Guest Zero_Cool Report post Posted November 26, 2002 I was watching it last night, when he did the sharpshooter, and it looked like a credible move again! Why, because Storm had it locked in perfectly. Remember the night when Triple H and Austin took out The Rock the night after Wrestlemania X-7? Rock put the sharpshooter on McMahon to get the title shot, and I remember saying to myself, "what the hell is that?" Even I thought I was too good to tap to that shit. It was one of those times where Rock should've let go, punched him in the face, and done it correctly to repeat the spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest art_vandelay Report post Posted November 27, 2002 Everybody does the Sharpshooter better than The Rock. Austin does, Michaels does, Eddy does, etc. You can get Johnny Stamboli out there doing the move to a jobber on Heat and I'm sure it would look better. The thing about a half-crabs and perhaps other moves such as the crucifix armbar, is that they look dreadfully simple. While these moves are in reality more effective than any Figure 4 variation or Sharpshooter, the psychology doesn't come across to the viewer. Especially in the case of the Half Boston Crab. To the technically uneducated, they're thinking why the attacker wouldn't just do a full Boston Crab. If just hooking one leg seems to hurt so much, why not hook both? Two is always better than one, right? Only after gaining some knowledge of submissions and the move particularly does a viewer start to realize that the tork and pressure of a single leg crab is much greater than the smaller amount on a full crab. Unfortunately, all this is much too complicated for a WWE announce team to convey to an audience, especially one that has a very small attention span. While an argument can be raised for the simplicity, yet overness of the Anklelock; this is a move that is unlike any other, much like Mandible Claw. When fans first see it, they accept it for what it is unlike the dynamic created between half crabs and full crabs. BTW, I think Lance might have looked better in his red & white tights, but the red trunks are definitely better than his last pair of tights (the black ones with the x's). Plus, Triple H began to rise to the ME scene after ditching the tights, so you never know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted November 27, 2002 I've never understood why Rock can't do a decent sharpshooter. It's not like it's a complicated move to perform. Couldn't Rock have taken an hour to learn how to use the move without looking like a total dumbass doing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted November 27, 2002 [And the point I'm trying to make is JR flips out how it's wrong that someone steals Bret's signature move on Raw, yet Rock's been doing it for what? 2 years? That's just stupid. Lance Storm is a heel. All J.R. was doing telling people that a heel had no business using the great Brett Hart's signature move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Respect The 'Taker Report post Posted November 27, 2002 Course they do, look at hurricane Yep, and we all feel sorry for him, you know..having to work the RAW Main Event every week and all... ANYWAY, People cared about Lance Storm when he had that ULTRA hot Canadian angle going in WCW, one of the few things they got right. Before the whole 'Team Canada' bullshit, when Lance was on his own, he was quite the entertainer. I say put Lance back into a situation like this, ditch Regal, give him back his sick red and black long tights, have him viciously defend in country to the point where it sickens the audience and watch as it WORKS. Then again, that would MAKE SENSE, wouldn't it Vince? Illusion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Si82 Report post Posted November 27, 2002 Rocky's version of the Sharpshooter is a lot close to Sting's Scorpion Deathlock in the way he crosses the legs. But Sting didn't look like he was taking a shit. Damn right! I can't stand it when The Rock slaps on the sharpshooter. I feel punching his face in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest snowfan Report post Posted November 27, 2002 Rocky's version of the Sharpshooter is a lot close to Sting's Scorpion Deathlock in the way he crosses the legs. But Sting didn't look like he was taking a shit. Damn right! I can't stand it when The Rock slaps on the sharpshooter. I feel punching his face in. Pebble sells the move... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FeArHaVoC Report post Posted November 27, 2002 I've never understood why Rock can't do a decent sharpshooter. 1) He's too Tall, so the move doesn't come off looking "tight." 2) He tries to do it more like Owen Then Bret. Owen always spread his legs apart, unlike Bret who would make it look legitimately Painful by keeping his legs straight forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HartFan86 Report post Posted November 27, 2002 [And the point I'm trying to make is JR flips out how it's wrong that someone steals Bret's signature move on Raw, yet Rock's been doing it for what? 2 years? That's just stupid. Lance Storm is a heel. All J.R. was doing telling people that a heel had no business using the great Brett Hart's signature move. But still...even the casual fans know that Rock used it, so does that make Rock a heel? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted November 27, 2002 No! Because Rock was a face. J.R. will say a face is honoring Brett Hart but a heel is stealing the move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2003 I hate Rock's sharpshooter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2003 What the hell? WHAT WAS THE POINT?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2003 I hate Rock's sharpshooter. STOP BRINGING UP OLD POSTS!!! I've been noticing a lot of people doing that lately and it's fucking pointless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2003 You'd think that someone with 6,500 posts would know better! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2003 I signed on this morning and thought Hartfan got banned for starting a stupid thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2003 Holy year old thread. I don't even remember why I started this. I think JR said something on Raw about how Storm shouldn't be using the Sharpshooter or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2003 I also thought HartFan was banned. I also think that the Rock has a shitty sharpshooter. I also don't care since I haven't watched a whole episode of Raw in God knows how long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJMc 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2003 Well as long as its back up, yes, Rock's SS sucks. He doesn't even rock back half way and he acts like he's fighting for his life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2003 Someone close the damn topic! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Internet Warfare 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2003 Why was it that everytime the Rock did the shapshooter he looked like he was in pain? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syxx2001 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2003 Whats wrong with bringing up old posts if someone has something to say? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted November 9, 2003 Maybe we should point out that Benoit has been using the Sharpshooter as a finisher along with WWE giving Benoit the sell that he can win with a variety of moves Crossface-Head Dive-Sharpshooter... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Frank The Tank Report post Posted November 9, 2003 He had nothing to say that hasn't already been said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites