The Dames 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2003 I received an e-mail from someone who writes for the Oratory and posted an article on June 5th. An excerpt from this article is as such: "How many times have you heard a wrestling fan say that we should all be eternally grateful to Vince McMahon for masterminding the rise of professional wrestling, and bringing it to each of us on such a grand scale? I know I used to express such a sentiment. As a ‘mark’ I used to think that we had McMahon to thank for popularising wrestling to such an extent that it almost became a legitimate mainstream attraction. I used to think that we had McMahon to thank for making wrestling a global phenomenon. I used to think that McMahon was the ‘genius’ responsible for breeding literally millions of wrestling fans. I’d bet that almost all of you would have agreed with me at one time or other, and the vast majority of you would still agree with these statements even now. You know what? You’d be right to agree. That is, you’d be right EXCEPT for a few small details: this is NOT wrestling, the WWE’s impressive globalisation represents more the rise of corporate dominance than it does the rise of wrestling, and these ‘wrestling fans’ are barely fans of wrestling at all: they are merely shallow victims of corporate branding. Welcome to the world in which the corporation is king. ‘The astronomical growth in the wealth and cultural influence of multi-national corporations over the last fifteen years can arguably be traced back to a single, seemingly innocuous idea developed by management theorists in the mid-1980s: that successful corporations must primarily produce brands, as opposed to products,’ (Pg. 3 of No Logo, a book at the forefront of the anti-corporate movement, by Naomi Klein). This is not going to be just another column bashing the WWE, as fun as those always are. This is a column about a shift which started to take shape in the mid eighties when corporations stopped marketing products, and began marketing brands. When the WWE ceased to focus on wrestling (i.e. its product) and instead began focusing on the branding process – a process which has entailed drastic changes in the nature of the wrestling business, and has had dramatic consequences. This has all been brought to my attention by studying sociology, through which it has become clear that the success of the WWE is merely the result of a prevalent trend in wider society today: the rise of the corporation. The WWE is not the most successful wrestling company in the world because it is the best at producing, or even marketing, wrestling. On the contrary, it is simply the best at marketing brands. And yes, this is a bad thing. There are reasons why thousands of protesters have joined the anti-corporate movement in an attempt to bring down these corporations: they prioritise marketing above product, they concentrate on building an emotional tie with consumers so that consumers either don’t notice or simply don’t care that their product is inferior to another, and they end up breeding a fan base of mindless individuals. Rather than instigating the rise of wrestling, McMahon has merely instigated the rise of the WWE. The two are entirely different. One emphasises choice and concentrates on providing the best possible product (i.e. wrestling), the other opposes choice and attempts to breed fans loyal to its brand, rather than hungry for the best product. The WWE’s success lies largely in its ability to breed the mindless. ‘I haven’t the slightest idea what professional wrestling is…we don’t do professional wrestling…we’re in the entertainment industry and we’re about sports-entertainment…we combine all these different elements together and you have this wonderful hybrid of which there’s nothing like it on television,’ (Vince McMahon on Inside Edition, February 1999). McMahon doesn’t promote wrestling. He promotes his own brand of sports entertainment, and tries to build that all important emotional tie with customers by emphasising the underlying themes behind it. Just like Nike might imply that using their products will bring you the athleticism exhibited by its promoters (e.g. Michael Jordan), or Starbucks might like to pretend that there is some wonderfully romantic experience behind drinking a cup of their coffee, the WWE has most recently suggested that viewers will absorb a certain attitude from watching their product. As McMahon himself conceded in his infamous interview with Bob Costas, ‘this is brand building; this is not just television programming and that’s the thing that I think a lot of people, quite frankly, miss’. Although he was referencing the XFL in that instance, his attitude is plain to see: brand building is far more important than producing a good product. History would certainly support him here. Sociologists trace the origins of the branding process back to the economic recession of the eighties, out of which emerged a new type of corporation: one which marketed brands which built an emotional tie with customers to ensure their loyalty to that brand. It is no co-incidence that the WWE began to take off at the same time. Furthermore, I would even argue that it is no co-incidence that a momentary downfall in WWE business really started at the same time as the entire branding process declined for a short while: during the early nineties. Guess when the resurgence of the brand was? The mid nineties, as was the resurgence of wrestling. Now brands have faded again, and I shouldn’t need to tell you that wrestling has, once again, followed their lead and faded with them. Brand building brings business, and with that business comes a degree of loyalty, which might explain why so many mindless fans are not only watching, but genuinely enjoying, some of the typically awful WWE programming today which even dedicated fans cringe at. These are the mindless fans that the WWE has worked so hard to breed. There may not be so many of them around today with the decline of branding but, unfortunately, the mindless still meander among us. These are the fans that cheer the ‘Mr America’ angle, even though any fan with even a semblance of intelligence is all but reduced to tears during his segments with the dastardly evil genius Mr McMahon. These are the fans that cheer the very personification of evil dancing around in a thong, even though Rikishi’s embarrassing act was nauseating when it began three and a half years ago. These are the fans that rejoice in cheering any woman mindless enough to sell her body like a prostitute, and froth at the mouth come the mere sight of bare female skin. These are the fans that cheer any act of patriotism, no matter how blind or nonsensical, as long as it demonstrates a love for one’s country. These are the fans that revel in mindlessness. These are at least partially the result of corporate branding, which has not only kept them hooked to a particular product (the WWE), but has made them refrain from considering unbranded alternatives where the product is actually far superior. I’m not suggesting for a minute that a revival in the popularity of the branding process will miraculously reverse the WWE’s dying fortunes, but it is clear that the rise of the corporation has brought branding and success inextricably together, and the WWE’s turnaround will depend not only on distributing a better product, but also on marketing that product effectively. This is where Vince’s real strength lies. He has never been a great wrestling promoter, as those ‘in the know’ have been saying for years. How many times has he been declared a wrestling genius? Not nearly as many as he has been called a marketing genius. In researching this article I came across one critic commenting that he has to sell the sizzle, because the steak is simply not enough on its own. Historically, this is difficult to argue with. Even Ric Flair locates the difference in wrestling’s popularity today to its relative unpopularity years ago in its marketing, not its product: ‘I think the biggest difference in the business is the marketing, but that entails so much in terms of the characters that the guys build themselves into, the way the company markets them. I don't think there's a marketing concept in the NBA, the NFL, or the NHL that can even compare with the marketing concepts behind the WWE, and the way they promote their wrestlers to the fans, and the show itself,’ (Ric Flair on Channel Surfing with Lisa). So much has changed from when wrestling was genuinely a family owned, family orientated industry, to where it is now, in which everything is ‘in the name of television ratings. It’s in the name of attracting a higher rating, a higher-quality sponsor and ultimately more money. It’s all about that’ (Vince McMahon in an interview with Raw magazine, March 2001). In other words, it’s about the corporate pursuit of capital, which is far removed from its foundation of actual wrestling. Wrestling is all but a forgotten by product of a controversial brand – watch, listen to or read any interview with McMahon, and how much discussion goes on about actual wrestling, and the actual matches themselves? In researching this column I can’t recall seeing any. It’s all about the themes behind the product, the controversial content, the glamorous characters; the list goes on and on until you eventually find wrestling at the bottom of McMahon’s priorities. Wrestling is undeniably a key component to a product, and it can undoubtedly draw business in itself, but the sad truth is that when talking about the WWE, the actual wrestling is often the last thing on the minds of the mainstream. The brand comes first. ‘Within these real and virtual branded edifices, options for unbranded alternatives, for open debate, criticism and uncensored art – for real choice – are facing new and ominous restrictions… the terrible irony of these surrogates, of course, is how destructive they are proving to be to the real thing,’ (No Logo, pgs. 131 and 158). Unfortunately, whilst the heavily branded WWE may have benefited enormously from the rise of the corporation, in its path is an ominous trail of destruction. The key concepts behind McMahon’s sports entertainment brand have often involved vulgarity, a lack of morality, and invariably controversy, which have been absolutely devastating to other wrestling companies. Why? Because the WWE is the biggest ‘wrestling’ organisation around, therefore whatever they do is taken by the Mr Average Joe to be representative of wrestling in general. And so now, thanks to the WWE, wrestling carries a very unwelcome stigma which makes it extremely difficult for any other wrestling company to get a TV deal, to attract the sceptical onlooker, or to even be taken seriously. The lack of real choice has been seriously restricted, so much so that even McMahon himself failed to attain a timeslot in which to showcase WCW when he wanted one in 2001, which is of course what caused the rushed embarrassment that was the invasion angle. Far from being the masterpiece behind the ascension of wrestling to previously unforeseen heights, McMahon has, in many ways, been irrevocably destructive to it. Just as the anti-corporate movement predicts, the rise of the big corporation selling a brand rather than a product is ‘destructive to the real thing’. What chance does a legitimate wrestling promotion like Ring of Honour have anymore? We can only hope that the decline of the brand will be met with a revival of the actual product: wrestling. Not only is it difficult for any other wrestling organisation to be taken seriously nowadays, but the fans themselves have been made a part of the problem. No Logo details that the rise of the corporation produces ‘shallow, depthless identities’, and the WWE can be accused of producing the same mindlessness in their fans. I’m not saying that everyone who is a mindless wrestling fan is a mindless person when they’re removed from a wrestling environment, but moreover that whilst watching WWE programming, the promotion encourages fans to turn their brains off and recoils in horror at the mere suggestion that fans should be able to critically evaluate it, as the WWE’s war on the internet is evidence enough of. Through years of corporate wrestling, fans have by now been conditioned to demand various theatrical elements from a wrestling program in addition to the pure wrestling, so much so that even a supposedly pure wrestling promotion in ROH have resorted to mixing their top class wrestling with often irrelevant entertainment. There is little hope for wrestling as a product in and of itself now. Whether or not that is a bad thing is entirely subjective, but what any objective mind will acknowledge is that what is a bad thing is fans chanting boring during a great wrestling match like Lesnar vs Angle (as they did during parts of their Wrestlemania match), screaming for ‘puppies’ whenever a female performer appears on screen, and calling for mindless violence with weapons whenever a suitable prop is in sight. This has not necessarily been caused by the WWE, but they have harboured these concepts to such an extent that fans now have set expectations when watching wrestling, and are often intolerant of alternatives. In a sense, they have been branded. Society as a whole now features more ‘bandwagon jumping’ than ever, with ‘individuals’ keen to follow the latest trends and conform to what is supposedly fashionable. But once again, they don’t necessarily want the best product. More often than not they don’t listen to the most talented bands, watch the best films or wear the best clothes. On the contrary, fashion dictates their every move and they are so conscious of their own social appearance that they won’t even allow unbranded or unfashionable alternatives a chance, regardless of the quality of their product. This is unavoidably linked with wrestling, whereby ‘wrestling fans’ are keen to jump on the latest bandwagon and support the most fashionable brand, therefore if a new promotion comes along with new ideas or a new approach, ‘fans’ are all too often unwilling to even listen. They have to be seen to be following the best. And for them, given its history and unparalleled media attention, the WWE is the best. Heck, for most of them the WWE is wrestling. These people no longer have an individual identity as wrestling fans. They are merely victims of the branding phenomenon, and forever loyal to the brand that has brought wrestling meaning (for them). WCW had a distinct brand of its own. A brand that brought many customers the same sense of attachment to WCW as the WWE has with a large portion of its own fan base. Is it any wonder that those branded WCW fans are no longer watching? Their brand goes, and with it goes the meaning they attached to wrestling, and since the rise of the corporation has stripped them of their identity, many of them lack even the personal motivation to bother finding another wrestling company. " Now, let's take a look at Paul Votsis' column.... "Just wanted to blurt out a very solemn "Rest in Peace" to "Classy" Freddy Blassie. I am ignorant of him and his era, however I'm not dumb enough to miss the fact that he meant a lot to the WWE and pro-wrestling in general. Rest in peace, Fred. I'm sure everyone who is viewing this piece is wondering what kind of articles will I be producing every week from here on. In case your eyes have been staring at a computer screen for 24 hours (which I'm sure they have), glance quickly at the title of this column, and you'll (hopefully) get the idea. I'm here writing on The Smart Marks to vent any particular frustration or anger I have with the wrestling world in general. I am a very avid wrestling fan and too many times in the past year have I been given plenty of reasons to just disregard pro-wrestling and find another form of entertainment. One of those reasons has been the WWE. No, I'm not going to just blab on about how the WWE is a sinking ship and Triple H is the anti-Christ (that's for sometime down the road). We all have our specific pet peeves with Vince McMahon's multi-million dollar company, and frankly, over the past few months I've been disillusioned over one specific annoyance of mine. How many times have you heard a wrestling fan say that we should all be eternally grateful to Vince McMahon for masterminding the rise of professional wrestling, and bringing it to each of us on such a grand scale? I know I used to express such a sentiment. As a ‘mark’ I used to think that we had McMahon to thank for popularizing wrestling to such an extent that it almost became a legitimate mainstream attraction. I used to think that we had McMahon to thank for making wrestling a global phenomenon. I used to think that McMahon was the ‘genius’ responsible for breeding literally millions of wrestling fans. I’d bet that almost all of you would have agreed with me at one time or other, and the vast majority of you would still agree with these statements even now. You know what? You’d be right to agree. That is, you’d be right EXCEPT for a few small details: this is NOT wrestling, the WWE’s impressive globalization represents more the rise of corporate dominance than it does the rise of wrestling, and these ‘wrestling fans’ are barely fans of wrestling at all: they are merely shallow victims of corporate branding. Welcome to the world in which the corporation is king. ‘The astronomical growth in the wealth and cultural influence of multi-national corporations over the last fifteen years can arguably be traced back to a single, seemingly innocuous idea developed by management theorists in the mid-1980s: that successful corporations must primarily produce brands, as opposed to products,’ (Pg. 3 of No Logo, a book at the forefront of the anti-corporate movement, by Naomi Klein). This is not going to be just another column bashing the WWE, as fun as those always are. This is a column about a shift which started to take shape in the mid eighties when corporations stopped marketing products, and began marketing brands. When the WWE ceased to focus on wrestling (i.e. its product) and instead began focusing on the branding process – a process which has entailed drastic changes in the nature of the wrestling business, and has had dramatic consequences. This has all been brought to my attention by studying sociology, through which it has become clear that the success of the WWE is merely the result of a prevalent trend in wider society today: the rise of the corporation. The WWE is not the most successful wrestling company in the world because it is the best at producing, or even marketing, wrestling. On the contrary, it is simply the best at marketing brands. And yes, this is a bad thing. There are reasons why thousands of protesters have joined the anti-corporate movement in an attempt to bring down these corporations: they prioritise marketing above product, they concentrate on building an emotional tie with consumers so that consumers either don’t notice or simply don’t care that their product is inferior to another, and they end up breeding a fan base of mindless individuals. Rather than instigating the rise of wrestling,! McMahon has merely instigated the rise of the WWE. The two are entirely different. One emphasis choice and concentrates on providing the best possible product (i.e. wrestling), the other opposes choice and attempts to breed fans loyal to its brand, rather than hungry for the best product. The WWE’s success lies largely in its ability to breed the mindless. ‘I haven’t the slightest idea what professional wrestling is…we don’t do professional wrestling…we’re in the entertainment industry and we’re about sports-entertainment…we combine all these different elements together and you have this wonderful hybrid of which there’s nothing like it on television,’ (Vince McMahon on Inside Edition, February 1999). McMahon doesn’t promote wrestling. He promotes his own brand of sports entertainment, and tries to build that all important emotional tie with customers by emphasizing the underlying themes behind it. Just like Nike might imply that using their! products will bring you the athleticism exhibited by its promoters (e .g. Michael Jordan), or Starbucks might like to pretend that there is some wonderfully romantic experience behind drinking a cup of their coffee, the WWE has most recently suggested that viewers will absorb a certain attitude from watching their product. As McMahon himself conceded in his infamous interview with Bob Costas, ‘this is brand building; this is not just television programming and that’s the thing that I think a lot of people, quite frankly, miss’. Although he was referencing the XFL in that instance, his attitude is plain to see: brand building is far more important than producing a good product. History would certainly support him here. Sociologists trace the origins of the branding process back to the economic recession of the eighties, out of which emerged a new type of corporation: one which marketed brands which built an emotional tie with customers to ensure their loyalty to that brand. It is no co-incidence that the WWE began to take off at ! the same time. Furthermore, I would even argue that it is no co-incidence that a momentary downfall in WWE business really started at the same time as the entire branding process declined for a short while: during the early nineties. Guess when the resurgence of the brand was? The mid nineties, as was the resurgence of wrestling. Now brands have faded again, and I shouldn’t need to tell you that wrestling has, once again, followed their lead and faded with them. Brand building brings business, and with that business comes a degree of loyalty, which might explain why so many mindless fans are not only watching, but genuinely enjoying, some of the typically awful WWE programming today which even dedicated fans cringe at. These are the mindless fans that the WWE has worked so hard to breed. There may not be so many of them around today with the decline of branding but, unfortunately, the mindless still meander among us. These are the fans that cheer the ‘Mr America’ angle, even though any fan with even a semblance of intelligence is all but reduced to tears during his segments with the dastardly evil genius Mr. McMahon. These are the fans that cheer the very personification of evil dancing around in a thong, even though Rikishi’s embarrassing act was nauseating when it began three and a half years ago. These are the fans that rejoice in cheering any woman mindless enough to sell her body like a prostitute, and froth at the mouth come the mere sight of bare female skin. These are the fans that cheer any act of patriotism, no matter how blind or nonsensical, as long as it demonstrates a love for one’s country. These are the fans that revel in mindlessness. These are at least partially the result of corporate branding, which has not only kept them hooked to a particular product (the WWE), but has made them refrain from considering unbranded alternatives where the product is actually far superior. So much has changed from when wrestling was genuinely a family owned, family orientated industry, to where it is now, in which everything is ‘in the name of television ratings. It’s in the name of attracting a higher rating, a higher-quality sponsor and ultimately more money. It’s all about that’ (Vince McMahon in an interview with Raw magazine, March 2001). In other words, it’s about the corporate pursuit of capital, which is far removed from its foundation of actual wrestling. Wrestling is all but a forgotten by product of a controversial brand – watch, listen to or read any interview with McMahon, and how much discussion goes on about actual wrestling, and the actual matches themselves? In researching this column I can’t recall seeing any. It’s all about the themes behind the product, the controversial content, the glamorous characters; the list goes on and on until you eventually find wrestling at the bottom of McMahon’s priorities. Wrestling is undeniably a key component to a product, and it can undoubtedly draw business in itself, but the sad truth is that when talking about the WWE, the actual wrestling is often t he last thing on the minds of the mainstream. The brand comes first. Take a look at this excerpt by the WWE. ‘Our operations are organized around two principal activities: 1) The creation, marketing and distribution of our live and televised entertainment, which includes the sale of advertising time on our television programs; and 2) The marketing and promotion of our branded merchandise. In addition, we are working to expand the mainstream potential of the World Wrestling Entertainment brand in domestic and international markets, develop extension businesses off the World Wrestling Entertainment brand, fully develop our internet programs as an entertainment and advertising platform, and develop new programming and sports entertainment brands that leverage WWE's core competencies. [please credit WWE’s corporate website] Whatever happened to wrestling? There isn’t even a mention of it above. So don’t thank McMahon for something he doesn’t even care about himself. You shouldn’t feel obliged to be loyal to the WWE. Don’t join the mindless. Because the idea that McMahon and the WWE provide the best wrestling around is simply ludicrous. There are several alternatives to Vince’s promotion than meets the common fan’s eye. I, myself, have been interested in picking up some ROH (Ring of Honor) tapes, because my mind has been squeezed dry by giving the WWE a chance to make a turnaround. I have invested my own time and money into the WWE, and just for that, I simply do know owe Vince McMahon any kind of false praise. Neither do you. It is the WWE myth that says you do." It is CLEAR that his work was plagarized and I am FURIOUS right now. I'm giving you the chance to defend yourself Paul. You are not banned from the forums because you technically haven't broken any of the rules (although I wish I had made one for this), but you ARE banned from ever writing for TSM ever again. I'm VERY upset right now, but I'm more so disappointed because I honestly felt that we had found a diamond in the rough. We're trying to create a credible site here and something like this can RUIN all of the hard work that everyone here has done. Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Paul is a really cool guy so I'd like to see just what went on before I pass any judgment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Well, that was unexpected. Shame, cause it was a good column, but if it's plagarised then there's no excuse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Retro Rob Report post Posted June 16, 2003 There really is no reasonable explanation that would clear this whole thing up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Yeah, at least I only plagarized a few sentences, and gave a reasonable explanation as to why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dames 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Yeah, at least I only plagarized a few sentences, and gave a reasonable explanation as to why. At least you intended on re-writing it. But now you know your fate should something like that happen again, Kotz. You know I love ya, but business is business. Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted June 16, 2003 That's very disappointing. I liked the column when Will sent it to me to look over and hoped we'd get something more "intelligent" than the usual bitchfests many columns in the IWC have become. Plagiarism is definitely a serious offense, though, and definitely should not be tolerated in any form for any reason. So, a hearty "Fuck you" to plagiarists everywhere, coming from someone whose SD recaps were plagiarized and cross-posted without permission on many websites. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Zoinks... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted June 16, 2003 this latest episode has to be my lowest point ever at TSM. for well over a year now, i have worked with various writers, applicants, etc. to not only help them perfect their writing skills but also help their personality shine through. some of them have become part of the staff and some of them haven't. regardless, i feel like i have improved many of them in some way. i read the wwe myth column before anybody. a writer writing about wrestling applying critical thought. i thought to myself "this has to be too good to be real". turns out it was. i trusted someone to write from the heart, not to cut and paste from the oratory. i even asked paul TWICE~! to make sure that he was not plagiarizing any passages and he assured me he wasn't. he lied to me personally. paul had confided that he thought our very own matt ditaliano wasn't a very good writer. i told him that you can make up for questionable grammar skills with heart and personality in a column. as far as i can tell, matt ditaliano is not a plagiarist. to me, that makes matt ditaliano a greater writer than anyone who copies someone else's thoughts and beliefs. i am disgusted, discouraged and disillusioned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Retro Rob Report post Posted June 16, 2003 So, a hearty "Fuck you" to plagiarists everywhere, coming from someone whose SD recaps were plagiarized and cross-posted without permission on many websites. Yeah, I'll second that. One day I googled my name and "Confidential". You'd be shocked at how many websites my work has appeared on over the last year. Fucking pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest R2DFooster McSockman Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Darn. What's Paul's screen-name here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted June 16, 2003 AustinHHH3164Life or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted June 16, 2003 I did the same thing with my SD reports, Rob. There were three pages of Google hits that were basically cut-and-paste jobs (presumably from LOP), none with my permission (which I would have granted if asked). It's definitely annoying and disillusioning, and it's a real shame TSM had to be associated with such a conscienceless shithead in this case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Retro Rob Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Since other columnists have been posting their reports (way) before me, my work hasn't been getting used as much. Speaking of Confidential, I'm going to post it tomorrow since a shitload of content already went up tonight and I don't want to bog it down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TonyJaymzV1 Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Man, I'd rather write subpar than copy someone else's great stuff. Atleast your guys stuff is good enough to plagirise oh and Rob, you going to do anymore tape reviews? I remember that great SMW tape you did a couple months ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Retro Rob Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Well I've done a handful of tapes over the last few months, once my schedule starts to slow down I should be able to pump more out in a shorter span of time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crucifixio Jones Report post Posted June 17, 2003 As a writer, specifically a sporadic contributor to the main page here at TSM, I second Tom's opinion. (or rather, third it in this case) If you are ever lucky enough to have the opportunity to write for a website, even though it's honestly not that big of a deal, at least have the integrity to post your own work. Sure, it's not the end of the world but that's the exact reason why there's no excuse to plagarize. No writing "gig" is so important that your own thoughts, ideas and words aren't "good enough." No one here (with the exception of myself) is the best writer in the world. But I'd rather be accused of being a hack with no talent than to be the guy who lies and steals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bravesfan Report post Posted June 17, 2003 Here's a link to the Oratory article... So much has changed from when wrestling was genuinely a family owned, family orientated industry, to where it is now, in which everything is ‘in the name of television ratings. It’s in the name of attracting a higher rating, a higher-quality sponsor and ultimately more money. It’s all about that’ (Vince McMahon in an interview with Raw magazine, March 2001). In other words, it’s about the corporate pursuit of capital, which is far removed from its foundation of actual wrestling. Wrestling is all but a forgotten by product of a controversial brand – watch, listen to or read any interview with McMahon, and how much discussion goes on about actual wrestling, and the actual matches themselves? In researching this column I can’t recall seeing any. It’s all about the themes behind the product, the controversial content, the glamorous characters; the list goes on and on until you eventually find wrestling at the bottom of McMahon’s priorities. Wrestling is undeniably a key component to a product, and it can undoubtedly draw business in itself, but the sad truth is that when talking about the WWE, the actual wrestling is often t he last thing on the minds of the mainstream. The brand comes first. Take a look at this excerpt by the WWE. ‘Our operations are organized around two principal activities: 1) The creation, marketing and distribution of our live and televised entertainment, which includes the sale of advertising time on our television programs; and 2) The marketing and promotion of our branded merchandise. In addition, we are working to expand the mainstream potential of the World Wrestling Entertainment brand in domestic and international markets, develop extension businesses off the World Wrestling Entertainment brand, fully develop our internet programs as an entertainment and advertising platform, and develop new programming and sports entertainment brands that leverage WWE's core competencies. [please credit WWE’s corporate website] Whatever happened to wrestling? There isn’t even a mention of it above. So don’t thank McMahon for something he doesn’t even care about himself. You shouldn’t feel obliged to be loyal to the WWE. Don’t join the mindless. Because the idea that McMahon and the WWE provide the best wrestling around is simply ludicrous. There are several alternatives to Vince’s promotion than meets the common fan’s eye. I, myself, have been interested in picking up some ROH (Ring of Honor) tapes, because my mind has been squeezed dry by giving the WWE a chance to make a turnaround. I have invested my own time and money into the WWE, and just for that, I simply do know owe Vince McMahon any kind of false praise. Neither do you. It is the WWE myth that says you do." The parts in Votsis' column which you DIDN'T highlight in bold (QUOTED ABOVE), are plagarized from this same article also, except in this case he uses creative license to insert his own words and delete parts where the article dragged. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted June 17, 2003 The original article is good. Maybe you should consider getting that Tyler guy to write a column. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Austin3164life Report post Posted June 17, 2003 To all of those that read the article and thought I did a great job, the gig i s up, and now I'm exposed. I realize the lazy-ass thing I did by plagarizing, and the stupid thing I did by crediting myself with it's creation. I'm sorry for all the forum members who read the column and credited me. To Damian and the rest of the writing staff, I owe a huge apology to. There's no excuse for my being a lazy ass to take someone else's material and use it as my own, and lie to you guys as well. I realize there's no way this kind of thing can possibly be forgiven, and I am deeply sorry for causing this kind of trouble for TSM. I have been too busy with my personal life and I made a quick decision, which was obviously the wrong decision to make, and that's not only inexcusable but unforgivable. I understand any kind of backlash that I might get for this wrondoing that I've done, and I deserve that and more. I feel as if I've hit rock bottom because I've hurt the guys that I am friendly with (Dames, Will, Matt, Jared, and a lot of other forum members), and for that fact alone, I cannot say enough apologies to cover the fact that I plagiarized. Since I have caused myself shame and then the entire TSM body shame, I no longer feel I should post here, because this ordeal tarnishes any kind of reputation I've built for myself here. Again, I'm sorry for the strife I've caused by my fuck-up, and I'll have to live with the burden of guilt alone, and me posting here like nothing happened will not do anyone, especially myself, any good. To all of those that I met and I became good friends with, thanks for being the guys that you are, and I'm sorry for the letdown that this has caused you guys. I don't think I deserve to be a distinguished member of this place, so to try and possibly justify (I can't) what I've done, I have to leave this place all together. No, this isn't out of sympathy either, because there's no place for that and I don't deserve it. I just figured I at least owe an apology before I go. I'm sorry for everything. Goodbye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted June 17, 2003 Good riddance. Cocksucker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted June 17, 2003 Boo-Hoo. I wouldn't mind if you still posted here. I never thought much of you to begin with nor do I of many John Cena fans but I wouldn't mind you posting here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted June 17, 2003 Flaming outside the fucking flaming folder. I request a ban, please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted June 17, 2003 $20 says he'll be back in a few days under another name. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted June 17, 2003 Flaming outside the fucking flaming folder. I request a ban, please. Who's flaming? I hope you don't mean me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted June 17, 2003 Flaming outside the fucking flaming folder. I request a ban, please. Who's flaming? I hope you don't mean me. Not you. I was referring to DrTom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crucifixio Jones Report post Posted June 17, 2003 Good riddance. Cocksucker. Damn, harsh much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JHawk Report post Posted June 17, 2003 Actually, I think he was referring to Dr. Tom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted June 17, 2003 To all of those that read the article and thought I did a great job, the gig i s up, and now I'm exposed. I realize the lazy-ass thing I did by plagarizing, and the stupid thing I did by crediting myself with it's creation. I'm sorry for all the forum members who read the column and credited me. To Damian and the rest of the writing staff, I owe a huge apology to. There's no excuse for my being a lazy ass to take someone else's material and use it as my own, and lie to you guys as well. I realize there's no way this kind of thing can possibly be forgiven, and I am deeply sorry for causing this kind of trouble for TSM. I have been too busy with my personal life and I made a quick decision, which was obviously the wrong decision to make, and that's not only inexcusable but unforgivable. I understand any kind of backlash that I might get for this wrondoing that I've done, and I deserve that and more. I feel as if I've hit rock bottom because I've hurt the guys that I am friendly with (Dames, Will, Matt, Jared, and a lot of other forum members), and for that fact alone, I cannot say enough apologies to cover the fact that I plagiarized. Since I have caused myself shame and then the entire TSM body shame, I no longer feel I should post here, because this ordeal tarnishes any kind of reputation I've built for myself here. Again, I'm sorry for the strife I've caused by my fuck-up, and I'll have to live with the burden of guilt alone, and me posting here like nothing happened will not do anyone, especially myself, any good. To all of those that I met and I became good friends with, thanks for being the guys that you are, and I'm sorry for the letdown that this has caused you guys. I don't think I deserve to be a distinguished member of this place, so to try and possibly justify (I can't) what I've done, I have to leave this place all together. No, this isn't out of sympathy either, because there's no place for that and I don't deserve it. I just figured I at least owe an apology before I go. I'm sorry for everything. Goodbye. To All Posters, I have decided to take my ball and move on to another forum. There are many reasons why I have reached this conclusion. Part of it is the amount of elitism that has being circulating lately, part of it is the number of newbies who get respected by post whoring, part of it is the people who think you matter only when you reach 1000, part of it is just because I want to try something new. I'm not knocking the entirety of this forum, it's just that I have been here for just about 11 months, I feel as if I have not gained anything out of my stay here. I have met some very cool people, and I have had some fun sometimes, but the fun stops here I guess. This board is becoming inter-competitive against itself and its posters, that I need a forum where I can breathe. I just wanted to post this thread to give a formal farewell because I didn't want to leave on a bad note. Besides meeting cool people, one thing I can say that I liked from this forum is the fact that I didn't get flamed for supporting Austin in his walkout, or for being a Triple H mark. I'd just like to say thanks for a very bumpy yet very interesting ride. Perhaps I'll comeback, but that's too distant to decide as of yet. Take care guys, and good posting. --Austinhhh4life-- Wow- This assfuck sure likes to leave the forums a lot eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted June 17, 2003 OMG TOO MANY FLAMERS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites