Guest Markingout Report post Posted September 4, 2003 Honestly this guy is awesome. He has some awesome spots. Asai Moonsault from the top to the floor... HOLY SHIT. I like this guy a lot. Sabin vs Teddy Hart I wish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JN News 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2003 I bet Bret's chest is swelled with pride. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DKnez Report post Posted September 4, 2003 Why isnt nobody talking about the show? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syxx2001 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2003 Yeah and just think, when he was listed in the tourny alot of people went "Who is this Hart jobber. Where is Elix and Sonjay Dutt?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BrokenWings Report post Posted September 4, 2003 Damn straight. I was marking out to a lot of his moves, I really wish it was him and Sabin in the finals. Glad Juvi didn't win though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Astro101 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2003 Where is everyone tonight??? Anyway, very entertaining show. It was pretty much just straight up wrestling, X style and a fun War Games match. I wish someone would've done something from the top cage. Like a frogsplash from D'Lo or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted September 4, 2003 Great? Hardly. Maybe he should watch some Bret tapes and learm how to wrestle, instead of doing a spot-a-thon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tawren 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2003 Great? Hardly. Maybe he should watch some Bret tapes and learm how to wrestle, instead of doing a spot-a-thon. The entire show was just spots. As a native Calgarian who has seen him in Stampede, he can wrestle, and very well too, but for tonights shows purposes, he did the spots. And I enjoyed it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2003 Juvi/Hart was one of the biggest spotfests I've ever seen. The number of counters was beyond ridiclious. Hart was impressive, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Astro101 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2003 I'd like to see all these guys wrestling with more time. Of course there were spots tonight, with TNA trying to fit everything onto the show. That was what I expected and it's what we all got. Once in a while, I enjoy spot fests...not all, but once in a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syxx2001 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2003 SPOTFESTZ RULE~! RED NUMBER ONE BAYBEE~!~! Ahem, what was the best match in the tourny? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Real Nosferatu Report post Posted September 4, 2003 HArt did his job. He made me care for who he is. He made me mark out, and he had me on the edge of my seat. Mission Accomplished. Who DIDN'T think tonights show was awesome? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tawren 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2003 Ahem, what was the best match in the tourny? Most people will agree either Hart/Juvi in the semis or Juvi/Sabin in the finals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2003 I thought tonight was fair...short, spotfesty X Division matches and Wargames was a huge clusterfuck because of the weapons and the one ring/one cage. And the opener made no sense whatsoever, but that's okay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syxx2001 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2003 Was Juvi in those black pants or his purple tights? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Real Nosferatu Report post Posted September 4, 2003 White Pants with Black stripes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted September 4, 2003 Who DIDN'T think tonights show was awesome? Me. I don't go nuts over spots. Most of the matches were total spot-FU. The opener was CRAP, just as bad as a Raw match. The Main Event was garbage. Needless to say, I won't be wasting any money on further TNA shows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Real Nosferatu Report post Posted September 4, 2003 Wow, the whole show (minus the 2:00 opener) had hot crowds, and non-stop action. Hence NWA-Total Nonstop Action is the companies name. But, thats what you can expect from a Kurt Angle hater. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted September 4, 2003 Honestly this guy is awesome. He has some awesome spots. Asai Moonsault from the top to the floor... HOLY SHIT. Shannon Moore, Rey Jr., and probably countless others can do an asai to the floor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted September 4, 2003 Wow, the whole show (minus the 2:00 opener) had hot crowds, and non-stop action. Hence NWA-Total Nonstop Action is the companies name. Correction: Non-stop SPOTS But, thats what you can expect from a Kurt Angle hater. Oh save that bullshit. I demand you show proof that I "hate" Angle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Real Nosferatu Report post Posted September 4, 2003 No proof except a thread saying Kurt Angle is over-rated. Arguing against Angle in some ways is hating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted September 4, 2003 No proof except a thread saying Kurt Angle is over-rated. Arguing against Angle in some ways is hating. No, it's called DEBATING WRESTLING. And Kurt IS overrated. I never said I hated him. Not once. Drop that "OMG! Angle hater!" crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Real Nosferatu Report post Posted September 4, 2003 How is Angle over-rated anyway? (doesn't care to read a million pages of trolls saying 1 word adding +1 to their post total) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2003 He has some awesome spots. Asai Moonsault from the top to the floor... HOLY SHIT. Was Teddy's blown SSP in the quarterfinals edited out of the show? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted September 4, 2003 How is Angle over-rated anyway? (doesn't care to read a million pages of trolls saying 1 word adding +1 to their post total) He's not as good as most people think. Simple as that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Real Nosferatu Report post Posted September 4, 2003 He has some awesome spots. Asai Moonsault from the top to the floor... HOLY SHIT. Was Teddy's blown SSP in the quarterfinals edited out of the show? He only did it once (if u mean v. Jonny Storm) and it looked pretty decent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2003 NWA TNA PPV notes featuring three of company's best matches all in one night by Dave Meltzer [email protected] We're looking for your thoughts on tonight's show, so you can leave a thumbs up, thumbs down or thumbs in the middle along with a best and worst match to [email protected]. I know a lot of people don't like the idea of buying taped PPV shows. Well, if you skipped this one for that reason, you made a big mistake and this more than maybe any show in TNA history is a must to watch on replay. The first 75 minutes or so of this show was the best stuff this company has ever put out. The X division tournament so greatly exceeded expectations and after watching tons of videos from all over the world over the past few weeks, Juventud Guerrera has more natural in-ring talent than anyone I've seen. Not only that, but he showed it in all three of his matches, two of which were match of the year caliber and two of the company's three or four best matches of the year. 1. Mad Mikey pinned Lazz in 1:50 with a double arm DDT. This seemed to be filler because the show ran short. Lazz' best moves were dry humping and kissing Mikey. I can see why Mikey would be mad. They also announced Mikey at 244 pounds. That must be a record for exaggerations. 2. Guerrera beat Nosawa in 4:31 in the first round of the tournament. This was too short, but very good and crowd loved it with Guerrera winning with an on target 450 splash. 3. Teddy Hart pinned Jonny Storm in 2:48. Based on that, they probably edited about a minute out of the match. It was a series of high risk moves. Storm did a flip plancha. hart did a top rope Asai moonsault and appeared to hurt his wrist. Hart did the most awesome looking DDT I've ever seen. Crowd loved this as well. Hart won with a shooting star press. Well, nobody ever denied Ted Hart had talent. 4. Chris Sabin pinned Jerry Lynn in 3:30. Again too short. Lynn attacked ref Rudy Charles. Don Callis came out and told him he was about to get fired. While this was going on, Sabin kicked him low and got the pin. Viva La Lucha. 5. Frankie Kazarian pinned Michael Shane with a cradle in 3:25. Again, just too short but all action. Both guys looked good. 6. Guerrera pinned Hart in 9:59. This was one of hte best high flying style matches I've seen in a long time. Hart made a faux pas as this was taped a different week but aired the same night as he was wearing different gear. Juvi at least figured this out. Hart, a little unsteady on his feet, did a moonsault off the barricade landing on Guerrera with a double kneedrop. Hart also did twisting 450 like move which was similar to a sky twister. He also did a top rope Asai moonsault to the floor, and used it to sell his knee injury. Tons of near falls back and forth. Hart got a near fall with a shooting star. Guerrera got a near fall with a Juvi driver and got the pin with a second one, off the middle ropes. This was every bit as good as Guerrera's match of the year candidate with Blitzkrieg in WCW several years back as Hart is more polished than Blitzkrieg. 7. Sabin pinned Kazarian in 7:31. This was a great match, it just couldn't follow the bout before. Kazarian did the sunset flip power bomb over the top rope to the floor. I hate that spot because the chance of injury to the back of the head is too high. Sabin used a Tiger suplex for a near fall. Kazarian used his Wave of the future for a near fall. Sabin did this kick out of nowhere that was really cool. Tons of near falls including Kazarian doing a one man Spanish fly. Kazarian did a front rolling cradle, but Sabin kept rolling with it for the pin. This would have been the best match on 75% of WWE PPVs and 95% of TNA PPVs and on this show it was fighting for third place. In here, they did an angle where Terry Taylor was interviewing, I believe Harris & Storm. Kid Kash and Abyss came out and Kash slapped Taylor in the face again. No question angle coming up. 8. Sabin pinned Guerrera in 14:46 to win the tournament. Sabin nearly killed Guerrera early on by dropping him in an ugly way with a power bomb. Crowd was not into this match early compared to the other X matches, but hte work was so good they were loving it by the end. Sabin did a wheelbarrow German suplex. Guerrera did a Japanese Ocean Cyclone suplex (wow, first big move Tenay didn't recognize all night, he & West were awesome as well). So many great moves and innovative moves here. Guerrera got near falls with both a Juvi driver and a 450, before Sabin won with a fisherman suplex. Only negatives I'd say is after all those big moves, the fisherman was kind of a weak finisher, even though it is one of Sabin's big moves. The real negative is right after the bout ended, they cut away to an interview backstage. It's watching the crowd after a match like this, and both guys doing curtain calls of sorts, that makes people remember the bout. This was better than a lot of matches that will do better in awards at the end of the year because it was cut away like it was nothing. It also cheapened the tournament with no presentation after so many great bouts. 9. Jeff Jarrett & D-Lo Brown & Raven & Harris & Storm beat Chris Daniels & Johnny Swinger & Simon Diamond & A.J. Styles & Shane Douglas in a sort of War Games in 20:38. It was one cage. they brought people in faster (first segment with Jarrett vs. Daniels was 3:00 and intervals were 90 seconds after that with Styles, Harris, Diamond, Brown Douglas, Storm, Swinger and Raven in that order coming in). It was constant weapons shots to the head, going way too long and it was past numbing. Jarrett, Daniels and Harris juiced, with Jarrett juicing the biggest of course. They used a baseball bat, garbage can lid, and a guitar as weapons. Finish saw Jarrett pin Diamond (I believe) after Brown and Harris both simultaneously came off the top rope onto him. Post match saw a huge brawl with Watts, 3 Live Crew, New Church, Kash and Abyss and everyone involved. It ended with the door being locked and Raven alone with all the New Church members as Douglas started slowly cutting his hair. Show went off the air like that. I guess that means Raven should be bald when we see him next, but I guess after Kane wasn't burned after being caught in a huge fire, Raven doesn't need to be bald after being locked in a cage with three heels, one of them brandishing scissors. Next week are two different taped shows. They didn't make it at all clear on the TV that DirecTV viewers won't get the one cent show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Real Nosferatu Report post Posted September 4, 2003 I didn't think War Games was THAT bad. I guess I mark for weapon shots. It really shouldn't be called War Games since it was one cage w/ no roof and had the Clockwork Orange House of Fun Gimmick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2003 While Hart had some nice moves, can anyone justify his completely spotty selling of that knee injury? So... he hits the Hart Attack, re-injures his knee, and then fucking KIPS UP SIX SECONDS LATER? Uhm, I'm sorry, WHAT? The finish blew that match to hell for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Real Nosferatu Report post Posted September 4, 2003 While Hart had some nice moves, can anyone justify his completely spotty selling of that knee injury? So... he hits the Hart Attack, re-injures his knee, and then fucking KIPS UP SIX SECONDS LATER? Uhm, I'm sorry, WHAT? The finish blew that match to hell for me. Maybe he was pulling a Bret by "faking" a knee injury....in a match. Not a HBK injury faking. Bret would play possum until the opponent was in a position for Bret to surprise them with an offensive attack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
