BoboBrazil 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2003 -Jeff and Jerry Jarrett met with Hulk Hogan and Jimmy Hart in Tampa on 9/12. The meeting lasted 4 hours. Meltzer says he don't know if it came up, but Hogan would most likely force Russo out. He says one source very close to the negotiations said that Hogan doesn't have to demand anything regarding Russo, because it will end up that way whether he comes in or not. -Dutch Mantel is making twice what he did with IWA. This appears to be the final straw in Russo losing power, although as talent he was featured more prominently on the 9/17 show than he had been in several weeks. -The contract signing situation went very well. Almost everyone signed the deal, which gives them to TNA for basically two years(one year, and a 2nd year company option, although wrestlers say there 26 dates is also written in the contract elsewhere). Shane Douglas hasn't signed, but with a few changes the company expects him to immediately. Juventud Guerrera hasn't been offered a contract, but it is expected that he will. Chris Harris, Jerry Lynn, James Storm, and Raven were already under long term agreement, as was Styles and Styles has renewed for another year plus the option. Vampiro hasn't signed, but noone expects him to be around long term. Konnan hasn't signed a new deal, but his old one doesn't run out until February. He has had offers lately from WWE due to Rey Mysterio Jr. Those confirmed having signed are Mike Tenay, B.G. James, Ron Killings, D'lo Brown, Trinity, Erik Watts, Michael Shane, Chris Sabin, Frankie Kazarian, Chris Daniels, Simon Diamond, Johnny Swinger, Jim Mitchell, and Don Callis. -Teddy Hart is coming back due to the strong fan reaction. He wasn't brought in for the 9/17 show, because TNA is trying to work out a deal with him where Hart is stationed near Nashville for a few weeks at a time, so they don't have to pay transportation every week, plus they can book him to other promoters to help recoup some of the transfer costs they would have to pay to bring him in those times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trevor567 Report post Posted September 28, 2003 Any news on people like Kid Kash, Cm Punk or Elix Skipper? Also, what are the chances of Hogan coming in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2003 Some of that made sense. Russo losing power...and maybe being forced out altogether... People signing contracts without much to do about anything... Logic in trying to get Teddy Hart back... Juvi maybe getting a contract... *head explodes* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2003 I think Kash already has a contract (well...I know he does...but I think it runs for quite a while still). His name has come up as someone the WWE is looking at a few times...but he's locked down for at least the short term. Skipper I don't know. I would have assumed they offered him one...but then again...I would have assumed he wouldn't be stuck on Xplosion every week. Punk, IIRC from another article DID sign a contract but he forced TNA to compromise on certain issues (like the whole "streamlining" storylines between the other indys which was a MAJOR problem with Punk more than anyone). I know I read that he had worked that out with them...so I assume he's signed too. On Hogan...the only thing I've seen is that no one really knows how the meeting went for sure...but no one would be surprised if he came in for a one shot deal and then they'd see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cynicalprofit 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2003 When has Hogan not become a cancer, keep him away Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoboBrazil 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2003 Hogan would help them as long as he doesn't have creative control or force them to take his buddies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2003 Hogan would help them as long as he doesn't have creative control or force them to take his buddies. After I read the news about Hogan bitching just because Angle and Lesnar got more focus than him in the 6-man tag team match on Smackdown before he left, I don't think he's changed at all. He's still the whining old son of a bitch we've known him as for several years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Max Peter David Report post Posted September 28, 2003 I don't give a shit, if he drives Russo out of the creative team, I'll be Hulkamaniac number one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Randy Pan Report post Posted September 28, 2003 What I dont get about Hogan is that when he left the WWE, it was said to be an issue that can be solved with a payrise (His WMXIX payout was a big factor for leaving) How much do you think he would earn on TNA? I think it will never happen long term and tna would struggle for one or two appearances. If Hogan wants the money, he better make some friends while he is in Japan, and hopefully stay there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2003 I don't give a shit, if he drives Russo out of the creative team, I'll be Hulkamaniac number one. Maybe, but what if Hogan starts having AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels job to him by using politics? Hogan and Russo are both evil, you know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2003 Hogan would help TNA because of his star power. There are tons of people who still love Hogan, so if they advertise Hogan being on TNA, I believe people will buy the PPVs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2003 Hogan would help TNA because of his star power. There are tons of people who still love Hogan, so if they advertise Hogan being on TNA, I believe people will buy the PPVs. Yeah, they'll be seeing AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels, two of TNA's most popular heels (although one has a weak title reign), job to him, and then he'll team up with Raven against the New Church just so Hogan can hog Raven's spotlight away from him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Doyo Report post Posted September 29, 2003 Hogan wouldn't have to use any politics to get anybody on that roster, except maybe Jeff Jarrett, to job to him. They would consider it an honor. It would be a given that Hogan would get the title, if he agreed to be there for any length of time. The key would be to get him to agree to lose the title cleanly to someone, to make them the next big wrestling star. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustJoe2k5 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2003 I wouldn't mind seeing a "match" between Hulk Hogan and Vince Russo on TNA. They could build it off the true hatred the two have for each other and it would definitely bring in some buys. Load the rest of the card with good matches involving regulars and TNA could gain more exposure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cynicalprofit 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2003 The fact that we cant say how big of a cancer he will be shows exactly why he shouldnt be brought in. If he can pop a rating, big deal, look at the long term, not the short. That was Vinces mistake for bringing in Hogan Hall and Nash and expecting something big from the nWo, and look what happeend there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Burning Hammer Report post Posted September 29, 2003 Unfortunately for a promotion the size of TNA having Hogan come in would do wonders for them. It would make them look big league, like they stole Hogan from McMahon. I am not entertained by Hogan but his star power is still there. We are not that far removed from his Wrestlemania appearance with Rock that drew a lot of money. From an economic standpoint it would be good, especially if it would help them get a tv deal which it probably would, since Hogan is still seen as a big star. On the flip side you would have to deal with him and his giant fucking ego. Problems with him not putting over the talent you wanted him to. What if TNA wanted to put Styles or Raven over him? Would Hogan do it? AJ and Raven our pretty much the centerpieces of that promotion whether Jeff Jarrett likes it or not. If Hogan wouldn't put your top guys over then bringing him in becomes a huge problem. The only other way that he does good things for them is if you bring him in but totally keep him away from your world title scene and keep him in a feud with one guy, which would most likely be Jeff Jarrett. That way you can still benefit from Hogan and the money he can make you but also can minimize all the fucking bullshit he brings with him. The only problem with this of course is who wants to see JJ feud with Hogan? I guess I wouldn't mind as long as it didn't dominate the whole fucking show like Hogan/McMahon did and the main events still featured their main players. That would be the best way to maximize Hogan's waning drawing power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted September 29, 2003 <-----cringes at the thought of Hogan as NWA Champion...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Randy Pan Report post Posted September 29, 2003 ^^^ AAAAHRG!!!!*(&()*$(*)&^# Hogan put WCW on the map. I doubt he would do the same for TNA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Open the Muggy Gate 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2003 Forgot all this Hogan talk... Teddy Hart's coming back to TNA!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldSchoolWrestling 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2003 I can see Hogan coming on with a Sting type deal. He does a match, they tape an interview that gets shown over the next couple months. He gets jobs for Jimmy Hart, Brutus Beefcake, Brian Knobs. Then he tries to get Vince to hire him for WMXX. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2003 On the flip side you would have to deal with him and his giant fucking ego. Problems with him not putting over the talent you wanted him to. What if TNA wanted to put Styles or Raven over him? Would Hogan do it? AJ and Raven our pretty much the centerpieces of that promotion whether Jeff Jarrett likes it or not. If Hogan wouldn't put your top guys over then bringing him in becomes a huge problem. They should put it in his contract, that way he has to job to one of the two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LucharesuFan619 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2003 -Jeff and Jerry Jarrett met with Hulk Hogan and Jimmy Hart in Tampa on 9/12. The meeting lasted 4 hours. Meltzer says he don't know if it came up, but Hogan would most likely force Russo out. He says one source very close to the negotiations said that Hogan doesn't have to demand anything regarding Russo, because it will end up that way whether he comes in or not. -Dutch Mantel is making twice what he did with IWA. This appears to be the final straw in Russo losing power, although as talent he was featured more prominently on the 9/17 show than he had been in several weeks. -The contract signing situation went very well. Almost everyone signed the deal, which gives them to TNA for basically two years(one year, and a 2nd year company option, although wrestlers say there 26 dates is also written in the contract elsewhere). Shane Douglas hasn't signed, but with a few changes the company expects him to immediately. Juventud Guerrera hasn't been offered a contract, but it is expected that he will. Chris Harris, Jerry Lynn, James Storm, and Raven were already under long term agreement, as was Styles and Styles has renewed for another year plus the option. Vampiro hasn't signed, but noone expects him to be around long term. Konnan hasn't signed a new deal, but his old one doesn't run out until February. He has had offers lately from WWE due to Rey Mysterio Jr. Those confirmed having signed are Mike Tenay, B.G. James, Ron Killings, D'lo Brown, Trinity, Erik Watts, Michael Shane, Chris Sabin, Frankie Kazarian, Chris Daniels, Simon Diamond, Johnny Swinger, Jim Mitchell, and Don Callis. -Teddy Hart is coming back due to the strong fan reaction. He wasn't brought in for the 9/17 show, because TNA is trying to work out a deal with him where Hart is stationed near Nashville for a few weeks at a time, so they don't have to pay transportation every week, plus they can book him to other promoters to help recoup some of the transfer costs they would have to pay to bring him in those times. It's interesting that Jeff and Hogan are meeting again. I thought Hogan would never speak to Jeff again after Bash at the Beach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TDinDC1112 Report post Posted September 29, 2003 Hogan would help them as long as he doesn't have creative control or force them to take his buddies. After I read the news about Hogan bitching just because Angle and Lesnar got more focus than him in the 6-man tag team match on Smackdown before he left, I don't think he's changed at all. He's still the whining old son of a bitch we've known him as for several years. I belive Hogan was actually upset that the match is scripted basically and there was no ability to play to the crowd and change things up based on emotion. The crowd was clamoring for Hogan to get in there, but they couldn't give it to them because everything in WWE is scripted. That's what wrestling is all about - Emotion, and playing to the crowd. If people are concerned about TNA being successful and succeeding, then he should come in even for 1 shot. If you care about Daniels or AJ jobbing to Hogan (it is fake, right?) and match quality and want TNA to continue getting 7500 buys a week, then don't bring him in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoboBrazil 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2003 It's interesting that Jeff and Hogan are meeting again. I thought Hogan would never speak to Jeff again after Bash at the Beach. Hogan has no problem with Jeff Jarrett. The whole thing where he laid down for Hogan was planned out. The only thing that wasn't supposed to happen(and why Hogan got mad) was Russo's shoot comments afterwards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2003 Forgot all this Hogan talk... Teddy Hart's coming back to TNA!! Dude forget that...the WWE has interest in KONNAN!?! Man, Vince is either clueless as hell, or about to get really lucky. As for Hogan...anyone who reckons this proposed move won't bring more fans in is an idiot. ^^^ AAAAHRG!!!!*(&()*$(*)&^# Hogan put WCW on the map. I doubt he would do the same for TNA. Ahem...hell no. FLAIR put WCW on the map. Not to mention Dusty, Race, Sting and others. Hogan gave WCW it's biggest neilsen ratings. WCW was 'on the map' way before Hogan singed though. As for TNA, like I said, anyone who thinks this won't highlight TNA to the WWE mark community more is an idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted September 29, 2003 NWA/WCW was struggling to stay afloat until Turner Pumped Gallons of Green in WCW when Hogan arrived... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TDinDC1112 Report post Posted September 30, 2003 Forgot all this Hogan talk... Teddy Hart's coming back to TNA!! Dude forget that...the WWE has interest in KONNAN!?! Man, Vince is either clueless as hell, or about to get really lucky. As for Hogan...anyone who reckons this proposed move won't bring more fans in is an idiot. ^^^ AAAAHRG!!!!*(&()*$(*)&^# Hogan put WCW on the map. I doubt he would do the same for TNA. Ahem...hell no. FLAIR put WCW on the map. Not to mention Dusty, Race, Sting and others. Hogan gave WCW it's biggest neilsen ratings. WCW was 'on the map' way before Hogan singed though. As for TNA, like I said, anyone who thinks this won't highlight TNA to the WWE mark community more is an idiot. Flair didn't put WCW on the map. WCW wasn't anything until Hogan arrived. WCW struggled to get 1,000 people to house shows and before Hogan arrived. WCW would have never been a major player, never would have got Nitro, etc. if Hogan (and later Savage, Hall, and Nash) wouldn't have come. Flair might have put them on the map as far as wrestling quality (and that doesn't equate to $$$), Hogan put them on the map as a profitable company. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted September 30, 2003 Also factor in that Flair couldn't draw with GREAT wrestling in 1989... People tend to forget that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JacK Report post Posted September 30, 2003 As much as I hate Hogan, you gotta say a short termish deal would be good for them, as long as they don't go overboard. Like ruining everyones credibility to make him look good. One thing they HAVE to do with both him and Sting is to job them cleanly to Styles, to make him the next big star that he should be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted October 2, 2003 Hogans not coming in unless he gets a TV deal - Hogan was bitching about high 5 figure payouts on the WWE ppv's for what was essentially bonus payments - do you think he'd come in for a regular salary that 1/5 of that if that? anyway, f*ck hogan. he always raises interest, then kills everything by being the main focus and providing shitty wrestling. niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
