Golgo 13 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 It's not exactly legal, but the season five episodes haven't yet been commercially released as part of the season five set, obviously. So there's no infringing on profit here, and those offering downloads aren't profiting either; which is one of the criteria for copyright infringement, I believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 You know, I think the Dragon as the same one that came through during "The Gift." And I think the powers will take pitty on Angel and make him human, along with Spike. It takes a true champion to sign away your one gaurenteed shot at happiness just to save the day. And now the only show I have to look forward to is Smallville, and I don't always watch that show anyways. I think I'll just tape it and watch it later. Damn if I'm going to give the WB any ratings next year. Fuck the Frog. How do we know that Angel signing away the Shanshu wasn't the selfless act that caused it to come true? Like a test or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest reekspeak Report post Posted May 20, 2004 I find it interesting how in Chosen, they finished off the "series story" but most of the characters' stories seemed unfulfilled while in "Not Fade Away", the characters' stories seemed finished but the "series story" was left hanging. To me, it's a good example of how different the shows were and how different the stories told were. Hopefully that makes sense... it did to me until I actually typed it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 Here's how I see it- they are all fighting, Illyra's pissed, so she manag4s to slow down time- and they win. I don't know. I don't think the device that took her powers away left any of that, Wesley was pretty adamnt that after the fact "she won't be slowing time anymore" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 man I got to go watch the tape again, I missed some live as the yanks were busy beating the angels (ironic no?) but it was incredible. a bit rushed, but good . and hey I was having trouble sleeping thinking of all the possibilities, not that's a good show. too bad I initially wrote off buffy/angel as lame or dumb. I wish I had been watching for eight years, but there are always re-runs and dvd sets. my fav scene was oddly, the next to last conversation of wes and illyria. He said that he didn't want to be lied to, as he didn't plan to die that night, though he knew one way or the other, he was done. and bringing back the shelter leader anne was gold, cuz her character dates all the way back to like the second season, when she wanted to become a vampire then when she ran into buffy in la at the beginning of season 3, later to show up on angel and btw, what happened to Lorne? do you think any demons went after him, or maybe he was spared since all he did was killy lindsey, who the sps hated anyway? If he was spared, I'd bet he went back to vegas or somethin or opened a new club somewhere in new york, or atlantic city or somethin. nice cliffhanger ending, even if we get no movies or new series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 man I got to go watch the tape again, I missed some live as the yanks were busy beating the angels (ironic no?) but it was incredible. a bit rushed, but good . and hey I was having trouble sleeping thinking of all the possibilities, not that's a good show. too bad I initially wrote off buffy/angel as lame or dumb. I wish I had been watching for eight years, but there are always re-runs and dvd sets. my fav scene was oddly, the next to last conversation of wes and illyria. He said that he didn't want to be lied to, as he didn't plan to die that night, though he knew one way or the other, he was done. and bringing back the shelter leader anne was gold, cuz her character dates all the way back to like the second season, when she wanted to become a vampire then when she ran into buffy in la at the beginning of season 3, later to show up on angel and btw, what happened to Lorne? do you think any demons went after him, or maybe he was spared since all he did was killy lindsey, who the sps hated anyway? If he was spared, I'd bet he went back to vegas or somethin or opened a new club somewhere in new york, or atlantic city or somethin. nice cliffhanger ending, even if we get no movies or new series. Wait....I know she's the shelter lady from Angel Season 2, but I didn't know she was the girl from the Buffy episode "Anne"?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 man I got to go watch the tape again, I missed some live as the yanks were busy beating the angels (ironic no?) but it was incredible. a bit rushed, but good . and hey I was having trouble sleeping thinking of all the possibilities, not that's a good show. too bad I initially wrote off buffy/angel as lame or dumb. I wish I had been watching for eight years, but there are always re-runs and dvd sets. my fav scene was oddly, the next to last conversation of wes and illyria. He said that he didn't want to be lied to, as he didn't plan to die that night, though he knew one way or the other, he was done. and bringing back the shelter leader anne was gold, cuz her character dates all the way back to like the second season, when she wanted to become a vampire then when she ran into buffy in la at the beginning of season 3, later to show up on angel and btw, what happened to Lorne? do you think any demons went after him, or maybe he was spared since all he did was killy lindsey, who the sps hated anyway? If he was spared, I'd bet he went back to vegas or somethin or opened a new club somewhere in new york, or atlantic city or somethin. nice cliffhanger ending, even if we get no movies or new series. Wait....I know she's the shelter lady from Angel Season 2, but I didn't know she was the girl from the Buffy episode "Anne"?? Yeah...she dates back to season 2 Buffy in Lie to me. She was mushroom girl, to what ever her name was in Anne, and changed her name again to Anne. THAT my friends is continuity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 For the record. I *hate* Anne (the character). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 For the record. I *hate* Anne (the character). Why? That girl had just as much character development as anyone on TV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 Yeah...she dates back to season 2 Buffy in Lie to me. She was mushroom girl, to what ever her name was in Anne, and changed her name again to Anne. THAT my friends is continuity. I believe her name was Lily when she showed up in the 'Anne' episode, and at the end when Buffy went back to Sunnydale she asked if she could be 'Anne' - but yeah, Joss rules with continuity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 Except it all probably went over the heads of most fans. I had no idea it was the same girl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 Except it all probably went over the heads of most fans. I had no idea it was the same girl. Casual fans? Sure. Freaks like me who even noticed that Tom Lenk played one of Harmony's vampire lackies in Season Five? Nope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anakin Flair 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 Yeah...she dates back to season 2 Buffy in Lie to me. She was mushroom girl, to what ever her name was in Anne, and changed her name again to Anne. THAT my friends is continuity. I believe her name was Lily when she showed up in the 'Anne' episode, and at the end when Buffy went back to Sunnydale she asked if she could be 'Anne' - but yeah, Joss rules with continuity. I KNEW that was the same girl! At least there was one happy ending in the Buffyverse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 yea, she got the name anne from buffy, who used that alias when she moved to la for the summer after season 2 (when she killed angel) and yea she was kinda annoying but at least we have continuity TAKE THAT WWE BOOKERS!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anakin Flair 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 Here's how I see it- they are all fighting, Illyra's pissed, so she manag4s to slow down time- and they win. I don't know. I don't think the device that took her powers away left any of that, Wesley was pretty adamnt that after the fact "she won't be slowing time anymore" Ah, let me dream Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 its funny looking around the net at people trying to think of ways they got out of it alive. That is dedication to ones show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravenbomb 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 not me, I say they're all dead. Just cause that'd be the best death for them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 I hate Anne because 1) She was such a clingly lil bitch in "Anne" 2) She took the goddamn money from WR&H and has tunnel vision when it comes to her "house". 3) I don't find her particularly attractive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 its funny looking around the net at people trying to think of ways they got out of it alive. That is dedication to ones show. Ripper, the answer is obvious Just when they all look dead and hope is lost... Out walks THE IMMORTAL! Unless Buffy screwed him to death, then they are dead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted May 20, 2004 I like Anne if only for her constant character development. I have no interest in debating the subject, though. Getting back to the end of "Angel." There is always the possibility the Scooby Gang jumped in and saved Team Angel. It would make an awesome first scene of a movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 The Scooby Gang? A one eyed man, a witch and Buffy saving a half goddess, two vampires with a soul and a pissed off Gunn with an ax? Sorry, but if the Scooby Gang appeared they would be dead in 10 seconds. Well, maybe not Willow but one eye would be gone and done. I like the Gang and all, but they would be no help against that enemy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackFlagg 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 The Scooby Gang? A one eyed man, a witch and Buffy saving a half goddess, two vampires with a soul and a pissed off Gunn with an ax? Sorry, but if the Scooby Gang appeared they would be dead in 10 seconds. Well, maybe not Willow but one eye would be gone and done. I like the Gang and all, but they would be no help against that enemy. Well I'm sure if they came they'd bring an army of Slayers with em.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 This gives me a thought... WHO WOULD WIN?!??! Xander vs. Gunn! Willow vs. Illyria! Buffy vs. Angel! Giles vs. Wesley! Andrew vs. Lorne! Spike BS vs. Spike AS! ????????????????! *assume all are in their current/last known form (Wes is assumed to be very alive; Gunn is mortally wounded and Xander is eyeless). Everyone cept for Spike, who is catagorized before and after sacrificing himself for the world in Chosen.* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 This gives me a thought... WHO WOULD WIN?!??! Xander vs. Gunn! Willow vs. Illyria! Buffy vs. Angel! Giles vs. Wesley! Andrew vs. Lorne! Spike BS vs. Spike AS! ????????????????! *assume all are in their current/last known form (Wes is assumed to be very alive; Gunn is mortally wounded and Xander is eyeless). Everyone cept for Spike, who is catagorized before and after sacrificing himself for the world in Chosen.* Gunn, because Xander can't fight. But do you mean end of season Gunn or before hurt Gunn? Plus, Xander has one eye so he'll have a blind spot. Illyria. I'm sorry, love Willow but Illyria would snap her in two Angel. He's not arrogant Angelus so he wouldn't screw around if he needed to kill her. Giles. Because he is just one dangerous man. He reminds me of Bill from Kill Bill at times. Lorne. Cause Lorne has killed and can dress like Shaft when he needs too. Spike AS. Because he SUCKED as a fighter when he became good on Buffy. Didn't suck as much on Angel. So, I have it Team Angel-5 Team Buffy- 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest reekspeak Report post Posted May 20, 2004 Xander vs. Gunn! Willow vs. Illyria! Buffy vs. Angel! Giles vs. Wesley! Andrew vs. Lorne! Spike BS vs. Spike AS! Scoobies - 2 Fang Gang - 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 20, 2004 I was thinging of a lot of stuff today, mainly about the Sanshu. Do you think the first could have known about this and that's the reason it attempted to coop Spike during Season 7? Also, I remember in an earlier episode thatSpike said something along the lines of "maybe guys like us can't be saved" when talking about being in the hell dimension. Another great reasoning leading up to Angel doing what he did. And also, as for a Connor series, it'd be pretty awesome if he ended up with flashback of Quar'toth. He could eventually bgo psychotic trying to repress these. As for Angel, the W&H blood coursing through him could make him invariably stronger and might have evened things up more. As for Gunn, when he went back to the shelter, was he looking for the gang to help him out? Because that would have been a pretty good idea given the odds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravenbomb 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 Ripper, the answer is obvious Just when they all look dead and hope is lost... Out walks THE IMMORTAL! Unless Buffy screwed him to death, then they are dead. No, there's only one person who can screw The Immortal to death: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 20, 2004 I love all the biblical references: "Looks like we've been kicked out of the garden Eve." And this little Illyria/Wes exchange: "Your wound is mortal." "Aren't we all." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted May 20, 2004 The Scooby Gang? A one eyed man, a witch and Buffy saving a half goddess, two vampires with a soul and a pissed off Gunn with an ax? Sorry, but if the Scooby Gang appeared they would be dead in 10 seconds. Well, maybe not Willow but one eye would be gone and done. I like the Gang and all, but they would be no help against that enemy. Well, Buffy IS stronger than Angel (just a bit, though). There's also Faith (possibly), Willow, Wood (again, only possibly), and the army of slayers. They would be a HUGE help. Especially if Willow could get them all away with a teleportation spell. I'm sure she could even use those tatoos that block the Senior Partners as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 Well the show _is_ called "Angel" I'm kinda sad they killed off Izzy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites