Guest bob_barron Report post Posted February 9, 2003 Okay- who do you think should be fired from WWE. The previous thread was closed so I'll start another one here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 9, 2003 Thanks, Bob. I owe you one. Now for my updated list. Terri - I don't see much use for her on-camera. I don't think she is a very good interviewer, wrestler, or valet. I may let her stay with a "behind-the-scenes" type job. Jackie Gayda - No real wrestling skills to speak of. Not too good at promos, either. Jacqueline - I don't know what to do with Jacqueline. She can't generate enough heat to be in the women's division. The ref thing doesn't seem to be working either. Scott Steiner - Too injury prone and not half as good as he used to be. Also has problems cutting promos. Test - No heat at all. Not a very good wrestler either. Triple H - Too much of a problem backstage. Not to mention a power-hungry SOB. His skills have been limited since his injury and extreme weight game. I would let him go to heal and to learn some humility. Kevin Nash - Past his prime, a bad worker, and a problem backstage. No redeeming qualities. Shawn Michaels - Once one of the greatest workers in the industry. Now just a middle-aged man trying to relive his glory days. Lita - Too much of a spot worker and no promo skills. Bradshaw - I have no tolerance for hazing and threats. Sloppy wrestling is also one of his flaws. A-Train - The only heat he has is "get off my TV" heat. Not a very skilled worker either. Big Show - Very slow. Too much of a hassle to have in the ring. Bill DeMott - See A-Train. Billy Gunn - Heatless and injury prone. Not a good worker to top it off. Rikishi - A gimmick based on his ass and dancing. Not gonna have it. Hulk Hogan - Old and broken down. Mark Henry - Too much weight and not very good in the ring. He should stick to weight-lifting. Undertaker - See Hulk Hogan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest T®ITEC Report post Posted February 9, 2003 Linda Miles -- Great kid, but I'm sure that she will never do anything worthwhile in WWE. Johnathan Coachman -- Sucks. Always has. The TEIII Winners -- Nothing will come from them. The only TE competitors that have done anything are from season 1. The show is just bad now; it should stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mattdotcom Report post Posted February 9, 2003 You'll be happy to know Billy retired because of his last injury and is supposedly about to become a road agent, The Dreamer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 9, 2003 Oh no! I forgot to list the commentators... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Si82 Report post Posted February 11, 2003 OK, here who I think should get the sack: Batista - Seeming useless musclebound lug who has no heat. Bradshaw - Talentless, flabby texan who seems to get off on beating the shit out of younger guys. Jackie Gayda - Awful, just awful... Kevin Nash - Broken down, old SOB who seems to injure himself whenever he steps in a ring. Total dead weight. Scott Steiner - After his bloody awful showing at Royal Rumble it seems to me that this muscle freak has forgotten how to wrestle. Shawn Michaels - A sad, old, pathetic shell of his former self trying to put himself back into the spotlight at the expense of younger talent. Triple H - A backstage trouble maker who manages to drag down the morale of the Raw locker room with his egotistical runs at the top spot. Seems to think himself better than anyone else and is no longer a good worker due to injury and weight gain in recent times. A-Train - A totally boring worker with no mic skills or heat. Big Show - Slow, fat, lazy, a waste of $1million a year. Bill DeMott - Another boring worker with no heat or mic skills. Hollywood Hulk Hogan - A slow moving and very boring old has been who has had his day. Undertaker - See above As for commentators, I don't think any of the ones working for the WWE today are worth a damn. So fire them all and bring in some news ones instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted February 13, 2003 Terri - for reasons pointed out earlier. they could slap someone else in that role no problem..its always pointed out that shes rewarded for how long she stayed but isnt that because WWE kept her?? Mark Henry- just eat the guaranteed contract..people rip on Albert and DeMott all the time and while I could live without them theyve done more than Henry does (maybe) Shawn Michaels - i just feel theyve gotten everything they can out of him PLUS they have been paying him for so long and getting nothing out of it in return before he came back at Summerslam..but then the other side that gives me pause id that he got hurt in the ring and all so they should be taking care of him financialy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Aero Report post Posted February 13, 2003 Scott Steiner- His Royal Rumble performance says it all. If he doesn't improve by No Way Out, then I sincerely hope Vince comes to his senses and cans him. On a side note, when Booker T was getting beat on by HHH's group on Raw last monday, I thought to myself, "I wonder who's going to save him?" When Steiner ran out, I was surprised, not because of him saving Booker, but rather I thought, "Oh yeah, Steiner's still hanging around." The guy contributes nothing to the show. Mark Henry- Is he still around? If so, FIRE, FIRE. One of the most boring workers I've ever seen in WWE. A-Train- Every one of his pushes have failed, and he just ends up on Velocity every week. 3-Minute Warning- Everytime they're on Raw, I usually change the channel, they are too boring. The only good thing about them is their music. On a sidenote, what ever happened to that breakup angle they had a few weeks ago? Shawn Michaels- I wouldn't fire him, but he should go after Wrestlemania. Jericho should go over him cleanly via submission, and Shawn should just retire for good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted February 13, 2003 Steiner, Albert, Rikishi, Palumbo, Big Show, The Tough Enough People, Hardcore Holly, Mark Henry, 3MW, Regal/Storm, Nash, and most of the Dev. Talent they know they will never ever use no matter what. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted February 17, 2003 RVD. Just so I can watch RAW without caring anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Damn You Helmsley Report post Posted February 17, 2003 Bob Holly, Mark Henry, Bill DeMott, Rikishi and those equally talentless fat Samoans on RAW, Bradshaw, Scott Steiner, Big Daddy Quad, Test, the Tough Enough II winners and A-Train. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest T®ITEC Report post Posted February 17, 2003 Seeing "Big Daddy Quad" makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. It also makes me wonder if you're truly talking about Nash, or about HHH. To me, it could go either way. Booyah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garth 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2003 IMO they need to fire: A-Train, Big Show, Bill DeMott, Bradshaw, All the womans wrestlers bar Victoria, Jazz, Trish Ivory and Lita. Batista, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DawnBTVS Report post Posted February 18, 2003 Fire: Batista, Mark Henry, Scott Steiner, Rikishi and Bradshaw. Reasons for Others not Canned Big Show: Is capable of getting over as a comedy gimmick A-Train: Was decent with Test in T N' A. Could get over if given good aids like Trish in T N' A. Hell, give him Ivory. Bill Demott: He can work decent ** matches. Just needs a better manager, bring back Sonny Ono! Hardcore Holly: Can get over with a comedy gimmick(Super Heavyweight) and can get ** matches as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 19, 2003 Reasons for Others not Canned Big Show: Is capable of getting over as a comedy gimmick A-Train: Was decent with Test in T N' A. Could get over if given good aids like Trish in T N' A. Hell, give him Ivory. Bill Demott: He can work decent ** matches. Just needs a better manager, bring back Sonny Ono! Hardcore Holly: Can get over with a comedy gimmick(Super Heavyweight) and can get ** matches as well. Eh... I really think those guys should be on the fired list as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted February 20, 2003 I would use Big Show the way they did in Fall of 2001. Put him in a tag team and just have him stand on the apron, get the hot tag, come in and kick some ass. It's a way of getting him over and using him properly without having him stink up the ring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wrestlingfanatic Report post Posted February 20, 2003 Thanks, Bob. I owe you one. Now for my updated list. Terri - I don't see much use for her on-camera. I don't think she is a very good interviewer, wrestler, or valet. I may let her stay with a "behind-the-scenes" type job. Jackie Gayda - No real wrestling skills to speak of. Not too good at promos, either. Jacqueline - I don't know what to do with Jacqueline. She can't generate enough heat to be in the women's division. The ref thing doesn't seem to be working either. Scott Steiner - Too injury prone and not half as good as he used to be. Also has problems cutting promos. Test - No heat at all. Not a very good wrestler either. Triple H - Too much of a problem backstage. Not to mention a power-hungry SOB. His skills have been limited since his injury and extreme weight game. I would let him go to heal and to learn some humility. Kevin Nash - Past his prime, a bad worker, and a problem backstage. No redeeming qualities. Shawn Michaels - Once one of the greatest workers in the industry. Now just a middle-aged man trying to relive his glory days. Lita - Too much of a spot worker and no promo skills. Bradshaw - I have no tolerance for hazing and threats. Sloppy wrestling is also one of his flaws. A-Train - The only heat he has is "get off my TV" heat. Not a very skilled worker either. Big Show - Very slow. Too much of a hassle to have in the ring. Bill DeMott - See A-Train. Billy Gunn - Heatless and injury prone. Not a good worker to top it off. Rikishi - A gimmick based on his ass and dancing. Not gonna have it. Hulk Hogan - Old and broken down. Mark Henry - Too much weight and not very good in the ring. He should stick to weight-lifting. Undertaker - See Hulk Hogan. Interesting. You sound like Aristotle coming up with the perfect system of government but failing because it could not happen that way. Terri - Too Hot to get rid of Jackie Gayda - Won TE, needs training. Can't be a star in 8 weeks of training Jacqueline - Her face is beat but her body is way too good to fire. I like her work as a ref Scott Steiner - He had his trial period and failed. He should go only because he was never there in the first place Test - Test wrestles descent. Not Misawa but who is? Triple H - Too much invested in him. More valuable with them than not. Kevin Nash - Good on the mic. Could be a great manager or color guy Shawn Michaels - See above Lita - With the lack of women wrestlers, how can you call Lita spotty? She is no Kudo but, who is? Bradshaw - Could be good in Strong Style type matches. If your not into stiff matches I could see why you don't like him. A-Train - You need freaky guys in wrestling. It's a rule Big Show - Too marketable to get rid of Bill DeMott - Keep him on TE Bill Gunn - Good Tag wrestler Rikishi - Over, established, veteran Hulk Hogan - Get rid of the most OVER person ever, who is still over I might add. Get Real. Mark Henry - Use him on heat etc... to put people over Undertaker - Still over, still the man, still marketable It seems as though you want a strict cruiser WWE. Lightweights are cool but you need the other people too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 21, 2003 While I admit I can be pretty unforgiving when it comes to wrestling, I think you are being a little TOO forgiving. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted February 21, 2003 "I would use Big Show the way they did in Fall of 2001." exactly they blew it when he was teaming with Spike..go back and watch some of those shows the crowd was going ape for him and the team. A great use of both of those guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Blazenwing 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2003 I've just got one to add: Spike Dudley - he has no use on RAW, they just use him as a sacrificial lamb when they want to get heat on someone. Maybe if they moved him to SD!, he could go after the Cruiserweight title or something, but on RAW, he has no purpose (which is a shame, since he's one of my fave wrestlers) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 24, 2003 I've just got one to add: Spike Dudley - he has no use on RAW, they just use him as a sacrificial lamb when they want to get heat on someone. Maybe if they moved him to SD!, he could go after the Cruiserweight title or something, but on RAW, he has no purpose (which is a shame, since he's one of my fave wrestlers) Perhaps. But he doesn't seem like a regular cruiser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest papacita Report post Posted February 24, 2003 If I HAD to fire somebody...#1 would be Mark Henry...personally, I always liked him, but he hasn't been interesting in years, plus he sucks in the ring. ...eh...Does Kevin Kelly do anything useful? Because if not, he's gone. Nash...I dunno what's up with that contract, but he's been worthless since they got him, he's already peaked in popularity and I don't see him having much of an upside in the future. Drop his ass. Goldberg...I know he's not hired yet...(at least to my knowledge, I've been avoiding news today because I had to tape NWO last night), but if they do, they should fire him. That's about all I can say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 26, 2003 So, who did everybody fire in EWR? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Polish_Rifle Report post Posted March 6, 2003 Spike Dudley, Albert, A-Train, Hip Hop Hippo, Prince Albert and "A" form T&A. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Betty Houle 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2003 I think people are being hasty mentioning Batista. Sure, he has no heat and hasn't shown us much yet but he's still a young guy and he turn into something great down the road. Definitely dump Kevin Nash though! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2003 Hardcore Holly: Can get over with a comedy gimmick(Super Heavyweight) and can get ** matches as well. You're thinking of Crash. Who I Would Release: Tommy Dreamer - He's nothing special in-ring and can only get over in hardcore matches, and there is no hardcore division anymore. Test – Give up on him, he’s not a good wrestler and he will NEVER get over. Dawn Marie – Utterly worthless, especially since she isn’t even managing anybody. Linda Miles – She’s not very interesting and unless she’s really improved in-ring (In all fairness, it’s Jackie’s fault that the TE II girls were sent to developmental), she’s not worth keeping. Jackie Gayda – See above, except at least Jackie was kinda interesting. Jonathan Coachman – He’s all right on Raw and in segments with The Rock, but on Heat he’s just irritating. Release him or just have him do backstage interviews. Mark Henry – I actually applaud Henry for going through all the crap he did in the WWF, but he’s just bland. Ernest Miller – Look, you just aren’t working out, Cat. Release this guy and put Kevin Nash (Yes, Kevin Nash) on color for Velocity, see how that works. Shawn Michaels – Look, after Michaels/Jericho, he just needs to retire. Rodney Mack – Completely unimpressive, how the hell did he replace not only Bull Buchanan, but D’Lo Brown as well? Bradshaw - He did the impossible: he defiled the HARDCORE TITLE. Release, please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted March 7, 2003 As much as I hate Taker he shouldn't be fired because he still serves a purpose. Same goes for Hogan, HBK etc. The WWE should only fire someone who is totally and utterly worthless. For me, the following people fit into that catagory: Test. Can he wrestle? No. Can he talk? No. Is he over? No. Then why the fuck do they keep this guy? Mark Lloyd. Can anybody tell me what he brings to the table? Mark Henry. See Test, plus he gets paid a shitload. Jackie Gayda. Ugly, No charisma, crap wrestler. Bradshaw. OK...OK, so he may be able to get over, but he is horrendous. Bill DeMott. he just sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Polish_Rifle Report post Posted March 8, 2003 Crash Holly Terri Mark Henry Nunzio Funaki Al Snow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrnoitaull 0 Report post Posted March 17, 2003 *Maven *Rodney Mack( see Big show) *A Train ( it think he's had his run, he's drained the whole sidekick hoss role for all its worth) *Bill Demott *and roughly, Big Show (NWA could do so much more with him) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted March 17, 2003 Steiner, Nash, Mark Henry and the TE2 winners all should be released simply because they cannot work. I am usually very lenient about this (guys like Big Show have value), but Nash & Steiner are just too broken down to even get in the ring these days and should retire. Henry is the worst wrestler since Giant Gonzales and needs a career change. This obviously isn't for him. Linda & Jackie likewise shouldn't be here. I didn't watch Tough Enough 2, but they wouldn't have made it far at all on TE3. I would also fire Bob Holly because of his actions with regards to Brock Lesnar and Tough Enough 3. He has talent, but his behaviour should get him canned. His injury problems only make it easier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites