Youth N Asia Posted August 20, 2003 Report Posted August 20, 2003 The Detroit Tigers are 31-93. They have 38 games left and have to win 11 of those to keep from setting the record for most loses in a season, which would be 121. (The Mets went 40-120) Although if they set it I'll be pissed if they Roger Maris this one and just an asterisk (*) next to their name for taking more games to do it.
Guest Choken One Posted August 20, 2003 Report Posted August 20, 2003 The asterisk would be "They had 10 other games...and STILL couldn't win more"
Slingshot Suplex Posted August 20, 2003 Report Posted August 20, 2003 Since there's little chance the Lions will go 0-16...I'll settle for this record.
Guest Choken One Posted August 20, 2003 Report Posted August 20, 2003 I'm Banking Arizona gets that Plateau this year
kkktookmybabyaway Posted August 20, 2003 Report Posted August 20, 2003 Here's the rest of their schedule: 1 v Tex. 4 v Ana. 3 @ Cle. 3 v CWS 4 v Cle. 3 @ Tor. 3 @ NYY 4 v KC 3 v Tor. 3 @ Min. 3@ KC 4 v Min. 18 of these games are against teams not in postseason contention (Tex, Ana, Tor, Cle). 20 are (NYY, KC, MIN, CWS). I'll put my money in the 121+ column...
Vern Gagne Posted August 20, 2003 Report Posted August 20, 2003 I hope not. They seem to put forth a nice effort every game. Their just not that good and they're also inexperienced.
Gert T Posted August 20, 2003 Report Posted August 20, 2003 Until the recent losing streak, I thought there was no chance, but I'm not sure now. The thing is if they get hot and sweep one series, then they'll only have to win 1 in each series after that. One detriment to the record, more games against the White Sox, who they have been pretty successful against.
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted August 20, 2003 Report Posted August 20, 2003 I don't think so. They have to maintain a .250 pace to break the record. They're better than that at least.
Youth N Asia Posted August 20, 2003 Author Report Posted August 20, 2003 I don't think so. They have to maintain a .250 pace to break the record. They're better than that at least. They're not better then that...31 wins out of 124 games is a .250 average.
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted August 20, 2003 Report Posted August 20, 2003 Better talent-wise, I mean. Their hitters underperformed severely to start the season. Since their miserable start they've played better than .250.
CanadianChris Posted August 20, 2003 Report Posted August 20, 2003 I don't care. I just want Moroth and/or Bonderman to lose 20.
Vern Gagne Posted August 20, 2003 Report Posted August 20, 2003 Alan Trammel has not done a good job. Sure the Tigers are bad, but this bad? No excuses for any team being 60 games under.
MarvinisaLunatic Posted August 20, 2003 Report Posted August 20, 2003 I just remembered one of the most horrid facts in the history of the Baltimore Orioles: They got swept in 3 games AT CAMDEN YARDS by the Tigers. If the Tigers set the record for most losses, that will become magnified, possibly up there with the 21 game losing streak.. So definitely I want the Tigers to win more games.
MarvinisaLunatic Posted August 20, 2003 Report Posted August 20, 2003 Also, I can't imagine the 2005 All Star Game Home Run derby being fun to watch there. Bonds hits it deep to right field way back..and its short on the warning track! (slightly exagerated of course, I bet Bonds is one of the few players who could hit 10 out of there)... If they were smart, they'd move the fences in next year. The original intention of the fences being out so far was to help their pitchers but its obviously not working that way.
Youth N Asia Posted August 21, 2003 Author Report Posted August 21, 2003 Make that 31-94... The owner (who also owns the Red Wings) made coaches out of former Tigers that the fans really really like. So Alan Trammell, Lance Parish, and Kirk Gibson are still well liked by fans, so fans are not going to turn on them that quickly. Owners should take more blame for a crap team then the manager...Trammell just has nothing to work with.
MarvinisaLunatic Posted August 21, 2003 Report Posted August 21, 2003 http://msn.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/stark_j...on/1599437.html 62 Mets beat the 03 Tigers in 7 games
the max Posted August 21, 2003 Report Posted August 21, 2003 Didn't they move the fences in this year?
Gert T Posted August 21, 2003 Report Posted August 21, 2003 Didn't they move the fences in this year? They moved in the LF wall about 20 feet I believe.
Youth N Asia Posted August 21, 2003 Author Report Posted August 21, 2003 Great idea...piss Juan off, then move the fences in when you have no one left to hit home runs. When Bobby Higginson has Juan behind him he was doing great. With any kind of homerun threat batting next the pitchers had to pitch to Bobby, and he did well. Now he's still a good player, but between not caring and having no one else on a team his numbers are in the crapper.
Vern Gagne Posted August 21, 2003 Report Posted August 21, 2003 Owners should take more blame for a crap team then the manager...Trammell just has nothing to work with. I'm sorry but the Tigers has inexperienced and young has they are should not be 31-94.
Youth N Asia Posted August 22, 2003 Author Report Posted August 22, 2003 Owners should take more blame for a crap team then the manager...Trammell just has nothing to work with. I'm sorry but the Tigers has inexperienced and young has they are should not be 31-94. They're not... They're 31-95 now
Rob E Dangerously Posted August 23, 2003 Report Posted August 23, 2003 Trammell isn't really that good at managing right now
Youth N Asia Posted August 23, 2003 Author Report Posted August 23, 2003 Trammell isn't really that good at managing right now I think their record would still be 31-96 with anyone else coaching.
Rob E Dangerously Posted August 23, 2003 Report Posted August 23, 2003 31-97 now They lost by six, in 10 innings
Vern Gagne Posted August 23, 2003 Report Posted August 23, 2003 Trammell isn't really that good at managing right now I think their record would still be 31-96 with anyone else coaching. I disagree. The Tigers should not be this bad. No team should be this bad. You can't put the blame entirely on Trammel; but I don't think it's wrong to say he hasn't done a particularly good job.
The Czech Republic Posted August 23, 2003 Report Posted August 23, 2003 Make that 36-97. EDIT: Rob beat me to it. I think they'll break the Mets record now.
Bruiser Chong Posted August 23, 2003 Report Posted August 23, 2003 (edited) I'm always sorta amazed at how everything is always the manager's fault. Granted, he can take a good portion of the blame in a justified manner, but not everything is his fault. Whenever something's going right, it's always because of the players, yet when things are going wrong, it's the manager's fault. Even though that's an asinine statement, that's how most people act, even though it's rarely true. Look at the Tiger's roster. You basically have an entire team of very young, inexperienced guys. They won't be winning anytime soon, but they're learning the game, learning the ropes of the major leagues, and that takes time. If they are kept together, you'll see them make progress soon enough. Maybe they won't be winning anytime soon, but I highly doubt next season will be this bad. Edited August 23, 2003 by Bruiser Chong
Vern Gagne Posted August 23, 2003 Report Posted August 23, 2003 I think just the opposite is true. The Managers never receive any of the blame from the media, and get all the credit if a team does anything right. That's just going by what the national media and local media say.It might be different other places.
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