Beast 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 In my opinion, the WWE has dropped yet another ball with the halt of the O'Haire segments that were on earlier this year. They were entertaining and intriguing, but if I remember correctly, it was suddenly stopped when O'Haire was paired with Piper in a dead end feud with Hogan and then Los Guerreros. This has got to go down as one of the biggest wasted gimmicks ever, along with Waylon Mercy. I had just happened to pop in a unlabeled tape this morning, and a february raw was on it. An O'Haire promo about taxes was on, and I found myself excited at the prospects of this character, until I remembered that O'Haire has rarely been seen on WWE TV since Piper left. Anyone else have thoughts on this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 The best thing they have done with this man was during the APA Bar Room Brawl when he came down and just sat at the bar and drank, while raising his glass to the violance at some points... i found this absolutely hilarious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muzz 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 Hopefully he's learning how to wrestle. Well, better, anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted September 13, 2003 ummmm.......nothing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest webmasterofwrestlegame Report post Posted September 13, 2003 I didn't mind his stuff with Piper but I always thought his character was much better off as loner. That said, WWE's excuse is basically that Piper has left O'Haire high and dry, and that 'Creative' are waiting for something for him. Whatever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caboose 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 He sucked in the ring and he didnt have any real personality to work the gimmick. Someone high up realised this and pulled the plug. Good call in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thrall585 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 I'm shocked that they haven't released O'Haire because not only does he suck, but he didn't shake Droz's hand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest IB2BLACK Report post Posted September 13, 2003 Why so much net' love for O'Haire? He can't wrestle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 Shall i even ask if i'm the only guy who likes O'Haire? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caboose 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 I'd hate to disagree with you Franchise, but O'Haire really is nothing more than Grenier, Conway etc. All have fairly similar physiques, all get given stupid ass gimmicks, which they have chance of getting over because they lack the ring talent or the personality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 The best thing they have done with this man was during the APA Bar Room Brawl when he came down and just sat at the bar and drank, while raising his glass to the violance at some points... i found this absolutely hilarious. That was Funaki. O'Haire was the one that went all Matrix on the bar and whipped everyone's ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 The best thing they have done with this man was during the APA Bar Room Brawl when he came down and just sat at the bar and drank, while raising his glass to the violance at some points... i found this absolutely hilarious. That was Funaki. O'Haire was the one that went all Matrix on the bar and whipped everyone's ass. I know what you mean by Funaki, was O Haire just sat there for a while, THEN he went Matrix on everyone. Other thing that was funny was when he eventually stood up, he took a jab at the easter bunny, and laughed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 I'd hate to disagree with you Franchise, but O'Haire really is nothing more than Grenier, Conway etc. All have fairly similar physiques, all get given stupid ass gimmicks, which they have chance of getting over because they lack the ring talent or the personality. Each to their own. I'd rather see O Haire than a Grenier or Conway though, but i did like his WCW things with the rest of the NBT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 O'Haire's got some degree of coolness to him.....that just makes him seem like a badass. That is what makes everyone like him so much. Grenier and Conway look like generic young body builders...especially with those haircuts. But O'Haire...he just walks out looking like a badass. I know that's one of the weakest reasons to like a wrestler "he looks like a badass" but it's just the way I feel about O'Haire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 ^^^ That was killed when he was paired with Piper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest gregb7677 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 no longer shocks me when the WWE screws something up. Yes, he can't really wrestle but that gimmick and those promos were cool. now if they took the time to truly develop these people (ya know strengthen there weak points) then MAYBE things would be better. Still doesn't excuse the piss poor writing though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandy 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 Well, the man was forced towrestle the WWE style, so yeah, he's no Flair on the mat. However, in WCW, he leapt to the top rope like Van Dam, had a much better Swanton (Seanton was his version) Bomb than Jeff Hardy, threw in a some martial arts moves, and brought a lot of intensity. Want to know one other way he is much different than La Resistance or some other OVW guys??? O'Haire is not being used and is not on TV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 Well, the man was forced towrestle the WWE style, so yeah, he's no Flair on the mat. However, in WCW, he leapt to the top rope like Van Dam, had a much better Swanton (Seanton was his version) Bomb than Jeff Hardy, threw in a some martial arts moves, and brought a lot of intensity. Want to know one other way he is much different than La Resistance or some other OVW guys??? O'Haire is not being used and is not on TV. Bingo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 Well, the man was forced towrestle the WWE style, so yeah, he's no Flair on the mat. However, in WCW, he leapt to the top rope like Van Dam, had a much better Swanton (Seanton was his version) Bomb than Jeff Hardy, threw in a some martial arts moves, and brought a lot of intensity. Want to know one other way he is much different than La Resistance or some other OVW guys??? O'Haire is not being used and is not on TV. Bingo. So in WCW he was like Nathan Jones with a little bit of wrestling knowledge and could do spots? So now he's unable to do the spots, and is a shitty actor so he can't pull off his character? DAMN THAT WWE STYLE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 That's not it Andrew, and deep down inside, you know it In WCW, he had talent, i'll wager you never watched half a dozen of his matches from that era? Course, being stuck with Sean Stasiak - not his best thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 I probably have seen at least that many, but they're *that* memorable. And the Seanton Bomb looked like crap--looked like no impact at all. Of course, I think the move sucks whomever does it, but he's not going to be using it in WWE, or going to the top rope at all, so it's a moot point. Being able to do top rope moves doesn't automatically equal talent, by the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 O'haire's weird. He has personality and charisma, I'm just not sure what it is. He's nothing great, but I can't help but watch him when he's on TV. O'haire is one of those guys I got a feeling could be a huge star with the right gimmick and a little more experience in the ring. Fuck if I know what that gimmick should be, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 I like his current gimmick. I'm surprised WWE didn't try to bring him in as generic wwe talent #2397 and have him as the big new underdog (read: orlando jordon (or was it jones?)) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 Give Val Venis the same gimmick that O'Haire was going to use, and watch him do it 5,000 times better. He's got the creepy voice, he's a good actor, he's a pretty good wrestler--he just needs a goatee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted September 13, 2003 He just really fucking sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 Venis sucks? Yes. I've never liked him tbth, but he can never be anything more than his current porn gimmick, (see: RTC, Sean Morley) Maybe i'm the only guy who didn't like the COS gimmick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted September 13, 2003 I was talking about O'Haire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 O'Haire doing that devils advocate gimmick reminded me of a bigger, less talented Raven. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 I know that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2003 O'Haire doing that devils advocate gimmick reminded me of a bigger, less talented Raven. I dont know about that, but now you mention it... no, i still dont know about that. O'haire does have a unique look about him though, THAT's why he's not compared to other green workers like the aforementioned Conway and Grenier, but then again, i dont consider the man to be green. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
