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I'm finally done with WWE for a while.

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My first clue was when I found the Georgia Tech/BYU halftime show more interesting. I flipped over to see A-Train getting protected over Benoit. Later, turned on the main event to see UT humping Show's face, and Cole talking about how much everyone wants Angle's ass. Read the review today... no WGTT, no Mattitude, Cena & Eddie having to fight each other instead of going over the big, old morons. The only place I want to see Cena, Eddie, Benoit, Angle, etc, go over each other is in the main event for the TITLE.

 

It's the usual complaints: too many McMahons, HHH, old fatasses on top, no young talented WRESTLERS on top.

 

But most of all, it's plain boring.

 

Good thing, too... College Football is back.

 

Here's to WWE hitting rock bottom sooner rather than later... then they'll have to change. :cheers:

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After the last RAW, Smackdown is what turns you off to the WWE?!?

 

Later, turned on the main event to see UT humping Show's face, and Cole talking about how much everyone wants Angle's ass.

 

Could you possibly be more of a homophobic dipshit? It was a triangle choke you schmuck not a damn bronco buster yuou horses' ass. And if you haven't keyed into the fact that people want to beat Angle and not fuck him up the ass you're about as retarded as the day is long.

 

Read the review today... no WGTT, no Mattitude, Cena & Eddie having to fight each other instead of going over the big, old morons.

 

Well hell, do you want long matches that matter or as many people as they can jam into the show as possible? Besides Matt had a concussion.

 

The only place I want to see Cena, Eddie, Benoit, Angle, etc, go over each other is in the main event for the TITLE.

 

Well shit Sherlock there's only ONE of THOSE so I guess you'll never see those guys wrestle each other again unless they do it one at a time. And then you're stuck with Benoit-A-Train which you ALSO bitched about.

 

It's the usual complaints: too many McMahons, HHH, old fatasses on top, no young talented WRESTLERS on top.

 

Ever hear of Brock Fucking Lesner?

 

Say this shit after RAW and its all good... after a show you didn't watch makes you look like a moron.

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After the last RAW, Smackdown is what turns you off to the WWE?!?

 

Later, turned on the main event to see UT humping Show's face, and Cole talking about how much everyone wants Angle's ass.

 

Could you possibly be more of a homophobic dipshit? It was a triangle choke you schmuck not a damn bronco buster yuou horses' ass. And if you haven't keyed into the fact that people want to beat Angle and not fuck him up the ass you're about as retarded as the day is long.

I know what Cole was getting at, but I will maintain that there are many various better ways to say what he's trying to say without using "they want Angle's ass."

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WWE haters take note of this.

 

Stop complaining.

 

If you stop watching what is the point of telling everyone unless you actually WANT to be flamed.

 

OK. WWE have become a bit hard to watch, but there have been SIGNS of improvement. Of course, all of the TNA fans and the WWE critics are gonna go all 'WHAT IMPROVEMENTS ?!?!?!' so I guess I might as well explain them now.

 

The RAW matches that we expected to see at Summerslam were obviously being kept for Unforgiven, which is a good idea, because they are as well keeping bigger money matches for the exclusive to RAW PPV.

 

We may not want to see Shane v Kane, but the build for it has actually been quite good. They are building heat for it quite well. No point bitching about the fued now, because we KNOW it's happening.

 

La Resistance going over The Dudleyz was good since Dudleyz are a past it tag team and La Resistance are only bad because they are green.

 

On Smackdown, I didn't care about Brock Lesnar as a face, but I cared about him as a heel. He's a heel again. Good move.

 

Basically, even though WWE is getting bad, it IS getting better, and so many people hate it just because it's cool to hate it. Give it a chance in the next few weeks and you MAY be surprised.

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And if people aren't?

 

Its easy to specualte on the future but people have been posting something similiar to the above since WMXIX.

 

Its getting tiresome waiting for that corner to appear....

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I've never cared much about Brock as either a heel or face. I don't actively dislike him, but more or less accepted his title push rather than outright enjoyed it.

 

SMDN for the most part had its house in order this week. Decent talent was featured, Steph showed up to make a match and then left, so she wasn't overexposed. Don't sweat stuff like the A Train/Benoit match. I mean yeah Train's feet were under the ropes but hell we all know Benoit would beat him 9/10 times anyway.

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Here's my problem with holding matches from Summerslam to put on the brand exclusive PPV: It's Summerslam, one of the biggest shows of the year, yet actual matches are pushed aside for the ineffective brand exclusive PPV's.

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OK. WWE have become a bit hard to watch, but there have been SIGNS of improvement. Of course, all of the TNA fans and the WWE critics are gonna go all 'WHAT IMPROVEMENTS ?!?!?!' so I guess I might as well explain them now.

 

The RAW matches that we expected to see at Summerslam were obviously being kept for Unforgiven, which is a good idea, because they are as well keeping bigger money matches for the exclusive to RAW PPV.

Bullshit.

 

It's a bad idea not to go big for what has traditionally been the 2nd biggest ppv of the year. It's exactly the same as using Wrestlemania to set up Backlash.

 

Tell me this... who on Raw has HHH not gone over?

 

We may not want to see Shane v Kane, but the build for it has actually been quite good. They are building heat for it quite well. No point bitching about the fued now, because we KNOW it's happening.

No point? Shane, a guy I've been a big fan of, is a nonwrestler McMahon. Kane is old, slow, and past his prime. What advantage is served by either guy going over?

 

Basically, even though WWE is getting bad, it IS getting better...

What?!?

 

...and so many people hate it just because it's cool to hate it. Give it a chance in the next few weeks and you MAY be surprised.

Dude, I've been a WWE/Vince apologist for 2 years. I was all over IWC negativity. In life, I'm an optimist. The fact is WWE is painful to watch. It's like your favorite sports team in the middle of a 5 year slump. It's boring. There are barely any signs of improvement. I'll give you Brock. And Kurt IS the champ. But who's in the ME? I guarantee UT either wins the title or loses with a minimum of 2 ref bumps and a run-in. On Raw, HHH is the champ and will be until he loses his legs.

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I've never cared much about Brock as either a heel or face. I don't actively dislike him, but more or less accepted his title push rather than outright enjoyed it.

 

SMDN for the most part had its house in order this week. Decent talent was featured, Steph showed up to make a match and then left, so she wasn't overexposed. Don't sweat stuff like the A Train/Benoit match. I mean yeah Train's feet were under the ropes but hell we all know Benoit would beat him 9/10 times anyway.

Maybe this couldve been the one out of 10 for A-Train :P

 

As for what webmasterofwrestlegame said, the difference between WM and Summerslam was Wrestlemania was an amazin show and Summerslam was average.

 

And there were NO signs of improvement after Wrestlemania, only bad signs of how long Triple H reign would last and how many new stars would job to HBK. Now, we have Jericho CONSTANTLY going over Nash, Orton probably going over HBK soon and a new champion on the way on RAW. As for Smackdown, Eddie Guererro is being made into a star, John Cena is improving, and McMahons were lacking on last nights Smackdown.

 

Things didn't look great for Smackdown after Wrestlemania, with the man that won the belt would be remembered for botching a SSP that night, and the top star was injured.

 

Now, we have had two average and one very good show from the PPVs and even though TNA are better just now IMO, WWE seem to be realising some faults, and are building for the better future.

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The RAW matches that we expected to see at Summerslam were obviously being kept for Unforgiven, which is a good idea, because they are as well keeping bigger money matches for the exclusive to RAW PPV.

That Suckbag/HBK mach should make them buckets of money.

 

 

We may not want to see Shane v Kane, but the build for it has actually been quite good. They are building heat for it quite well

 

Owner's son REPEATEDLY stopping unstoppable monster=$$$$$$$$$$$!

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Here's my problem with holding matches from Summerslam to put on the brand exclusive PPV: It's Summerslam, one of the biggest shows of the year, yet actual matches are pushed aside for the ineffective brand exclusive PPV's.

Precisely. The biggest matches should be on the biggest cards. Based on the last Raw-only PPV, the buyrate's going to be practically non-existant as it is...why waste your money match on a PPV no one is going to see?

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That Suckbag/HBK mach should make them buckets of money.

The fans were DYING to see Goldberg defeat Triple H as soon as he came out of his chamber. People wanna see Goldberg beat HHH. They think he can do it. They think that Goldberg is the man to FINALLY defeat Triple H. That's why it'll make them money. As for buckets of money, put the greatest over guys ever in the ring these days and they won't draw much.

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"Now, we have Jericho CONSTANTLY going over Nash"

 

Man, I enjoyed this one. Jericho constantly goes over by getting powerbombed at every opportunity. Then winning the hair vs. hair match by playing pinball off Nash, but he did win cleaner than expected. Then in the EC Jericho cleans up HBK's leftovers before getting powerbombed yet again.

 

And how did a Suckbag/HBK comment lead to an analysis of the fans reaction to Goldberg/HHH?

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That Suckbag/HBK mach should make them buckets of money.

The fans were DYING to see Goldberg defeat Triple H as soon as he came out of his chamber. People wanna see Goldberg beat HHH. They think he can do it. They think that Goldberg is the man to FINALLY defeat Triple H. That's why it'll make them money. As for buckets of money, put the greatest over guys ever in the ring these days and they won't draw much.

That has what, exactly to do with HBK and Suckbag Orton?

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Anyways, I commented on the wrong fued there. I would pay for ANYONE to go over HBK other than HHH and Nash.

 

Jericho holds two pins over Nash. No-one will remember whatelse happened apart from the cynics. The facts are simple. Jericho pinned Nash. OK. Only to be squashed by Goldberg I suppose but the thought is there.

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Smackdown's show was a very good show last night. Not too many rediculous segments, very little McMahonamania going on, and the World and US titles were showcased as the two most important titles in all of the WWE last night. Plus we got four matches that were all pretty good (with the US and Cruiserweight Title matches being entertaining).

 

I'm surprised that a show such as this turns you off of wrestling, but every person has their own opinion.

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Anyways, I commented on the wrong fued there. I would pay for ANYONE to go over HBK other than HHH and Nash.

 

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Orton is unover, uncharasmatic, and a bad wrestler to boot. A waste of Shawn

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They sacrificed TV time to put over Eddy HUGE, and they've been pushing A-Train anyway so it isn't shocking he has a match. Cena vs. Eddy is good TV, I don't give a shit if they aren't fighting over the WWE Title if they give me angles like this. Besides, the next PPV is Raw-only, so they have to have some placeholder angles until No Mercy, since they simply don't know how to build angles two months in advance well.

 

SD wasn't as good as usual, but it was still good. Half the matches were really good, and even the sucky half of the show was still better than the best Raw gives us nowadays.

 

No McMahons were on the show except for Stephanie coming out to announce the main event of the show.

 

Matt Hardy is injured due to a concussion, that's why he wasn't on Summerslam and why he wasn't on Smackdown this week.

 

So quit the bitching, and save it for the next Raw.

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I can honestly say after this week's RAW that if I wasn't doing recapping for TSM, I would have just stopped watching for good. But I still hold out hope among hope that the perseverance will pay off, and that I'll be glad I stuck around because I'll get to see the full turnaround as it happens.

 

As for Smackdown, I think the pieces are in place for a turnaround, provided they can use Stephanie no more than they used her last night ever again, keep the A-Train push under control and keep the Undertaker out of main events. More so than that, they need a driving concept to pull everything together and a new star to emerge that is well-rounded enough to carry the company. Whether or not they elevate Benoit to main event status, I think it's important that he be kept strong so he can give guys great matches that are needing them to break through to the next level. And they have to start striking while the iron is hot, in order to avoid having a roster full of Jerichos and RVDs. They seem to be catching on with Eddy, so maybe there's something there.

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"I can honestly say after this week's RAW that if I wasn't doing recapping for TSM, I would have just stopped watching for good. But I still hold out hope among hope that the perseverance will pay off, and that I'll be glad I stuck around because I'll get to see the full turnaround as it happens."

 

Call me when it happens--I've lost my patience.

 

And Taker in the main event is happening right now anyway, but since he's getting the title shot next week and not at a PPV there's hope.

 

Yet, I feel afraid we might get that rumored Vince-Taker program which I dread deeply.

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i live in Santo Domingo Dominican Republic i was at a resort for the weeken and i was at an american theme bar and they had Summerslam on TV i missed the first few matches but i was REALLY liking the show i just loved the old school fight with brock and kurt and the awesome US title match here where i live we dont get much wrestling so i depend on the internet to see what ive been missing i was just loving the show and i thought maybe the smarks had just been tough on WWE ....that was until the main event the main event was going great during the whole match the bar was cheering jericho when a place full of drunk people who have never seen wrestling to cheer a guy like that was surreal my hopes went down a little when goldberg speared jericho i thought jericho was kicking out i hoped so...but lets be real they would never put someone who doesnt fuck stephanie over the guy they spent so much money on well at least the crowd was high on goldberg so for him to win the title there would have been ....so/so he beat triple h up at liting he was going for the spear....THEN THE DAMN SLEDGEHAMMER!!! one fricking shot and he is down!!! the INJURED triple h wins because he wont let go of the damn title!!! the bar room EXPLODED hell they did not know who triple h was but they still hated him i swear im never watching raw again until a non triple h is holding the HHHeavyweight title

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Vince vs Taker???you gotta be kidding me

That's the rumor--and I'm guessing it would stem from from Sable or something. I'm hoping it was scrapped since nothing came of it this week, but they could just be waiting to set it up--i.e. Vince screwing Taker next week.

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Vince vs Taker???you gotta be kidding me

That's the rumor--and I'm guessing it would stem from from Sable or something. I'm hoping it was scrapped since nothing came of it this week, but they could just be waiting to set it up--i.e. Vince screwing Taker next week.

This would upset me, but I don't watch Smackdown.

 

Good for Vince. :P

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WWE haters take note of this.

 

Stop complaining.

 

I complain when I don't like something. The only problem I have with Smackdown was someone else getting the crap kicked out of him in his hometown again. That said, I'm glad he kept the title. Benoit has beaten A-Train clean enough times this year that it is clear that he is above him on the card. He made him tap out again here, whether Train had his feet under the ropes or not. The purpose was to put over Benoit/Rhyno moreso than to protect A-Train anyways. I assume WGTT is on Velocity, and there wasn't any room for them on Smackdown anyways with Eddy taking up half the show.

 

One thing I liked about Smackdown was seeing Nunzio without him being treated like a joke. WWE does do good things. At least know what to complain about, there is more than enough to complain about on RAW.

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What is with the disdain for UT/Vince if that happens? It seems like a good idea to me. It will more than likely at least keep UT away from the title in a gimmick feud.

 

SMDN does need a concept....that concept is CHEAT TO WIN~!

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Takers "jujigatame" was pretty gay though. I mean, I don't think I've ever seen anyone in MMA thrust like that before when putting on a "triangle choke/armbar" or whatever that godforesaken thing was. Typically I like Undershooter and his Undershooter abilities, moreso in an odd way than anything, but this was too odd. Plus, him trying to be Fedor doesn't cut it.

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