Theory about Kevin Nash's Current Push

[Guest Kanenite#357]

Has anyone noticed that unlike Goldberg, Steiner, and the rest of the ex-WCW washouts, Kevin Nash's return was not accompanied by any music videos or any other form of hype for that matter? And since his return, all of the booking seems designed to expose Nash and make him look bad. Could it be that Vince is trying to humiliate Nash for being successful in another company? An effort to destroy the remainder of his career under the pretense of pushing him? Or is this simply another case of the WWF seriously botching someone's push?

[Guest newblood03]

id go with the 2nd one

[Guest Memphis]

Really,who the fuck cares?

[Adam 0]

I doubt Vince still holds a huge grudge towards Big Lazy, he just really sucks now.

[Guest Eagan469]

Vince thinks that if it worked before, it'll work again

 

*newsflash* - Vince, it ain't workin'

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

Hey, either way is fine w/ me

[Guest Trivia247]

Actually I imagine the reason is that Nash was already redebut back in Feb 2002. That was his and the other's vid promo for their return. Nash doesn't need one just because he got injured running from point a to point b and tearing his Quad

[Guest humongous2002]

Imagine a Desire video for Nash, it would be longer than all of his matches he had in the WWE since his return.

[Garth 0]

The sad thing about that is its true, very true.

[B. Brian Brunzell 0]

It's more fucking up, that's all. Combined with the fact that Nash actually has to wrestle, the push is doubly terrible.

[Guest Austin3164life]

Vince thinks that if it worked before, it'll work again

 

*newsflash* - Vince, it ain't workin'

It never worked before. Nash was the worst drawing WWE World Champ in history. This time won't be any different if he gets a hold of the Kliq Orgy World Championship.

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

An effort to destroy the remainder of his career under the pretense of pushing him? Or is this simply another case of the WWF seriously botching someone's push?

Aren't they both the same thing?

[Guest JAxlMorrison]

Vince thinks that if it worked before, it'll work again

 

*newsflash* - Vince, it ain't workin'

I don't think it worked before. From what I have read, Nash was the lowest drawing WWF champion of all time.

[Guest NoSelfWorth]

He was the lowest drawing WWF Champion of all time. He could actually be even worse this time around, at least from a house show attendance perspective.

[Guest The Bad Guy]

I thought Sid in December 1996 was actually the lowest drawing champion of all time?

[Guest NoSelfWorth]

Nope. Kevin Nash is the current lowest drawing WWF Champion of all time.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

He must be so proud.

 

On a side note...if you want to take ratings, buyrates and house show attendance into avccount...

 

Brock has been terrible.

[Guest NoSelfWorth]

On a side note...if you want to take ratings, buyrates and house show attendance into avccount...

 

Brock has been terrible.

Maybe. But Brock at least as an excuse, because he never got the push that a World Champion is supposed to get, having been treated like a midcarder for almost all of his current reign, in favor of the abortion of an angle that is Mr America.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

He didn't light the world on fire after his mega push either.

 

So far he's 0-2 as both a monster and a smiling face.

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

Nash lost more ratings from the previous title holder than any other champion in history. Bret Hart drew quite well as champ in 1994, but they tanked after about three months of Nash as champ.

 

Sid did draw worse buyrates & ratings than anybody, but he beat #2 on the list in Shawn Michaels so it wasn't that big of a loss.

 

Personally, I do think Sid should get that claim, but most people seem to go with Nash.

[Guest AndrewTS]

He was the lowest drawing WWF Champion of all time. He could actually be even worse this time around, at least from a house show attendance perspective.

Nash only did house shows to prep for the match with HHH. HBK never wrestled at house shows as champ last year (although at the time he was champion people would have mostly had tickets bought in advance).

 

I doubt Nash will be working house shows regularly.

[Guest Big McLargeHuge]

Personally, I do think Sid should get that claim, but most people seem to go with Nash.

I would too, but Nash got an absolute Monster push. Sid was given Vader's spot and they ran with it. That's why we all point to Nash. He was supposed to draw. Sid was keeping the belt warm for Shawn or whoever was supposed to get the title off of him.

[Guest Coffey]

He was supposed to draw.

[Guest Lightning Flik]

I'm posting up an article that I recently obtained from WWE.com and figured I'd like to see your guys reaction to this article.

 

Since everyone is sick of the Kevin Nash threads, I posted it here. Instead of creating a new one.

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The Nash Experiment: Can it Be Saved?

by Brian Solomon

 

OK, kids, let’s talk about this whole Kevin Nash situation. The man has not exactly been receiving the warmest of receptions from the fans, and it’s time to take a look at that.

 

It’s particularly important to look at because the Triple H/Nash rivalry will be continuing with the main event at next month’s Bad Blood pay-per-view. That makes two months in a row (three if you count his six-man tag team match at Backlash) with Mr. Nash at the top of the card. But when a guy who’s supposed to be the babyface is getting chants of “Diesel Sucks!”, you’ve got an issue worth attention.

 

Why are the people responding this way? Why have crowds been turned off to Big Daddy Cool to such a degree that some of them have actually been rooting for Triple H, a man who’s certainly not used to getting too many cheers lately?

 

The answer is simple. Nash is not a serious guy. Nash is a goof. Nash is a funny S.O.B. Yet in the situation he currently finds himself, he has to be super-serious and intense. Folks, Kevin Nash has never been good at super-serious and intense. The man is a born comedian. I mean that not just in terms of sports-entertainment, either. I think the guy could have a career in stand-up if he wanted to. He’s that funny. Anyone who remembers some of his classic WCW promos will have to agree. In particular, I’ll never forget the one where he spoofed Konnan’s ridiculous “Orale!!” catchphrase by shouting “Oil of Olay!!” at the beginning of a promo.

 

As much as I hate to admit it because I don’t usually go in for performers who are “too cool for the room”, Nash is at his best when he’s winking at us, when he’s kind of standing on the outside and laughing along with the audience. Let’s face it, the man’s never gonna win any drama awards, and when anyone tries to be something he’s not, it makes me cringe.

 

Anyway, can we expect fans to immediately buy into a guy who’s been on the shelf forever and suddenly returns to headline three consecutive pay-per-views with the World Heavyweight Champion? It’s not Nash’s fault at all. Would you refuse such an opportunity?

 

Kevin Nash didn’t truly come into his own until he went to WCW and gained enough political power that he was allowed to simply be himself and do whatever the hell he wanted to do. I’m not saying such power needs to be handed over to him, I’m just saying don’t expect to use him and have him be a success while his hands are tied. Because, then all we’ve got is Diesel: Part Two, Seven Years Later. And I don’t think anyone really wants that, do they?

 

Does anyone remember how funny Nash used to be? Hell, for that matter, does anyone remember how funny Triple H used to be, and occasionally still is? Yet, these days, they seem to be trying to outdo each other on who could make the meanest and nastiest faces. Let these guys cut loose. I, for one, think they’d be a lot more entertaining as a team than feuding with each other. Imagine Triple H, Diesel, and Shawn Michaels thrown in for good measure. It would be D-Generation X, but even funnier. That trio could be the comedy highlight of any show.

 

So the people are not responding to Kevin Nash as warmly as some hoped. It’s only because his weaknesses are being accentuated. The same would happen with virtually any performer, regardless of talent, if their weaknesses were accentuated. He’s trying to play it serious. Weakness number one. He’s being put into high-level pay-per-view matches where fans have come to expect top-notch athletic performances of great length, something Nash may not be able to deliver at this point in his career. Weakness number two.

 

Simply put, fans aren’t used to seeing ten minute World title matches that end in disqualification when they order a pay-per-view. But that’s what they got last Sunday night. Now as per Stone Cold Steve Austin’s edict on this week’s Raw, Nash is being put in a Hell in the Cell, of all things. The match made famous by the daredevil tactics of men like Shawn Michaels and Mick Foley. Can Nash be blamed if he is unable to do the kinds of things they did? Of course not. But he’s being put in a position that will invite comparison, and that comparison will not be doing Nash any favors.

 

So I’m making a plea, right here and now: Let Kevin Nash be funny. That’s what makes him a great entertainer. He can still be a bad ass. I’m not talking about turning the guy into Jerry Lewis. But allow him to be the smug, obnoxiously hilarious wise ass we all came to love. Then I guarantee he’ll be the fan favorite he’s supposed to be, and those boos will all disappear. People will simply be laughing too hard.

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My take:

 

I'm finding alternatives to the WWE. As they still wish to promote this guy it seems. Even if he's getting booed because he just flat out sucks.

[Guest Big McLargeHuge]

I couldn't stand funny Nash and his insider references. Inside jokes usually don't work when you are a joke.

 

Serious face or cool heel? I'll take neither, thank you very much. We've already got a guy on RAW who avoids putting anyone over despite clearly not competing at the level he used to. And he can be just as bad as Nash in the 'cool heel' department.

[Guest AndrewTS]

I think that the fact that he was injured so easily and wrestled so little last year helped hurt any interest in him as well.

 

The last time we saw Nash before his big "walk in" return was him laying in a fetal position, screaming like a little bitch after being in the ring 12 seconds.

 

Of course they think he sucks.

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

I don't know what to make of that article. One of THEIR OWN columnists is talking about Nash's unoverness, and actually relates to an undeserving shove to the forefront, as well as DQ endings to PPV title matches being crappy (as we all know), yet he's STILL pushed and is getting a high profile gimmick match. Makes perfect sense to me!

[Guest Big McLargeHuge]

They always do that. In a few days I'm sure that other writer (Andrew whatshisface) will counter with a column titled "Give Nash the Title, a jet, 8 girls and a monkey! Now!" subtitled "Fuck Smarks!".

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

Anthony Cali. I was going to mention that too.

 

Funny thing is, he wrote a pro-Benoit article for last month's WWE magazine. Nearly blew my mind.

 

And Brian Solomon was the one that was against necrophelia and ridding the IC title. He also wrote the "Shut Up and Wrestle" piece. Either they both have severe cases of bipolarism or they're now writing articles and signing with each other's names.

[Guest Austin3164life]

I think the Kliq sympathizer in the WWE mag is Aaron Williams. I recently saw WWE Raw mag for a quick second in the mall (I believe it was Raw), and he wrote a piece on Triple H, saying that he's clearly the best in the WWE as of now. In the past, he usually has been a WWE "I like whatever they tell me" apologist.

 

Oh....um, Nash sucks.