Guest Powerplay Report post Posted February 4, 2003 All big newspapers are extremely liberal, trust me I have worked for dow jones in the past. Anyway it says it in the news, don't ignore it. I never said the washington times are fair and unbalanced, don't start putting shit in my mouth. --Rob Rob, that source is just as valid as the numerous Washington Post articles that Tyler cited. I don't see how you can dismiss one then cite the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2003 Blah tyler, china is our biggest threat, not our ally. I guess you do not see it that way. any if they have been our ally since wwII why did they attack us during the korean war? Please get your facts straight. --Rob When we practically invaded their country in an age where we were shitting upon their style of government as it was, I think their attacks were slightly justified. They were an ally in WW2 when they helped us attack Japan, etc. Sure, they got slaughtered... but they were still on our side. It's funny... our biggest threat is a huge nation with tons of poor citizens? Great logic, Rob. Who's our next 'biggest threat' after China, the Dinkwad tribe from western Nigeria? Just becuase someone has nuclear weapons does not mean they are a threat. We trade with them, they rely on us for some industry. King is right when he says we're more of a peaceful coexistance, and I was probably exaggerating when I said they are our ally, but if they were attacked unjustly, we would likely support them, IMO. Dude, they fucking hate us. If they could they woukd nuke us. They threatened to do it in 1995 http://www.washtimes.com/national/20021211...11-27417625.htm Does anyone read the news? --Rob BAHAHAHAHAHA. You say the Washington Post is not a valid source because it's "Liberal Propaganda", but the Washington Times is a totally unbiased news agency. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. All big newspapers are extremely liberal, trust me I have worked for dow jones in the past. Anyway it says it in the news, don't ignore it. I never said the washington times are fair and unbalanced, don't start putting shit in my mouth. --Rob Do you endorse the fact that the Washington Times is owned by the Unifaction church, an anti-Christian religious cult? Does the name "Sun Myong Moon" ring a bell? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted February 4, 2003 Because Jobber of the Week gave a list of quotes that make Pat Buchanan look very negative. As someone who is a supporter won't you try to make him look better and maybe see what he really meant to say? Don't say they were taken out of context if you can't prove it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kibagami Report post Posted February 4, 2003 But Judge, only Rob's citations are valid, while he can dismiss others' offhand without a glance. You know that. K. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RobJohnstone Report post Posted February 4, 2003 You can never take the news from major publications at face value. Don't believe it if you don't want to. I don't care. Keep thinking china is out best friend. --Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted February 4, 2003 England helps us everywhere we go. When no one else seems willing to step up to the plate and pitch in, England is right there. Besides, relationships with allies aren't measured by what we get out of them. We're a superpower and England is not; it's to be expected that there will be some one-sided exchanges. Ultimately, it doesn't matter because we both stand for the same things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted February 4, 2003 The remark was reported to the White House at the time as a veiled threat to use nuclear weapons against the United States. Wanna hear the quote, everyone? Gen. Xiong told former defense official Charles Freeman in 1995 that the United States would not come to Taiwan's defense in any conflict with China because it "cared more about Los Angeles than Taipei," the Taiwanese capital. Wow. Great cite, Rob. A Chinese dolittle general saying we care more about ourself than about them attacking Taiwan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RobJohnstone Report post Posted February 4, 2003 Because Jobber of the Week gave a list of quotes that make Pat Buchanan look very negative. As someone who is a supporter won't you try to make him look better and maybe see what he really meant to say? Don't say they were taken out of context if you can't prove it Barron he obviously got those from a propaganda site. If anything he should cite his source. --Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Powerplay Report post Posted February 4, 2003 You can never take the news from major publications at face value. Don't believe it if you don't want to. I don't care. Keep thinking china is out best friend. --Rob I just don't think you should be citing a paper that is greatly known for swinging far to the right when you dismiss papers that go to the left a little. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted February 4, 2003 BTW I would like to point out that since I cited the news about china we have switched subjects to buchanan again. It is happening as I said before. --Rob We never ended the subject on Germany. We pointed out that like Saddam, Hitler did violate a treaty. So shouldn't we have gone after him? And no one has switched subjects yet. You've just said so many asinine things that everyone is trying to pick them apart Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kibagami Report post Posted February 4, 2003 You can never take the news from major publications at face value. Don't believe it if you don't want to. I don't care. --Rob Ladies and gentlemen, the reason Rob will never change his mind. "Well, um...I don't care if you don't believe me. I know what's right and wrong! I'm special. The nice woman that drives the short bus said so herself." Asshat. K. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RobJohnstone Report post Posted February 4, 2003 Barron--Well for what Dr.Tom said then yes, I have changed my mind, we should have went into wwII. I did not look at it that way. --Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2003 "You can never take the news from major publications at face value. Don't believe it if you don't want to. I don't care." then why the fuck did you cite news from major publications if it wasn't to be trusted? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RobJohnstone Report post Posted February 4, 2003 It popped up on google, so I cited it. --Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EricMM Report post Posted February 4, 2003 Bob, there is no way I am going to do the research to refute everyone one of those quotes. Why should I? Because if you DON'T Rob, then no one will BELIEVE you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Christ on a cracker. Anyways, those quotes are about as plain as you can get. Women can't be true leaders of the western world because they don't have the mental capacity? Explain that shit away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted February 4, 2003 Nice job reading it too, Rob. Care to find one where they spew hatred about us when we're not threatening them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2003 Barron--Well for what Dr.Tom said then yes, I have changed my mind, we should have went into wwII. I did not look at it that way. --Rob It's nice to see that you're being embarassed out of your extreme isolationist stance Would you recongize South Korea as an ally that was in trouble when North Korea invaded? because you oppose the Korean War, correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RobJohnstone Report post Posted February 4, 2003 Because if you DON'T Rob, then no one will BELIEVE you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Christ on a cracker. Anyways, those quotes are about as plain as you can get. Women can't be true leaders of the western world because they don't have the mental capacity? Explain that shit away. I do not support everything buchanan says. Do you support everything fdr or teddy said? Ever? Come on, you act like I am trying to defend my father or something. --Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Powerplay Report post Posted February 4, 2003 Barron--Well for what Dr.Tom said then yes, I have changed my mind, we should have went into wwII. I did not look at it that way. --Rob It's nice to see that you're being embarassed out of your extreme isolationist stance Would you recongize South Korea as an ally that was in trouble when North Korea invaded? because you oppose the Korean War, correct? Bah, Robbie! What the hell do WE need allies for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RobJohnstone Report post Posted February 4, 2003 Barron--Well for what Dr.Tom said then yes, I have changed my mind, we should have went into wwII. I did not look at it that way. --Rob It's nice to see that you're being embarassed out of your extreme isolationist stance Would you recongize South Korea as an ally that was in trouble when North Korea invaded? because you oppose the Korean War, correct? Thye are an ally now but they were not then. We should not have gone to korea, and I know I am not alone on TSM saying that point. --Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted February 4, 2003 Because if you DON'T Rob, then no one will BELIEVE you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Christ on a cracker. Anyways, those quotes are about as plain as you can get. Women can't be true leaders of the western world because they don't have the mental capacity? Explain that shit away. I do not support everything buchanan says. Do you support everything fdr or teddy said? Ever? Come on, you act like I am trying to defend my father or something. --Rob So, you've said you don't support Pat's view on Religion (being a Catholic) Care to continue? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Powerplay Report post Posted February 4, 2003 Because if you DON'T Rob, then no one will BELIEVE you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Christ on a cracker. Anyways, those quotes are about as plain as you can get. Women can't be true leaders of the western world because they don't have the mental capacity? Explain that shit away. I do not support everything buchanan says. Do you support everything fdr or teddy said? Ever? Come on, you act like I am trying to defend my father or something. --Rob Well, damn it, you've defended practically everything he's said so far. For a while I thought you WERE Pat Buchanan, sans the so-called "Charisma". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RobJohnstone Report post Posted February 4, 2003 Because if you DON'T Rob, then no one will BELIEVE you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Christ on a cracker. Anyways, those quotes are about as plain as you can get. Women can't be true leaders of the western world because they don't have the mental capacity? Explain that shit away. I do not support everything buchanan says. Do you support everything fdr or teddy said? Ever? Come on, you act like I am trying to defend my father or something. --Rob So, you've said you don't support Pat's view on Religion (being a Catholic) Care to continue? Tyler, Catholicism is a branch of chrisitanity, I do not like the catholic religion persay but I am not against it either. I say, if your cool with JC, your cool with me. --Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted February 4, 2003 Care to address the actual question, Robbie? I'm also very much a Catholic. I know the tenets of the religion, thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Powerplay Report post Posted February 4, 2003 Care to address the actual question, Robbie? Tyler... how many times has he done that on this thread so far? Once, maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RobJohnstone Report post Posted February 4, 2003 You want me to list everything of PJB in which I do not support? --Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted February 4, 2003 You want me to list everything of PJB in which I do not support? --Rob 10. That's all we need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RobJohnstone Report post Posted February 4, 2003 Why should I have to? Why don't you list 10 things you hate about gore or nader or whoever you like in politics. Jackass questions get jackass responses. --Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2003 Thye are an ally now but they were not then. from the huge facts on file collection on 2facts.com "Issue Date: May 25, 1950 South Korea: News in Brief South Korea has 100,000 U.S.-trained troops but is threatened with invasion by a Soviet-trained North Korean army of 200,000, the U.S. ECA told Congress May 19." if they weren't our allies then, then how come we had troops in their country, how come we even established South Korea as our sphere of influence in Korea if they weren't our allies? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RobJohnstone Report post Posted February 4, 2003 Thye are an ally now but they were not then. from the huge facts on file collection on 2facts.com "Issue Date: May 25, 1950 South Korea: News in Brief South Korea has 100,000 U.S.-trained troops but is threatened with invasion by a Soviet-trained North Korean army of 200,000, the U.S. ECA told Congress May 19." if they weren't our allies then, then how come we had troops in their country, how come we even established South Korea as our sphere of influence in Korea if they weren't our allies? You tell me rob e --Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites