Guest Brian Posted September 10, 2004 Report Posted September 10, 2004 Fuck. I love Awakening. I love the little things to it, like Connor repeating part of Angel's speech from "Deep Down", Wes apologizing, and Connor being pretty likeable at the end. And then Lilah says it again in "Home". This episode is so fucking rocking it.
Jericholic82 Posted September 10, 2004 Report Posted September 10, 2004 one quick query for you guys, what's up with all this love for Beast? What's so cool about him, he was a lame puppydog puppet for Cordy/Jasmine and got beat by a piece of himself, pretty lame for the all powerful one. I guess you guys think hes a better villian than evil cordelia(probably right there) or even jasmine or somethin right? Hey, dipshit, use the fucking SPOILER tags, m'kay? OOOH Im very sorry!!!!! I thought everyone on here had already seen s4. My bad. How do you do the spoiler tags anyhow? once again I am so sorry honestly
dubq Posted September 10, 2004 Report Posted September 10, 2004 one quick query for you guys, what's up with all this love for Beast? What's so cool about him, he was a lame puppydog puppet for Cordy/Jasmine and got beat by a piece of himself, pretty lame for the all powerful one. I guess you guys think hes a better villian than evil cordelia(probably right there) or even jasmine or somethin right? Hey, dipshit, use the fucking SPOILER tags, m'kay? OOOH Im very sorry!!!!! I thought everyone on here had already seen s4. My bad. How do you do the spoiler tags anyhow? once again I am so sorry honestly Eh, sorry for freaking out - I was just in a bad mood when I wrote that anyway. Spoiler tags, for future reference are (spoiler) SPOILER TEXT HERE (/spoiler) -- but use [ ] brackets instead.
Youth N Asia Posted September 10, 2004 Report Posted September 10, 2004 Would it kill them to be a little more creative with the DVD boxart? Season 1, Angel in the forground, Cordy in the background, vamp Angel pic in the corner. Season 2, Angel in the forground, Cordy in the background, vamp Angel pic in the corner. Season 3, Angel in the forground, Cordy in the background, vamp Angel pic in the corner. Season 4, Angel in the forground, Cordy in the background, vamp Angel pic in the corner.
Anya Posted September 10, 2004 Report Posted September 10, 2004 Everything isn't supposed to be 100% peachy keen all of the time. Yeah, but that doesn't mean I can't be sad when something does go bad for my characters. It's going to suck when S5 doesn't follow the formula. So it'll be Angel/Cordy except for one...
Mole Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 Aww, "AN" on commentary was the highlight of my week. And I went back to school the same day.
Guest Brian Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 What about "Spin The Bottle" commentary? We need to just go down the list and watch Season 4 together. All working on the same episodes, maybe starting with a tournament theme.
Anya Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 They need more commentary from the cast. They should re-release the DVDs with commentary for every ep. Commentary is great.
Guest Brian Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 Same toast from Deep Down and Home. So much good continuity.
Anya Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 Gavin dying sucks. He was better than Lindsay.
Guest Brian Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 HEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO!
Mole Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 What about "Spin The Bottle" commentary? We need to just go down the list and watch Season 4 together. All working on the same episodes, maybe starting with a tournament theme. Yeah, "Spin the Bottle" commentary was awesome. However "AN" is my favorite episode, you know that Brian, so listening them talk about it is awesome. Epsecially hearing them rant about how amazing the episode is.
Guest Brian Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 Of course. But listening to Wes and Joss was a big highlight for me. Go vote in the tournament.
Anya Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 I can't wait to hear the commentary on Selfless. Gavin looks a lot more intimidating than lindsay.
Guest Brian Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 Lindsay was so great. Gavin had nothing on him, because Lindsay embodied this ambiguously moral character that they never let him develop into. Plus, Lindsay was a badass swordfighter.
Anya Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 Gavin just comes off as really creepy. I like it whenever he or Lindsay would argue with Lilah.
Ravenbomb Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 Plus, Lindsay was a badass swordfighter. ever see Secondhand Lions?
Youth N Asia Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 Gavin's cool, but he had no balls. Lindsey got stuff done...or at least tried.
Ravenbomb Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 I hated Gavin, he was so annoying
Anakin Flair Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 I did a happy dance when The BEAST~ killed Gavin. I hated that little creep. Ok, I just found this for sale on ebay: Buffy/Willow manip IT's kind of sad when bad internet porn is put up for auction.
Guest Brian Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 Tons of new stuff: 1727- Liam is born in Galway, Ireland. 1753 - Sired in Ireland. Massacres the entire village, including his family. 1753-60 - Ravages Northern Ireland and Southern Wales. 1760 - (London, England) Meets the master. 1764 - (York, England) Holtz is already on the hunt for Angellus and Darla, where they slay his family. 1765 - Followed by Holtz, Darla and Angel take refuge in a barn in France before their cover is blown. Darla ditches Angellus. 1765-6 - Angellus catches up with Darla in Vienna. 1767 - (Marseilles, France) In transit to Morocco while fleeing Holtz. Traveling with James, Darla, and Elizabeth. 1771 - (Rome) The monsignor assists Holtz in his capture and torture of Angellus before Darla arrives with reinforcements to bail him out. I'm pretty sure this is the last confrontation between the two. 1789 - (Prussia) Angel is on route to Vienna when he meets the Beast. Angel is beat to near death before the Beast is banished. 1799 - Angel sires Penn. 1818 - (Dublin, Ireland) Kills Daniel on Christmas. 1838 - Romania 1845 - Tuscany, Italy 1860 - (London, England) Angel sires Dru, who once had the visions. 1860-80 - Traveling, at some point was in Budapest. 1880 - (London) Dru turns Spike. Darla has left Angelus for the master. The three massacre a wedding. Spike finds Angel messing with Dru after telling him she was his "destiny". And the two fight, with Angel prevailing and giving the young'un a lesson. 1880 - (Yorkshire, England) On the run from London, the four take refuge in a coal mine during the day. 1890 - Angellus is watching Jezel (ballet) by the Valiznikov troupe. I'm assumingthis is in St. Petersburg. 1894 - (Rome, Italy) - Being tied up with Spike so the Immortal can have a three-way. 1898 - (Borsa, Romania) Ensouled after murdering a gypsy girl that Darla brought Angel. 1900 - (China) - Angel tries to reunite with Darla during the Boxer Rebellion. Spike defeats a slayer. 1902 - (New York, New York) Angel arrives in the US. 1920s - (Chicago, IL) Angel saves a puppy 1920s - (Juarez, Mexico) Angel fights Boone over a senorita for three and a half days before the sun comes up and Boone lets up. 1930s - (Las Vegas, NV) Hanging with Bugsy Segal. 1930s - (Missoula, Montana) Reasons unknown, passed through during the Depression. 1943 - (Atlantic Ocean) Angel is being used by the US government to help recover a captured sub. 1952 - (Los Angeles, CA) - Angel is at the Hyperion where a poltergeist is in control of the hotel. Angel is hung and leaves before he can slay the ghost. Early-Mid 60's - (Las Vegas, NV) Hung out with the Rat Pack at the Sands. 5/1/67 - Angel attends Elvis' wedding at the Aladdin Hotel in Las Vegas. 9/11/67 - (Hollywood) Attended first taping of Carol Burnett Show. 1975/6 - Angel drinks from a restaurant owner who's been shot, spends the next twenty years drinking from rats and living in alleys. 1996 - Whistler, working for the PTB and trying to restore a balance between good and evil, offers to pick up Angel and get him started. Angel is wandering the streets of Manhattan. He shows him Buffy in Los Angeles.1727- Liam is born in Galway, Ireland.
Ravenbomb Posted September 12, 2004 Report Posted September 12, 2004 Okay, I just watched Tomorrow and I think I noticed something When Cordelia is rising up, there are little flickers of energy around what I assume is the portal (it's where the light is coming from). Is it just me or did they look like the ones from the portal to Quar-Toth that Connor came back through?
Mole Posted September 12, 2004 Report Posted September 12, 2004 Okay, I just watched Tomorrow and I think I noticed something When Cordelia is rising up, there are little flickers of energy around what I assume is the portal (it's where the light is coming from). Is it just me or did they look like the ones from the portal to Quar-Toth that Connor came back through? I think that it was just cheaper for them to use old SE.
Guest Brian Posted September 12, 2004 Report Posted September 12, 2004 "Home" is so beautiful. Everything comes together so well. Blood magic. The "Champion" speech. Love is sacrifice (which goes all the way back to "Heartthrob, not just Sacrifice). Free will. The Father Will Kill the Son. The better lie. Saving his family. It's like "The Gift".
RavishingRickRudo Posted September 12, 2004 Report Posted September 12, 2004 It's up there in Gift territory in terms of resolution. It "fit" the Connor Saga so perfectly and it went against everything that Angel was fighting for against Jasmine (free will), but since it was his son and he was a father, it changed his normal view on things.
Mole Posted September 12, 2004 Report Posted September 12, 2004 Just another reason why season 4 of Angel is the best season in the Buffyverse.
Anya Posted September 12, 2004 Report Posted September 12, 2004 I'm having trouble getting into Angel S4 now, watching it on DVD. Darkness Falls is kind of cool.
Tawren Posted September 12, 2004 Report Posted September 12, 2004 I'm through Inside Out, so just starting the actual Jasmine arc. Incredible season, even better on DVD really. I don't like Evil Cordy, but she didn't seem as annoying as she did last time I watched season 4. I love this.
Mole Posted September 12, 2004 Report Posted September 12, 2004 I'm having trouble getting into Angel S4 now, watching it on DVD. And why is this the case?
Youth N Asia Posted September 12, 2004 Report Posted September 12, 2004 I thought 4 started a little slow, then picked up great for the middle run...but once Jasmine showed up I got the "what the hell is this now?" feeling. But everything with The Beast is just some of the best Buffyverse stuff ever
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