Guest Boo_Bradley Posted September 29, 2003 Report Posted September 29, 2003 Why was Nailz jobbed out to the Bossman, if the plans were for he and Warrior/Taker to fued after SSeries (I think this all was before he attacked Vince)????
cawthon777 Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 All I know is that on the Coliseum Video version of WM9, They showed Kamala with an elephant after the show and said the match was cancelled or something. It was Bigelow, not Kamala.
cawthon777 Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 Why was Nailz jobbed out to the Bossman, if the plans were for he and Warrior/Taker to fued after SSeries (I think this all was before he attacked Vince)???? Nailz lost the blow off match to Bossman but was still promoted as a monster heel. Actually, if you watch Survivor Series - Bossman's win is almost presented as a fluke as Nailz dominated the match and only lost because he sustained the sidewalk slam. He certainly didn't spend much time on the mat after the pin as he no-sold the move pretty quickly. I remember the confrontation Taker and Nailz had during an episode of WWF Superstars. Maybe it was just because I was an 11 year old ubermark, but I saw potential there.
Guest Boo_Bradley Posted October 2, 2003 Report Posted October 2, 2003 When was the 1st 2 hour RAW? March 1997? Did Tug boat ever wrestle as Big Steel Man w/ Slick in late 1989/Early 90 like the Apter Mags claimed?
Der Kommissar Posted October 5, 2003 Report Posted October 5, 2003 I have always wondered, has there ever been a first blood match where the guy accidentally bled hardway? I am especially curious if it ever happened to a guy who was supposed to win the match. Thanks.
Lil' Bitch Posted October 5, 2003 Report Posted October 5, 2003 All I know is that on the Coliseum Video version of WM9, They showed Kamala with an elephant after the show and said the match was cancelled or something. It was Bigelow, not Kamala. I remember the video version though, it was Kamala with an elephant, Harvey was with him (not sure about Kim Chee) and it looked as if they were in a location somewhere made to look like they were in Africa, which was the kayfabe reason of the cancellation. The real reason why? Not sure, but most likely because of time constraints.
Lil' Bitch Posted October 5, 2003 Report Posted October 5, 2003 I have always wondered, has there ever been a first blood match where the guy accidentally bled hardway? I am especially curious if it ever happened to a guy who was supposed to win the match. Thanks. Well, I never actually saw the PPV, but Uncensored 1999, Flair fought Hogan in a First Blood match (I think a Steel Cage was involved also) for the title. Flair ended up winning, but not because of the first blood match rule. I remember Hogan was busted pretty badly (not sure about Flair). My memory's joggy as I didn't watch WCW in 1999, mostly because of the aftermath of the Fingerpoke bullshit. Can somebody elaborate on the First Blood Match?
The Decemberists Posted October 5, 2003 Report Posted October 5, 2003 Well, I never actually saw the PPV, but Uncensored 1999, Flair fought Hogan in a First Blood match (I think a Steel Cage was involved also) for the title. Flair ended up winning, but not because of the first blood match rule. I remember Hogan was busted pretty badly (not sure about Flair). My memory's joggy as I didn't watch WCW in 1999, mostly because of the aftermath of the Fingerpoke bullshit. Can somebody elaborate on the First Blood Match? Flair won by pinfall. Even the announcers weren't sure what was happening. I'd guess that WCW would have said that the rule was you could only be pinned if you were busted, but it was all sort of glossed over on the night. The match was in a cage with barbed wire at the top to prevent whoever the heel was meant to be at the time from escaping.
alfdogg Posted October 5, 2003 Report Posted October 5, 2003 All I know is that on the Coliseum Video version of WM9, They showed Kamala with an elephant after the show and said the match was cancelled or something. It was Bigelow, not Kamala. I remember the video version though, it was Kamala with an elephant, Harvey was with him (not sure about Kim Chee) and it looked as if they were in a location somewhere made to look like they were in Africa, which was the kayfabe reason of the cancellation. The real reason why? Not sure, but most likely because of time constraints. I didn't see Wippleman or Kimchee. I just saw Kamala petting an elephant after the show ended and a message scrolled on the bottom of the screen saying that the match was cancelled. Besides, Kamala was the face, so those two couldn't have been with him anyway.
TheOriginalOrangeGoblin Posted October 5, 2003 Report Posted October 5, 2003 Well, I never actually saw the PPV, but Uncensored 1999, Flair fought Hogan in a First Blood match (I think a Steel Cage was involved also) for the title. Flair ended up winning, but not because of the first blood match rule. I remember Hogan was busted pretty badly (not sure about Flair). My memory's joggy as I didn't watch WCW in 1999, mostly because of the aftermath of the Fingerpoke bullshit. Can somebody elaborate on the First Blood Match? Flair won by pinfall. Even the announcers weren't sure what was happening. I'd guess that WCW would have said that the rule was you could only be pinned if you were busted, but it was all sort of glossed over on the night. The match was in a cage with barbed wire at the top to prevent whoever the heel was meant to be at the time from escaping. Before the match Flair tells the ref Lil Naitch that he should stop the match AT HIS OWN DISCRETION. Thus Lil Naitch doens't stop it for Flair's blood and considers it his discretion to count out Hogan.
Guest Boo_Bradley Posted October 6, 2003 Report Posted October 6, 2003 1> When did Nitro go to 3 hours? When did it return to two hours? 2> How many RAW appearences did Hogan make after winning the belt after WM 9?
MrRant Posted October 6, 2003 Report Posted October 6, 2003 I seem to remember Nitro going to three hours shortly after RAW went live every week. Don't know on the second question.
JHawk Posted October 6, 2003 Report Posted October 6, 2003 1> When did Nitro go to 3 hours? When did it return to two hours? 2> How many RAW appearences did Hogan make after winning the belt after WM 9? Nitro went to three hours at the start of 1998 (January 26 or somewhere in there) and went back to two hours near the end of Russo's first run. I don't think Hogan ever appeared on Raw before dropping the strap to Yokozuna unless it was from the set of Thunder in Paradise (they were filming the pilot around that time).
MrRant Posted October 7, 2003 Report Posted October 7, 2003 1> When did Nitro go to 3 hours? When did it return to two hours? 2> How many RAW appearences did Hogan make after winning the belt after WM 9? Nitro went to three hours at the start of 1998 (January 26 or somewhere in there) and went back to two hours near the end of Russo's first run. I don't think Hogan ever appeared on Raw before dropping the strap to Yokozuna unless it was from the set of Thunder in Paradise (they were filming the pilot around that time). I thought Hogan was working for Turner when Thunder In Paradise was filming.
Slickster Posted October 7, 2003 Report Posted October 7, 2003 1> When did Nitro go to 3 hours? When did it return to two hours? 2> How many RAW appearences did Hogan make after winning the belt after WM 9? Nitro went to three hours at the start of 1998 (January 26 or somewhere in there) and went back to two hours near the end of Russo's first run. I don't think Hogan ever appeared on Raw before dropping the strap to Yokozuna unless it was from the set of Thunder in Paradise (they were filming the pilot around that time). 1. You're right. 2. Well, Hogan didn't appear once in a match on RAW, at any rate. Dunno about interviews, though.
The Decemberists Posted October 8, 2003 Report Posted October 8, 2003 Well, I never actually saw the PPV, but Uncensored 1999, Flair fought Hogan in a First Blood match (I think a Steel Cage was involved also) for the title. Flair ended up winning, but not because of the first blood match rule. I remember Hogan was busted pretty badly (not sure about Flair). My memory's joggy as I didn't watch WCW in 1999, mostly because of the aftermath of the Fingerpoke bullshit. Can somebody elaborate on the First Blood Match? Flair won by pinfall. Even the announcers weren't sure what was happening. I'd guess that WCW would have said that the rule was you could only be pinned if you were busted, but it was all sort of glossed over on the night. The match was in a cage with barbed wire at the top to prevent whoever the heel was meant to be at the time from escaping. Before the match Flair tells the ref Lil Naitch that he should stop the match AT HIS OWN DISCRETION. Thus Lil Naitch doens't stop it for Flair's blood and considers it his discretion to count out Hogan. Ah! Lil Naitch! I'd forgot he was ref. That makes more sense now.
Lil' Bitch Posted October 9, 2003 Report Posted October 9, 2003 When did the Hart / Michaels ladder match take place and was HBK the IC Champion at the time also?
Guest Boo_Bradley Posted October 9, 2003 Report Posted October 9, 2003 We (mostly) all know that Jim Niedhart was given the WHO gimmick as punishment... What was he being punished for?
The Decemberists Posted October 9, 2003 Report Posted October 9, 2003 (edited) When did the Hart / Michaels ladder match take place and was HBK the IC Champion at the time also? It took place on an episode of WWF Prime Time in the Summer of 1992. Monsoon and Lord Alfed commentated. Bret was the Champion and won the match after about 15mins. Edited October 9, 2003 by Morrissey is God
Lil' Bitch Posted October 12, 2003 Report Posted October 12, 2003 I need to know if these matches ever happened, preferably with dates: Flair Vs. Zybysko (sp?) Rocky Maivia Vs. Bret Hart Rocky Maivia Vs. Shawn Michaels Thanks in advance.
Guest Askewniverse Posted October 12, 2003 Report Posted October 12, 2003 I need to know if these matches ever happened, preferably with dates: Flair Vs. Zybysko (sp?) Rocky Maivia Vs. Bret Hart Rocky Maivia Vs. Shawn Michaels Thanks in advance. As far as I know, HBK-Rock has never happened. Bret Hart vs. Rocky Maivia happened on the 3/31/97 episode of Raw. Rocky won by DQ.
Guest Boo_Bradley Posted October 13, 2003 Report Posted October 13, 2003 Larry and Flair's never crossed Larry was in the WWWF from 1976ish-1981ish Flair was in Mid Alantic/NWA/AWA during this period After that 1982-1987 Larry was in the Geogia/AWA Flair was in the NWA Larry was always a Heel, Flair was a Heel a good chunk of that time 1988 Larry Z in NWA w/ Al Perez as Heel Flair was Heel here also 88-90 Larry was in the AWA, Heel Flair was in the NWA Heel, Face, Heel 91 - The 2 teamed up in a War Games match Larry Z retired soon after 1994- Larry returns to fight Jean Paul Levesque and Steve Regal Flair fueds with Vader,etc Both Faces (Flair may have gone Heel toward the end of Larry's return run- dates aren't in front of me) 1995- Larry Z remains retired til late 98, when he fights the NWO- He and Flair are both Faces 2001-03 Larry appears for the WWA and NWA Flair's in the WWF I don't see the possiblity of them facing, unless it was in the late 70's, or mid 80's during pro wrestling USA, but I HIGHLY doubt it...
JHawk Posted October 13, 2003 Report Posted October 13, 2003 I thought Hogan was working for Turner when Thunder In Paradise was filming. For the series, yes, but not the initial two hour pilot. I distinctly remember Hogan talking to Mean Gene about his KOTR match with Yokozuna and going "Why is Hogan making a movie when he's supposed to be defending the title?" And this was when I was still in my mostly mark days.
Guest Boo_Bradley Posted October 13, 2003 Report Posted October 13, 2003 I thought Hogan was working for Turner when Thunder In Paradise was filming. For the series, yes, but not the initial two hour pilot. I distinctly remember Hogan talking to Mean Gene about his KOTR match with Yokozuna and going "Why is Hogan making a movie when he's supposed to be defending the title?" And this was when I was still in my mostly mark days. Are you thinking of the Hulkamania part Whatever video, where Mean Gene interviews Hogan on the set of Suburban Commando, and talks up Lloyd and Duvall as "amazing actors" and talks in his "happy voice" when trying to sell the movie to the kids?
JHawk Posted October 13, 2003 Report Posted October 13, 2003 I thought Hogan was working for Turner when Thunder In Paradise was filming. For the series, yes, but not the initial two hour pilot. I distinctly remember Hogan talking to Mean Gene about his KOTR match with Yokozuna and going "Why is Hogan making a movie when he's supposed to be defending the title?" And this was when I was still in my mostly mark days. Are you thinking of the Hulkamania part Whatever video, where Mean Gene interviews Hogan on the set of Suburban Commando, and talks up Lloyd and Duvall as "amazing actors" and talks in his "happy voice" when trying to sell the movie to the kids? You're seriously making me wish I was taping Raw and Superstars at the time, because it was definitely on the set of Thunder in Paradise. I remember it like it was yesterday. I do remember Hogan showing up on Prime Time Wrestling wearing his costume from Suburban Commando, but I was trying to block that out.
cawthon777 Posted October 13, 2003 Report Posted October 13, 2003 There were several on-set interviews with Hogan prior to the KOTR. Both Beefcake and Jimmy Hart were included.
Lil' Bitch Posted October 15, 2003 Report Posted October 15, 2003 When did the WWE tradition of almost always breaking the Spanish announce table on a PPV start?
cawthon777 Posted October 15, 2003 Report Posted October 15, 2003 When did the WWE tradition of almost always breaking the Spanish announce table on a PPV start? That one is easy. Survivor Series 95 during the closing moments of the Bret / Diesel world title match.
Mystery Eskimo Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 At Starcade 99 (I think), what was the deal with the finish in the Goldberg-Bret Hart world title match- where Piper comes out and calls for the bell when Goldberg is in the Sharpshooter? Was it a heel turn for Bret angle?
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