Guest Edwin MacPhisto Posted June 18, 2003 Report Posted June 18, 2003 I could have sworn there was a big Pink Floyd thread around here somewhere, but the search engine gave me no luck. Maybe it's just the interspersed thoughts that pop up frequently in our other threads. Anyway: I've got some cash and a musical urge. Early Pink Floyd, with the exception of "Echoes" and "Interstellar Overdrive," is an absolute mystery to me. I'm familiar with Dark Side and Wish You Were Here, but almost nothing before that. There are at least four or five people here always dropping praise for the earlier albums, but I don't know where to begin. Lead me, o wise ones. In the meantime, I'll be listening to "William, It Was Really Nothing."
Your Paragon of Virtue Posted June 18, 2003 Report Posted June 18, 2003 I only have Animals, which is at least pretty insightful lyrically. Sorry I can't help, but I too was looking to discover some Floyd.
rising up out of the back seat-nuh Posted June 18, 2003 Report Posted June 18, 2003 Piper At the Gates Of Dawn (the first album, which includes Interstellar Overdrive) is a good starting point, but very different from DSOTM / WYWH era floyd. Meddle (including Echoes) is probably your best bet if you like those albums and want to discover something earlier. Also, try the Live In Pompeii video if you an find it, as it contains there best pre-DSOTM stuff live and contains a bit more of an edge than the recorded stuff. However, don't expect to find anything better than "William It Was Really Nothing" on those albums. That song rocks
Guest La Parka Es Mi Papa Posted June 18, 2003 Report Posted June 18, 2003 Piper At The Gates Of Dawn, Meddle, and Ummagumma are all must-owns.
Guest nl5xsk1 Posted June 18, 2003 Report Posted June 18, 2003 If it wasn't stealing, I'd advise using Kazaa or WinMx and download a boatload of songs, and buy what you like the most. I'm a fan of Ummagumma (half live songs, half "solo" projects that border on the abstract), Animals, Meddle, and Saucerful of Secrets, but I prefer the older more eclectic stuff to the full concept albums like DSOTM and the Wall. And put me down as someone who agrees with sticking with the Smiths. I listen to them a lot more than I do Pink Floyd.
Guest mesepher Posted June 18, 2003 Report Posted June 18, 2003 Relics is a neat little compiliation. You should check that one out. It has a few songs that are on other albums, HOWEVER, what makes it cool is the addition of unreleased songs found nowhere else including a studio version of "Careful with that Axe, Eugene" definitely rent the Pompeii tape... AWESOME, AWESOME stuff on that one!
B. Brian Brunzell Posted June 18, 2003 Report Posted June 18, 2003 I see a thread about The Floyd and I'm hooked. Here's some stuff for ya, Edwin: Obscured by Clouds Ummagumma A Saucerful of Secrets The Piper at the Gates of Dawn Tonight Let's All Make Love in London Zabriskie Point More If you can find it, there's a import cd (if you're American, that is) called Anthology I. It contains the first recordings as The Pink Floyd Sound from 1965, with Bob Close as the second guitarist. Also, check out some barrett solo stuff. It's an acquired taste, but who knows? You may like it.
Guest HellSpawn Posted June 18, 2003 Report Posted June 18, 2003 I got the 2 cds Best of, it was enough for me. Pink Floyd is NOT for Everyone.
Guest The Czech Republic Posted June 18, 2003 Report Posted June 18, 2003 I got the 2 cds Best of, it was enough for me. Pink Floyd is NOT for Everyone. I tried getting a girl that was all into Christina Aguilera and shit to listen to some Floyd and I don't think she appreciated its greatness. Anyhow, how do you fellas (Mole's gone so Ill take it) feelabout the vocals for Pink Floyd? Dave, Roger, Rick, or Syd? They're all awesome in a way.
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted June 18, 2003 Report Posted June 18, 2003 Early Floyd is some incredible stuff, really. They're also one of the few bands where I wouldn't recommend listening to their first album first. I think it's a good idea to ease into Syd Barrett material, as it's, well..different. My favorite Floyd recordings, and stuff that's good to check out first. The site linked is damn good place to start if you're curious about the band. 1. Meddle 2. Animals 3. Atom Heart Mother 4. Ummagumma
rising up out of the back seat-nuh Posted June 18, 2003 Report Posted June 18, 2003 The "Best Of" compilation is remarkably shit. That is all.
Guest BAR Posted June 18, 2003 Report Posted June 18, 2003 (edited) I definately prefer Waters, but I recently got Gilmour's live DVD and it's amazing, especially the two Shine On's. Best album: Wish You Were Here. Live At Pompeii will be released on DVD later this year, but get the video anyway, it's great. Edited June 25, 2003 by BAR
Guest saturnmark4life Posted June 18, 2003 Report Posted June 18, 2003 Oh shit, here i was saying 'I know it's my day off, but I'm not gonna blow all my money on albums again.' brb. *sigh*.
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted June 18, 2003 Report Posted June 18, 2003 So anyway, I just re-listened to The Final Cut, and I think I liked it even less than the last time I heard it. The whole thing makes me think of the iffy material on The Wall, only slowed down way too much, and mellowed out way too much. Probably one of their worst efforts, in my book.
B. Brian Brunzell Posted June 18, 2003 Report Posted June 18, 2003 I love The Final Cut. I think it's their best album. I love the theme, the music, the lyrics, etc. Waters' nasal whining is the only thing I don't like about the album. Gilmour has some great solos on the album as well. As for who my favorite vocalist of The Floyd is, well, I'm a Syd mark.
rising up out of the back seat-nuh Posted June 18, 2003 Report Posted June 18, 2003 Hmmm, It's definately an aquired taste. I wouldn't really expect anyone else to like it. I still think that The Final Cut has a completely unique feel to it. It just sounds so desolate. And that's a damn good thing. It's better than the over-produced shit of The Wall, ar the prog-noodlings of the earlier stuff. The song The Final Cut is one of the most emotional songs I have ever heard. It's the sound of Roger slowly losing his mind.
Guest goodhelmet Posted June 18, 2003 Report Posted June 18, 2003 check it... go here first... http://www.allmusic.com look under pink floyd and just download everything you haven't heard from kazaa. even though i have all of the pink floyd releases, i didn't feel like copying every one of them to the computer so i just used kazaa. personal belief- -the syd barrett stuff is highly overrated and b-grade pop songs with only a couple of exceptions. -meddle is an excellent album. -atom's heart mother must be listened to when high. if you listen to it sober, it will do nothig for you. sidenote... "william it was really nothing" is the best song ever. not because it is my only theme song along with "big bad bill is sweet william now". (disclaimer- the above is not really the best song ever)
Guest La Parka Es Mi Papa Posted June 19, 2003 Report Posted June 19, 2003 William, It Was Really Nothing is probably better than any post-Animals Floyd.
Guest Cancer Marney Posted June 19, 2003 Report Posted June 19, 2003 The Division Bell, chrissakes, get The Division Bell. I can't believe no one's mentioned it yet. High Hopes and Wearing the Inside Out are both fantastic.
Guest La Parka Es Mi Papa Posted June 19, 2003 Report Posted June 19, 2003 I am going to suggest that you all avoid The Division Bell at all costs.
Guest whatitistoburn Posted June 19, 2003 Report Posted June 19, 2003 And whatever they tell you, under no circumstances do you buy "A Momentary Lapse of Reason" because that cd is pure shit.
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted June 19, 2003 Report Posted June 19, 2003 Don't bother with latter-day Floyd at all until you get all the early stuff, and some live material.
B. Brian Brunzell Posted June 20, 2003 Report Posted June 20, 2003 (edited) I havent' listened to A Momentary Lapse of Reason for quite some time. Isn't "Sorrow" on that album? I listen to Atom Heart Mother sober all the time. It's one of my 3 favorite albums by The Floyd. The title track, "If", you can't go wrong there. Edited June 20, 2003 by B. Brian Brunzell
Guest The Czech Republic Posted June 20, 2003 Report Posted June 20, 2003 I am going to suggest that you all avoid The Division Bell at all costs. I am going to discredit that suggestion. High Hopes, Wearing the Inside Out, and Keep Talking are fantastic songs.
Guest mesepher Posted June 20, 2003 Report Posted June 20, 2003 -the syd barrett stuff is highly overrated and b-grade pop songs with only a couple of exceptions. Outside of the hardcore fans who know a bit of the bands history, I don't know anyone who holds Syd in high esteem nor his music, so I'm unsure of how that makes his music overrated. I havent' listened to A Momentary Lapse of Reason for quite some time. Isn't "Sorrow" on that album? yes... which automatically makes it good. Momentary Lapse has a lot of good tracks on it, its just not the norm for a Floyd album. When it was released one of the producers (I believe) said, "This doesn't sound a fucking thing like Pink Floyd." atom's heart mother must be listened to when high. if you listen to it sober, it will do nothig for you. ummmm. whatever man. One thing I truly enjoyed about the Floyd albums is that they are all completely different. No two albums are the same. I also hold the belief that "Obscurred by Clouds" would have been huge if "Dark Side" was not released shortly after.
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted June 20, 2003 Report Posted June 20, 2003 Floyd was incredibly diverse with their albums early on. The later stuff, while more focused, loses that feel of improvisation and experimentation that made the stuff fantastic. It's still good progressive rock for the most part, but I think it sounds kind of "samey." Especially The Final Cut.
Guest mesepher Posted June 20, 2003 Report Posted June 20, 2003 Floyd was incredibly diverse with their albums early on. The later stuff, while more focused, loses that feel of improvisation and experimentation that made the stuff fantastic. It's still good progressive rock for the most part, but I think it sounds kind of "samey." Especially The Final Cut. well, you have Roger to blame for that one (The Final Cut)... not Dave.
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted June 20, 2003 Report Posted June 20, 2003 Of course, but it's not so much a matter of "blaming" anyone. I think it's more a matter of them being a band for such a long time, compounded with conflict, and running out of ideas.
B. Brian Brunzell Posted June 20, 2003 Report Posted June 20, 2003 You can't really say that "they" ran out of ideas for The Final Cut when it was all Waters. Although The Floyd releasing an anti-war album was not something I ever thought would happen.
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted June 20, 2003 Report Posted June 20, 2003 Not just TFC, though. I think a lot of their later material has that problem.
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