Edge still sucks????

[Guest humongous2002]

Well after last night's ppv Crapageddon i noticed that if Edge is not facing either Angle/Y2J/Benoit or Eddy the match will be nothing but brutal. Finally Edge was truly exposed like the luggage that he is, his match against A-Trainwreck was unwatchable, just like his match against the Big Slow a couple of weeks ago. Edge better get in touch with HGH's roid dealer if he wants to get a serious push b/c his wrestling skills are not main event material, unless they have him wrestle with world class athletes for the rest of his life.

[EL DANDY~!]

Edge is not as great as all you think he is. He's had great matches when he has great wrestlers that can carry him. Right now, he can't obviously have a good match with somebody the likes of Albert, just because of that reason.

[Guest bob_barron]

I didn't think the match with Albert was too bad.

 

It's hard to get a good match with Show when all you're doing is getting tossed around.

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

::: looks at the current main event roster for both shows :::

 

You're kidding, right? What was that again about main event wrestling talent?

 

Man, it's funny watching some people bash Edge for having a shitty match with a guy who's pretty much uncarryable. Hell, what about Angle's shitfest with Fat Show? Regardless of the ending, the match itself was fucking terrible, no matter HOW you slice it.

 

Simply put, if you want to bash Edge for having a crappy match against a no-talent hoss, then go all the way and bash Angle as well.

[Guest bob_barron]

I didn't think Angle v. Show was that bad either. It was way too long but Angle tried his hardest and I was marking out at the ending

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

Edge is not as great as all you think he is. He's had great matches when he has great wrestlers that can carry him. Right now, he can't obviously have a good match with somebody the likes of Albert, just because of that reason.

The same can be said for Angle...

[Guest Human Fly]

I've never seen a good Albert singles match (except that one with Kane that everyone always brings up, whatever I'll include it just to be nice). I didn't expect last nights to be any good. Just try and think how the impending Albert v. Undertaker feud will be cranking out 3 star matches.

[Guest DJ Jeff]

Albert isn't exactly a great opponent for a guy like Edge, or anyone for that matter. I never saw the match to actually judge it, but I could imagine it would be something like Edge vs. Big Show, which wasn't all that great. I will admit that I think Angle and even Benoit are better wrestling wise than Edge. That doesn't mean that Edge sucks, because he doesn't.

[Guest Kotzenjunge]

Let's see Benoit two years ago or Flair fifteen years ago carry Albert to a good match. I think you wolves were just looking for a reason to pounce on him. I didn't think it was that bad myself. Nothing above *, but still wasn't as bad as it could have been.

[Guest eirejmcmahon]

Edge is far from the finished article but he is coming along quite nicely (in my eyes, anyway), I don't think it's fair to judge him based on his performance against that usless fuck A-train.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

As anyone had a good match with Albert?

[Guest bob_barron]

He had a decent match against Kane in summer 2001

[Guest Rob Edwards]

Nope Edge didn't get Albert to a good match but it wasn't as terrible as your average Albert match thats for sure, Albert in singles has never been above ** (safe barrier!) from what I can remember

[Guest AndrewTS]

He had a decent match against Kane in summer 2001

That seems like a miracle, because despite his decent looking offense, Kane has been involved in some of the biggest suckfests of all time.

 

For example:

 

Kane vs. Test No Mercy 2001

Kane/Taker vs. Kronic

Kane vs. Show (I forget when...but it sucked)

Kane vs. Taker (any version)

Kane vs. Batista last night.

 

Dare I say--maybe Albert carried him in their match?!

 

And maybe Albert is a better worker than Test--oh, well, of course he is.

[Guest Rob Edwards]

Bleh Edge got Test to a decent match at Survivor Series 01

[Guest bob_barron]

I dont understand why everyone thinks Kane v. Test was the worst thing ever. I didn't think it was bad at all.

 

Kane v. Taker at WMXIV kicked ass I thought.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I must have missed this miraculous Albert/Kane match.

 

Kane/Test wasn't good...but it was good for who was in it.

 

Edge/Test was legitimitely pretty good.

[B. Brian Brunzell]

I have no beef with Edge. I think he's good, but he ws made to looke like a superstar thanks to guys like Angle, Benoit, and Eddie, and I don't think even they could get a good match out of Albert. I just don't think it's humanly possible.

[Guest bob_barron]

It was right before KOTR bps.

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

I dont understand why everyone thinks Kane v. Test was the worst thing ever. I didn't think it was bad at all.

 

Kane v. Taker at WMXIV kicked ass I thought.

Heh, I agree, Bob. I thought Kane/Test was a decent match, wasn't anything over **, but still, it entertained me.

 

Only problem I had with Kane/Taker from WM was how bad Kane was on offense. When Taker took control, things starting speeding up a bit, thank God. If they had cut off maybe 3 or 4 minutes, I thought the match would have flowed better.

[Guest bob_barron]

The match has problems but it had this epic feel to it that kinda overshadowed the shoddy work by Kane. I can still watch the match today and I still jakked up about it. And Kane kicking out of two tombstones and almost a third was pretty cool

[Guest The Hamburglar]

The Kane-Albert matches were fairly groovy because both guys really tried hard and attempted to do a little more than the standard big-man matches. They had Albert's frankly impressive military press slam on Kane, the fact that the Baldo Bomb to Kane is an awesome visual, a funktastic DDT reversal to the chokeslam by Albert and of course the Hurrikanerana. Like I say, they both tried hard to make some fun little matches.

The Edge hatred is sad and pathetic. Give it up, for all his flaws he's still miles better than RVD and his offense, though shite, is not quite as shite as Jericho's. That and Edge has his whole tag-team career which was entertaining as hell to back him up.

[Guest AndrewTS]

The only thing that made Kane/Test any good was Kane chokeslamming and powerbombing Nick Patrick post-match for his favoring of Test.

 

That was also the most interesting offense in the whole mess.

 

Kane/Test was mostly a punch and kick-fest with some ringside brawling. Completely blah. It was great by the standards of a Beefcake match, but that's not saying much.

 

Test vs. Taker at Summerslam was loads better, mostly due to the novelty of Taker using psychology and submission holds. Test was most punchy-kicky-knee. He did his big elbow and that was about the extent of his interesting offense.

 

However, Test sucks however you slice it.

[Guest AndrewTS]

The Kane-Albert matches were fairly groovy because both guys really tried hard and attempted to do a little more than the standard big-man matches. They had Albert's frankly impressive military press slam on Kane, the fact that the Baldo Bomb to Kane is an awesome visual, a funktastic DDT reversal to the chokeslam by Albert and of course the Hurrikanerana. Like I say, they both tried hard to make some fun little matches.

The Edge hatred is sad and pathetic. Give it up, for all his flaws he's still miles better than RVD and his offense, though shite, is not quite as shite as Jericho's. That and Edge has his whole tag-team career which was entertaining as hell to back him up.

I seem to remember a Kanezigiri, too.

[Guest deadbeater]

It's the WWE's fault. They are making the hosses plod. And smarks do not like plod at all. They want hosses to instead perform like, like Red of the Spanish Announce Table.

 

Albert is quite mobile for a big dude.

[Guest BigPoppaKev]

I think Edge is really talented and doesn't get the credit he deserves. Yeah he might have been carried but it take a hell of a work, carried or not to have a MOTYC on a few sepereate occassions.

[Guest papacita]

For everybody hating on Edge, just remember Hogan/Angle from KOTR.

[Guest AndrewTS]

Would carrying Albert be as impressive as carrying Nash?

 

Bret Hart did it.

 

Hell, HBK carried Sid...plus HHH at the Summerslam 2K2.

[Guest TheyCallMeMark]

Edge isn't baggage. Baggage doesn't get to a four star match. Angle is a heavier piece of crap than Edge; at least Edge realizes that the people in the ring besides him know how to build a match as well as/better than he does. Edge can't carry anyone, sure, but at least he is VERY carryABLE.

 

For those of you sitting there bashing Edge because you're bitter than Vince has pushed him and you want your precious little Angle pushed, please get over it.

 

Angle is not the fucking be-all and end-all of wrestling right now. His only great matches ever were with Benoit or Austin, cases in which he decided to let himself be carried. Every match he's been in otherwise he's felt the need to carry everyone involved, because apparantly he's convinced he knows how to put on a better match. Angle is the VERY DEFINITION of "Sports Entertainment" you all loathe so much. He skips build, logic or psych in his matches and goes straight for popping the crowd with the next big move or near-fall.

 

Angle is a good worker, but you gotta realize, the only thing he has over Edge is a more credible offense (most of which he stole from Benoit, anyway). Edge probably not as good at working as Angle, but he "knows his role" as the Rock would say.

 

And your all acting like it's a sin that he didn't have a good match with Albert. You seem to think that it should somehow be in league with the other matches he's had. Isn't it OBVIOUS that when you're in the ring with an INFERIOR worker you're going to have INFERIOR matches? HOW COULD THE MATCH POSSIBLY HAVE HELD UP? Do you REALLY think that it was going to be as good as his match against Eddy? It's not Edge's fault the match sucked; it's Alberts.

[Guest ArchoanJB]

True, Edge isn't the best wrestler in the WWE, but he isn't terrible and one of the better WWE products. NOBODY that I know can carry Albert to anothing above somewhat decent, and Edge did just that, give him props for that, not detriments.

 

I also got a kick out of Kane/Test at No Mercy, found it to be a really good big men match.