Guest edge007 Report post Posted July 4, 2003 Man, if they have a match at Vengeance, they have the potential to pull off a ****-***** match. I am really looking forward to Vengeance now. I was gonna see it before, but now I'm definitely seeing it. What do you think of the overall card (or what looks like is gonna be the card) of Vengeance? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2003 I can't believe Big Show got added to the card, its fucking retarded. What a way to fuck up a PPV and lessen buyouts. I would rather see Big Show Vs. A-Train then see his fat ass maineventing a PPV. Anyway, I was hoping Eddie / Tajiri were going to hold onto the belts longer, but oh well. Looks like a good match. Apparantly, we'll be seeing The Undertaker Vs. John Cena. Now, I wonder who Ex-Team Angle is going to fight at Vengeance now...the Basham Brothers perhaps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 4, 2003 Rhyno/Benoit would be the best thing to do for TBDTTP and have the epic Rhyno Heel turn there... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2003 Which is sooooooo weird/interesting with Benoit or Rhyno because they're both awesome as heels (they've been heels most of their careers), but they get more over as faces, I wouldn't know who would or should make the inevitable turn... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted July 4, 2003 I hated them breaking up Eddie and Tajiri. They were meshing well together and Eddie was getting over big as a face. Least it should lead to a good match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mystery Eskimo Report post Posted July 4, 2003 The most they'll hit is ***1/2 because they won't be given more than 10 minutes at most. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lightning Flik Report post Posted July 4, 2003 And this one move explains everything that is currently wrong with administation of the McMahon-Helmsly Regime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EL DANDY~! 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2003 Well, look for a McMahon/Gowen match. It's GOTTA happen now. It just HAS to. IF you give Eddy/Tajiri 15-20 minutes...see Michaels/Jericho WM XIX. In other words, a SHOW STEALER. Benoit MUST turn heel on Rhyno at Vengeance so that he can be built up strong to face whomever at SummerSlam, unless they decide to go all Angle/Lesnar 1 on 1 at SummerSlam, which would (again) leave Benoit out in the cold...goddammit... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2003 unless they decide to go all Angle/Lesnar 1 on 1 at SummerSlam, which would (again) leave Benoit out in the cold...goddammit... I hope not. Benoit's probably the most held guy in WWE right now next to RVD and Chris Jericho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted July 4, 2003 unless they decide to go all Angle/Lesnar 1 on 1 at SummerSlam, which would (again) leave Benoit out in the cold...goddammit... I hope not. Benoit's probably the most held guy in WWE right now next to RVD and Chris Jericho. Benoit's in worse shape then Jericho. He's been putting over rookies big time lately. Least Jericho is getting an opponent that at least makes sense jobbing to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 4, 2003 Well, look for a McMahon/Gowen match. It's GOTTA happen now. It just HAS to. IF you give Eddy/Tajiri 15-20 minutes...see Michaels/Jericho WM XIX. In other words, a SHOW STEALER. Benoit MUST turn heel on Rhyno at Vengeance so that he can be built up strong to face whomever at SummerSlam, unless they decide to go all Angle/Lesnar 1 on 1 at SummerSlam, which would (again) leave Benoit out in the cold...goddammit... How does that leave Benoit in the cold.. We're getting Lesnar/Angle straight Up at Summer Slam...That's seems obvious... But sine they have already booked/announced Benoit/Rhyno I QUIT matches for a couple House Shows clearly indicates that they will face each other at Summer Slam which would be cool beans. We just don't know who is turning...Rhyno would be better suited for the heel turn. Eddy/Tajiri wouldn't be comparative to Shawn/Jericho because we knew they were getting 25-35 minutes and pretty expected a good match when we got a FUCKING GREAT match (Booking decision nonwithstanding). The thing to do is this... Lesnar/Angle is built as an Face/FACE showdown at Slam... Benoit beats Rhyno in a I QUIT Match or perhaps a Last Man Standing Match Lesnar turns on Angle at Slam by reuniting with Heyman...paranoid about losing his title once it's gotten in his head he only beat Angle cuz of a Broken Neck... This sets up Angle/Benoit Vs Lesnar/Rhyno (both along with TBDTTP are aligned with Heyman)...If you want...Add Mysterio and Cena to the mix. You have about 8 months of shit with those 8 names... All leading to MEGA MONSTER HEEL Lesnar Vs MEGA FACE Angle at WMXX... By this time...Cena will be elevated to the HUGE superstar he seems poised to be...Benoit will be used well and you created a great stable (might as well put TBS in there for good measure but merely as an Enforcer/bodyguard) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2003 Cena will be elevated by.... a loss to The Undertaker? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wwF1587 Report post Posted July 4, 2003 Well thanks WWE you saved me 35 dollars again this month thanks mostly to your complete stupidity....I knew this would happen and it has and im not that suprised... TBS gets beat by a ONE LEGGED MAN and he is part of the W W E CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH at a major ppv... FUCK THAT... I know lesner/angle can carry this match to something good but still of all the people to add to this match they add the frickin BIG SHOW... god I am soo tired of seeing brock/big show... I refuse to watch this big dumbass perhaps injure my two faves on SD! right now...they could have added Beniot and Rhyno and made it a fatal four way just as easily.. then at summerslam you've got Angle/Lesner and Beniot/Rhyno.. i mean seriously what the FUCK is the big show going to do after Vengence when he does lose..... maybe this company will just finally kill of any interest SD! has left and have the big show win the WWE title... i am saving my money on this crap... i dont want to see UT win over cena, i dont want to see mcmahon/gowen, and i dont want to see the big show in ANOTHER ME spot as Beniot/rhyno stay on Velocity and Ultimo is in dark matches already... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evilhomer Report post Posted July 4, 2003 I can't believe Big Show got added to the card, its fucking retarded. What a way to fuck up a PPV and lessen buyouts. I would rather see Big Show Vs. A-Train then see his fat ass maineventing a PPV. My only guess for throwing TBS into the match is that they're trying to make it worse than it should be. This way the Angle/Brock Summerslam match will be that much bigger and won't be something that we just saw two months ago. Of course this problem could have been avoided by having a credible opponent lined up for Brock, but planning like that isn't allowed apparently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted July 4, 2003 I refuse to watch this big dumbass perhaps injure my two faves on SD! right now Talking about Brock? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted July 4, 2003 I really loved the Eddy/Tajiri tag team. Sure, the matches will be be great, but they were getting mega-huge-over. Oh yeah, that must be why they were split. Still, we're going to have Haas and Benji defending the titles, Tajiri/Eddy, Brock/Show/Angle (Show won't be able to ruin the match, folks, don't worry), perhaps Rey/Kidman or Rey/Kidman and another cruiser in a Triple Threat or so... Looks like a PPV worth getting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2003 So, do you guys reckon that this is the plan they had for Los Guerreros before Chavo's injury, with Eddie turning on Chavo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted July 4, 2003 No. I think they're doing it because they were a team thrown together at random. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest chirs3 Report post Posted July 4, 2003 Am I the only one bothered by the fact that Eddie was horrified that his car might be damaged, then 30 seconds later puts Tajiri through the windshield? Kind of counterproductive if you ask me. But still, should be a good match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BobbyWhioux Report post Posted July 4, 2003 Chris3: Yeah, but that could just be classic old school heel hypocrisy at work. You know, next week he could yell at Tajiri for "Busting up his windshield" and how now he wants to kick his ass on PPV over it. Eddie is just able to pull it off, ya know? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2003 Breaking up Eddie and Tajiri was the worst thing ever because it can only lead to one result with the tag titles back on a heel team...APA are winning the titles by SummerSlam. It is set in stone. Oh and if Benoit is paired up with Shaniqua...just fuckin' retire already because his career will essentially be over when that happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JaKyL25 Report post Posted July 5, 2003 Don't forget that this PPV line-up will probably feature a Matt Hardy vs. Billy Gunn match for the US Championship, with Billy going over! Woo hoo! Operator, I'd like to order WWE Vengeance! ...in all seriousness, this PPV should blow every PPV since Mania out of the water based on Eddie vs. Tajiri, the main event, whatever Cruiser title match comes about, and whatever Benoit and Rhyno end up doing. A win by either Cena or Hardy would be a nice capper on the evening as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2003 (edited) Vengeance can STILL be saved. Preferably, taking Big Show out of the main event, he doesn't even deserve on the damn card. God damn it, Hogan quitting brought us this mess... Eddie Guerrero / Tajiri should be good, can't see who would benefit more from winning the match, but I'm going with Eddie for the win. Apparantly, it looks like they're going through with Mysterio / Kidman. Just like old WCW days, goody goody. Tag title division is fucked up as it is, I don't care anymore. Benoit and Rhyno need to split...ASAP. Fuck APA, send them to RAW to feud with the Frenchies. If the Undertaker actually puts Cena over, I'll respect him. Chris Benoit, Matt Hardy, Wrestler X, I don't care who wins the US title as long as its NOT Gay Ass Billy Gunn. Even if it still does suck, Vengeance won't be worse than Bad Blood, will it? Edited July 5, 2003 by Rico_Constantino Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted July 5, 2003 The most they'll hit is ***1/2 because they won't be given more than 10 minutes at most. Since when did the amount of time equal a great match? Eddie vs Mysterio at Halloween Havoc '97 was 13:49. The difference of 4 minutes isn't that great in determining the rating of a match. That pretty much takes your theory to the realm of bullshit buddy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lilly Report post Posted July 5, 2003 I was just finally getting used to them as a team and getting into them and they break them up. Sigh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
