiotic classes they have to take. I'm in teacher education classes at the moment and they are a freakin' joke. It's like going back to kindergardten. No wonder people are avoiding the profession.

 

Holy crap, ain't that the truth! And most of the time the professor hasn't taught in a school in 10 years.

 

Teacher education needs to be: okay, here's a wide variety of sample lesson plans and methods we're going to try.

 

Teacher education is all learning theory (and only the theories the particular professor likes) and pedagogical terminology (which is just an attempt by the learning theories people to sound like they know more than they do), and not enough practical application.

 

Perfect example: the anticipatory set. All that is is the practice of getting the kids' attention before you start teaching to get them thinking about what it is you'll be teaching about. Simple, common sense idea, right? So instead of making me read 5 chapters on the anticipatory set and why Madeline fucking Hunter thinks its so goddamn important, how about actually showing me some attention getting activities that work????

 

There's a reason most teachers suck for the first 2-3 years.

[Vampiro69 0]

Problem with teaching is all of the damn idiotic classes they have to take. I'm in teacher education classes at the moment and they are a freakin' joke. It's like going back to kindergardten. No wonder people are avoiding the profession.

 

Holy crap, ain't that the truth! And most of the time the professor hasn't taught in a school in 10 years.

 

Teacher education needs to be: okay, here's a wide variety of sample lesson plans and methods we're going to try.

 

Teacher education is all learning theory (and only the theories the particular professor likes) and pedagogical terminology (which is just an attempt by the learning theories people to sound like they know more than they do), and not enough practical application.

 

Perfect example: the anticipatory set. All that is is the practice of getting the kids' attention before you start teaching to get them thinking about what it is you'll be teaching about. Simple, common sense idea, right? So instead of making me read 5 chapters on the anticipatory set and why Madeline fucking Hunter thinks its so goddamn important, how about actually showing me some attention getting activities that work????

 

There's a reason most teachers suck for the first 2-3 years.

 

I should have you talk to the head of the Teacher Education Department at my college.

[Danville_Wrestling 0]

Problem with teaching is all of the damn idiotic classes they have to take. I'm in teacher education classes at the moment and they are a freakin' joke. It's like going back to kindergardten. No wonder people are avoiding the profession.

 

Holy crap, ain't that the truth! And most of the time the professor hasn't taught in a school in 10 years.

 

Teacher education needs to be: okay, here's a wide variety of sample lesson plans and methods we're going to try.

 

Teacher education is all learning theory (and only the theories the particular professor likes) and pedagogical terminology (which is just an attempt by the learning theories people to sound like they know more than they do), and not enough practical application.

 

Perfect example: the anticipatory set. All that is is the practice of getting the kids' attention before you start teaching to get them thinking about what it is you'll be teaching about. Simple, common sense idea, right? So instead of making me read 5 chapters on the anticipatory set and why Madeline fucking Hunter thinks its so goddamn important, how about actually showing me some attention getting activities that work????

 

There's a reason most teachers suck for the first 2-3 years.

 

I should have you talk to the head of the Teacher Education Department at my college.

 

Same here.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Me too.

[SuperJerk 0]

Bush should just go ahead and appoint me Secretary of Education right now.

 

I'm infinitely more qualified than the current one.

 

On January 20, 2005, the United States Senate confirmed Margaret Spellings as the 8th U.S. Secretary of Education.

 

During President George W. Bush's first term, Spellings served as Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy where she helped craft education policies, including the No Child Left Behind Act. She was also responsible for the development and implementation of White House policy on immigration, health, labor, transportation, justice, housing, and other elements of President Bush's domestic agenda.

 

Prior to her White House appointment, Spellings worked for six years as Governor George W. Bush's Senior Advisor with responsibility for developing and implementing the Governor's education policy. Her work included the Texas Reading Initiative, the Student Success Initiative to eliminate social promotion, and the nation's strongest school assessment and accountability system. She also made recommendations to the Governor for key gubernatorial appointments. Previously, Spellings served as associate executive director of the Texas Association of School Boards.

 

Born in Michigan, Spellings moved with her family at a young age to Houston, Texas, where she attended public schools. She graduated from the University of Houston with a bachelor's degree in political science.

 

As the mother of two daughters, one school-age and one college-age, Spellings has a special understanding of the issues facing parents and students today. Her daughter Mary is a freshman in college, and her daughter Grace attends a public middle school. Spellings is the first mother of school children to serve as U.S. Secretary of Education.

 

http://www.ed.gov/news/staff/bios/spellings.html

 

She's basically been appointed to a bunch of education posts by Bush without having any background in the field besides being a mom.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

That's the pattern w/ this administration.

[The Czech Republic 0]

I never want another Texan anywhere again, EVER. I want to be done with Texas.

[SuperJerk 0]

Like Jerry Lawler once said to Kerry Von Erich "The World's a whole lot bigger than Texas."

[super_tigris 0]

I'd love to know what school district in the United States is paying their teachers 60k a year. That's a joke if I've ever heard one, and whoever thinks that needs to check their facts.

[cbacon 0]

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

I'd love to know what school district in the United States is paying their teachers 60k a year. That's a joke if I've ever heard one, and whoever thinks that needs to check their facts.

 

You could probably make 60K after a couple decades of teaching--about 80K around retirement. Here in KY, anyway.

[SuperJerk 0]

Here are some salary schedules for nearby districts in my my area.

 

Belton Missouri School District

Kansas City, KS School District

Kansas City, MO School District

Liberty, Missouri School District

Independence, Missouri School District

Raymore-Peculiar School District