Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted June 24, 2003 R.I.P. Kane (October 5, 1997 - June 23, 2003) Do not worry. Although his draw and crowd heat will be sorely missed, his presence in the uppercard will remain forever. HOSSES~ never die, they just get pushed in six months. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BDC Report post Posted June 24, 2003 Yeah, say goodbye to Glen Jacobs' career now and forever. Hell, even my girlfriend, a HHH mark blew the whole damn thing off after tonight. She is still a fan of one guy on Raw (RVD) and now says that HHH can go to Hell and catch a cactus in the ass on the way. Let's see, in my book, reasons to watch Raw: RVD Booker T Jericho Reasons to watch Smackdown: Rey Eddie Brock (I like him when he's not fighting Big Show) Benoit Rhyno Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Slapnuts00 Report post Posted June 24, 2003 Yeah I must say, keeping him unmasked would be a HUGE mistake since his mask is his whole character and there's no way they can continuously makeup him or expect us just to "forget" his burns. Hopefully he puts the mask back on, but with WWE I doubt it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted June 24, 2003 I don't think it would be a big stretch to say: 1. in two weeks this never happened. 2. No more Kane on Raw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted June 24, 2003 It wasn't what they did with Kane's unmasking that bothers me. Pretending he wore a wig all this time is actually kind of interesting. It's that they don't have ONE person who goes over the RAW script (Gerwitz, Hayes, Steph, Vince) that has the common sense to see that they are blowing the whole thing on a meaningless 20 second clip that could have easily been replaced with something else. I love the WWE. The harder they try the funnier it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest swilk Report post Posted June 24, 2003 Kane sorta reminded me of Vader when we saw his new hair. I thought it was Nailz. It's been 10 years....and Vince is bringing back the legends. First Hogan, then Piper, and now Nailz! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 24, 2003 He's going to totally shave his head, join Evolution taking Batista's place(he's now "evolved"), and be the new version of Nathan Jones, just with talent. Who? Where? When? Pretending he wore a wig all this time is actually kind of interesting. I'm confused as to how the wig stayed perfectly straight through six years of various headshots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted June 24, 2003 That's what makes it interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted June 24, 2003 Maybe he just shaved it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 24, 2003 Something alot of people haven't quite realized. I just caught on to it myself. Add Kane to the list of long haired guys who had to get it cut because they looked too much like HHH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Astro7x 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2003 Kane could have pulled a Joe Dirt, and said that he is missing his face, and his mask actually bonded to his face in the healing process! I'm just glad that WWE didn't get him to fuck up his face for life with Tattoos or something... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted June 24, 2003 I seriously wish I had my own personal JR who could sit and watch Raw every week with me, I'd make him say stuff like that. Just to watch RAW with? Come on, you could take your personal JR anywhere.... at work: "OH MY GOD HE'S LATE FOR WORK!! WHAT A POMPOUS ASS, TO THINK THAT HE CAN BY GAWD STROLL IN HERE 17 MINUTES LATE! OH THE HORROR!" at the store: "$10.99 FOR A BOX OF CONDOMS! WHAT IN THE HELL IS GOING ON?!? 7-11 WILL NEVER, EVER, BE THE SAAAAAAME!" The possibilities are endless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted June 24, 2003 My Mom, both an HHH mark (because of his roided body and his 2000 run) and a Kane mark (because he displays more moves and has better morale than most hosses) saw the show tonight. Her comments: 1st: "No, no, put it back on! Save it for pay per view!" 2nd: "He looks like Undertaker." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LaParkaMarka Report post Posted June 24, 2003 I seriously wish I had my own personal JR who could sit and watch Raw every week with me, I'd make him say stuff like that. Just to watch RAW with? Come on, you could take your personal JR anywhere.... at work: "OH MY GOD HE'S LATE FOR WORK!! WHAT A POMPOUS ASS, TO THINK THAT HE CAN BY GAWD STROLL IN HERE 17 MINUTES LATE! OH THE HORROR!" at the store: "$10.99 FOR A BOX OF CONDOMS! WHAT IN THE HELL IS GOING ON?!? 7-11 WILL NEVER, EVER, BE THE SAAAAAAME!" The possibilities are endless "BAH GAWD, that bastard just cut us off! Damn him, and damn his black soul to HELLLLLLLL" God, listening to him trying to sell the STacy/Test/Steiner thing was just sad. When did JR completely fall apart? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted June 24, 2003 I seriously wish I had my own personal JR who could sit and watch Raw every week with me, I'd make him say stuff like that. Just to watch RAW with? Come on, you could take your personal JR anywhere.... at work: "OH MY GOD HE'S LATE FOR WORK!! WHAT A POMPOUS ASS, TO THINK THAT HE CAN BY GAWD STROLL IN HERE 17 MINUTES LATE! OH THE HORROR!" at the store: "$10.99 FOR A BOX OF CONDOMS! WHAT IN THE HELL IS GOING ON?!? 7-11 WILL NEVER, EVER, BE THE SAAAAAAME!" The possibilities are endless Yeah but don't take your personal JR to a grandmother's funeral, when he yells "THAT BAH GAWD JEZEBEL DAMN HER SOUL TO HELL" in the middle of the eulogy someone's gonna be pissed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 24, 2003 When Heyman left... The second King came back...Ross was total shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Mighty Damaramu Report post Posted June 24, 2003 I work delivering pizzas. Imagine me taking him along for the ride..... "What!? You refuse to pay! BY GAWD WE HAD 1 MINUTE LEFT! GIVE US THE MONEY! DAMN YOU CUSTOMER! DAMN YOU AND YOUR NON-PAYING ASS TO HELL!" *looking for a house* "Where the hell is Ridge Circle?" "I DON'T KNOW! IT MUST BE IN THE FIERY PITS OF HELL!" "Umm...yeah....just read the map...." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 24, 2003 Hate to go off topic...but I never got Piazza delivery people..HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU REMEMBER all these placeS? Does Dominoes have Navagation Systems now or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fook_Hing_Ho Report post Posted June 24, 2003 "BAH GAWD!! THAT SOB WILL DESTROY US ALL WITH HELL, FIRE AND BRIMSTONE!!!" "Relax JR. It's just a cigarette." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted June 24, 2003 Hate to go off topic...but I never got Piazza delivery people..HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU REMEMBER all these placeS? Does Dominoes have Navagation Systems now or something? well they give you a map dude. Plus people who work at a pizza place generally live nearby. I will leave the Piazza joke for someone else, however. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 5_moves_of_doom Report post Posted June 24, 2003 The partially shaved head look kind of reminded me of Sloth from the Goonies. Now there's a guy they should sign ASAP. He's dead. And has anyone read Animal Farm? ...The pigs in that distort and change the past just like the WWE does! Vince = Napolian! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Monday Night Jericho Report post Posted June 24, 2003 This is from Percy Pringle's official site and thought that it may be an interesting read: Notwithstanding my own prejudiced feelings concerning The Kane character, I will be very disappointed if tonight's RAW Nielson Rating didn't rise. I felt that there was a definite interest among WWE fans in the outcome of The Main Event. Kane versus HHH, mask versus The World Championship. Kane's string of bad luck began long before he broke the mirror on the wall of Madison Square Gardens this evening. Admit it or not, the primary factor in Kane's creation, and the Paul Bearer character as well, is none other than The Undertaker. Kane and Paul Bearer were always around only to support The Undertaker character. When The UT evolved into The American Bad Ass, the writing was on the wall for Kane and Bearer. It was accepted that the Bearer character was always disposable from the get-go. However, Kane was always the superior athlete, and had the potential to be nothing but pure box office dollars. With Mark Calaway's big boot resting on the bar, Kane had a snowball's chance in hell of any type of character elevation. Glen Jacobs was indeed treated like the red headed stepchild, while big brother got the big paydays and the glory. This is one time, that I hope I am dead wrong. I sincerely feel that this is not a new beginning for Kane; it is the continuance of the road to the end. My website and message board was filled with Kane fans this evening, hoping that the face they saw under the black and red mask wasn't Glen Jacobs. Unfortunately, it was Glen, without a doubt. The Kane character has been used, abused, and kicked to the side, by writers that didn't have a damn clue of what to do with him. So tonight, they took the easy way out. The real sad part about it all is that Glen doesn't deserve any of it. He is 100% a company man, and will do anything they ask of him. He is dedicated to protecting our industry, and has always done everything that he could to help the younger guys climbing the ladder behind him. He is a family man, a true athlete, and a friend. I always try to give the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they have some super kayfabe plan to raise Kane. I hope so, because tonight I feel just like many of the rest of you. ROBBED! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Super Leather Report post Posted June 24, 2003 I seriously wish I had my own personal JR who could sit and watch Raw every week with me, I'd make him say stuff like that. Just to watch RAW with? Come on, you could take your personal JR anywhere.... at work: "OH MY GOD HE'S LATE FOR WORK!! WHAT A POMPOUS ASS, TO THINK THAT HE CAN BY GAWD STROLL IN HERE 17 MINUTES LATE! OH THE HORROR!" at the store: "$10.99 FOR A BOX OF CONDOMS! WHAT IN THE HELL IS GOING ON?!? 7-11 WILL NEVER, EVER, BE THE SAAAAAAME!" The possibilities are endless I'll say. I'd love to have my personal JR go see live bands with me and hang out with my friends when we get stoned. "BAH GAWD! DAMN THAT OPENING BAND! DAMN THEIR SOULS STRAIGHT TO HELL!" "THAT LOUSY S.O.B. WON'T MATCH ON THE BOWL! BAH GAWD!!" Okay, maybe those weren't that funny. I seriously have not watched RAW in probably a year and it was pretty bad then. It sounds so much worse now. I have honestly never liked Kane (and knew exactly who he was the minute he debuted in said character), but I could watch the guy at least. There's no point to him without the mask, and right about now he should be thinking like Kevin Nash: where the hell am I going from here? On other people's posts... I was stoked that someone on here said that their mom was watching too and is a fan. My mom bought me Piper's book and SEX, LIES, AND HEADLOCKS and wants to borrow them from me. Pizza delivery places (or at least the one I worked for) should have maps of the general areas that they deliver to posted somewhere in the shop. Their areas of delivery are generally not going to be that large and it'd theoretically be easier to remember routes to take that are quicker to get to a particular location, and the addresses are written and posted somewhere on the box that is easy for the driver to spot before taking off to the next house. If you deliver pizzas long enough you actually should be able to know every intersection like the back of your hand...according to my friend Dean, that is. More on my not having seen RAW in a long time...like I said, it was pretty bad then and it sounds like it's a million times worse now. I read stuff on this site and Wrestlezone (I hate popups) about what's going on and cringe. Why I haven't seen RAW or WWE in general lately is a different story, but now I find solace in watching ECW and FMW DVDs and the first BEST OF THE WWF tape while wishing I could afford more. It's funny to me that I'd rather watch matches and wrestlers from when I was a child than subject myself to what's on television now. I guess part of me wants to remember Hulk Hogan in a nice way and just don't want to go through the pain of seeing of seeing truly amazing wrestlers, many of which are revered on this board, not getting the opportunities they deserve. It really does cause me great pain, for wrestling has been one of my favorite obsessions since I was in elementary school and I can't stop reading the silly "kayfabe" mags like PWI and Inside Wrestling either. And to think that one of the reasons I wanted to live in a certain part of town and get cable was to be able to catch both RAW and SMACKDOWN and get my fix... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2003 This is from Percy Pringle's official site and thought that it may be an interesting read: Notwithstanding my own prejudiced feelings concerning The Kane character, I will be very disappointed if tonight's RAW Nielson Rating didn't rise. I felt that there was a definite interest among WWE fans in the outcome of The Main Event. Kane versus HHH, mask versus The World Championship. Kane's string of bad luck began long before he broke the mirror on the wall of Madison Square Gardens this evening. Admit it or not, the primary factor in Kane's creation, and the Paul Bearer character as well, is none other than The Undertaker. Kane and Paul Bearer were always around only to support The Undertaker character. When The UT evolved into The American Bad Ass, the writing was on the wall for Kane and Bearer. It was accepted that the Bearer character was always disposable from the get-go. However, Kane was always the superior athlete, and had the potential to be nothing but pure box office dollars. With Mark Calaway's big boot resting on the bar, Kane had a snowball's chance in hell of any type of character elevation. Glen Jacobs was indeed treated like the red headed stepchild, while big brother got the big paydays and the glory. This is one time, that I hope I am dead wrong. I sincerely feel that this is not a new beginning for Kane; it is the continuance of the road to the end. My website and message board was filled with Kane fans this evening, hoping that the face they saw under the black and red mask wasn't Glen Jacobs. Unfortunately, it was Glen, without a doubt. The Kane character has been used, abused, and kicked to the side, by writers that didn't have a damn clue of what to do with him. So tonight, they took the easy way out. The real sad part about it all is that Glen doesn't deserve any of it. He is 100% a company man, and will do anything they ask of him. He is dedicated to protecting our industry, and has always done everything that he could to help the younger guys climbing the ladder behind him. He is a family man, a true athlete, and a friend. I always try to give the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they have some super kayfabe plan to raise Kane. I hope so, because tonight I feel just like many of the rest of you. ROBBED! Amen to that Percy, amen to that. When I first started watching wrestling 4 short years ago, Kane was my first favourite character. I liked the mystery surrounding him. I liked his character and I thought he was an OK wrestler. I don't care what anyone else says 'he's just a hoss, he can't wrestle' because its bullshit. Kane has shown a hell of alot more than most other hosses in the last 5 years, and he has gotten a whole lot of jack shit for it. One day with the belt, to Tag Champ, to Hardcore Champ, to main eventer again, to IC Champ, to company man, to bondage freak. I haven't even seen RAW yet, I don't get it for another hour. By the look of RAW, the only thing that I will want to see is the Foley tribute. Its a sad day, because I would have maked out bigger than I have in the past year if Kane had of beaten Triple H. Words do not express with I think of Levesque and the whole RAW writing team. I am so pissed off right now that the end result of the show is this, because they have all but killed one of my very favourite characters. R.I.P Kane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted June 24, 2003 to have my personal JR go see live bands with me and hang out with my friends when we get stoned. "BAH GAWD! DAMN THAT OPENING BAND! DAMN THEIR SOULS STRAIGHT TO HELL!" "THAT LOUSY S.O.B. WON'T MATCH ON THE BOWL! BAH GAWD!!" And needless to say, locking lips with a significant other. JR: "BAH GAWD look at them go! It's a slobberknocker!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted June 24, 2003 I'm REALLY starting to want a personal JR now. Why can't they be real!? Anyway, I've always thought the Kane character was holding Glen back. Yeah, yeah, I'm well aware I'll get comments like "But he's only ever been of as Kane!" I still feel the same way. Let's face it, the Kane character looked like something out of Kevin Sullivan's Dungeon of Doom. It's very camp, looking back on it. Not to mention it insulted the intelligence of the fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted June 24, 2003 I'm REALLY starting to want a personal JR now. Why can't they be real!? They're busy working on my machine that will play my entrance music whenever I walk into a room. When they're done with that, then you can have your My J.R. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murmuring Beast 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2003 BAH, GAWD, MOMMA, SOMEONE BURNT THE TOAST~ What a crock of shit. If you've been burnt, you don't still have the smoke on your face. BULL~SHIT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nl5xsk1 Report post Posted June 24, 2003 That Percy Pringle article rules ... of course, if it's even read by anyone in a position of authority in the WWE it'll get ignore and laughed at. I mean, what does a guy who's been in the business for 2 decades know?!? How many "must see TV" episodes did he collaborate on?!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2003 BAH, GAWD, MOMMA, SOMEONE BURNT THE TOAST~ What a crock of shit. If you've been burnt, you don't still have the smoke on your face. BULL~SHIT. Dude, he broke his mirror. Of course he couldn't wash it off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites