JangoFett4Hire 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2003 NL5, but bob barron writes self-important reviews of a show that is 10 years past past its prime and musters up letters to the editor from imaginary friends, surely his opinion of our humble hometown MUST mean something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted October 7, 2003 We'd be better off without Boston and NYC...oh and New Jersey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JangoFett4Hire 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2003 Without Boston we'd still be part of the UK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2003 Without Boston we'd still be part of the UK. Yeah, because they never would've taken, say, the Richmond Tea Party seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2003 It was pretty dumb with all the rioting and such. Geez, it's the ALDS. It was a great win and all, but let's show some restraint here. But of course, the majority of the rioting was done by drunk BU and UMass Amherst kids, so they'd riot if they got B's on their finals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2003 I think that most fans - regardless of where they are - would over-react if they're team came back from being one game away from elimination to winning the series. Especially if one game went to extra innings, the second wasn't decided until the 8th inning, and the final one ended with a bases loaded strikeout in a one run game. There's overreacting and there's turning over cars and causing damage. I kicked a chair when Sheffield GIDP in Game 5- that's overreacting. I didn't go and turn over a car when the Braves swept the Astros in 1999. And, lastly, count me as someone that doesn't give a shit how the rest of the country/world feels about Boston or Red Sox fans. Yet you are defending Boston a bit despite not caring what I think. I'll still sleep at night knowing that people look down on my city for some idiot imported college kids going apeshit in a drunken stupor. And as long as it's not my car that's getting flipped, I don't even really care about the the local ones that went out and rioted. That's fine. I still think it's retarded to riot and overturn cars just because you were able to make it past the first round. I hate Braves fans for their apathy towards the team and I would Boston fans if they rioted after every little victory. NL5, but bob barron writes self-important reviews of a show that is 10 years past past its prime and musters up letters to the editor from imaginary friends, surely his opinion of our humble hometown MUST mean something? You're implying that the 93-94 season was some sort of comedy peak for SNL. 93-94 was pretty much the official end of the glory days of SNL that they had built up from 1986. So saying SNL is 10 years past his prime just shows you pure ignorance. And the letters I get are all completely 100% rule. Without Boston we'd still be part of the UK. Whatever you say Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JangoFett4Hire 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2003 Without Boston we'd still be part of the UK. Yeah, because they never would've taken, say, the Richmond Tea Party seriously. I dunno, how about the Minutemen, the Adams, Paul Revere... and maybe you should stay away from making remarks about independence from Britain until you get the Queen off your money, eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JangoFett4Hire 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2003 "You're implying that the 93-94 season was some sort of comedy peak for SNL. 93-94 was pretty much the official end of the glory days of SNL that they had built up from 1986. So saying SNL is 10 years past his prime just shows you pure ignorance." Sorry BB, if I can call you that, I'm usually out doing something fun on Saturday nights, NOT thinking about SNL. Pardon my ignorance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2003 But of course, the majority of the rioting was done by drunk BU and UMass Amherst kids, so they'd riot if they got B's on their finals. Off topic, but I had to laugh at that since my ex goes to Amherst, and I can picture the dweebs from up there thinking that they were doing something cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2003 I almost went to Amherst, but the manditory nightly Breathalyzer and "recite the alpahabet" tests kind of put me off. And the fact that the President's (at the time) brother is a wanted Mob boss on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted List. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2003 There's overreacting and there's turning over cars and causing damage. I kicked a chair when Sheffield GIDP in Game 5- that's overreacting. I didn't go and turn over a car when the Braves swept the Astros in 1999. Not to step on your toes, Bob, but they didn't sweep the Astros in 1999. Houston actually took the first game in Atlanta before promptly dropping three straight (unless you count that as a sweep - I don't). Braves swept them in 1997 and then again in 2001. But NOT 1999. I mean, let's give the Astros some credit here - they did win ONE of those 10 games! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jay Z. Hollywood Report post Posted October 7, 2003 Dude, Zack, don't put BU and Amherst students in the same sentence- we're not even in the same species. Besides, it was mostly Northeastern kids. Yeah, the riot was probably overblown, but come on, criticizing people because they're happy we made a dramatic three game comeback, I mean, come on. It was awesome, and it was a game, in prior instances, the Sox would have lost. And as for the "we"- it's just team loyalty dude, a sense of kinship with the team. I root for BU hockey and call them "we" even though I don't play for them- most people do. That's just splitting hairs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2003 I apologise- I meant 2001. Or 1997. One of those two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just Looking Report post Posted October 7, 2003 Screw all you cynics maaaan, it was cool. The end. I reserve the right to laugh at all of you WHEN we win. Share the love, yo Quickie: What's this "we" crap? Didn't know you played pro ball. -=Mike Most fans have been there longer and gone through more than any of the current players, so it is "we". The players come and go, but the fans remain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JangoFett4Hire 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2003 Considering how fans pay the players' salary, I think it's perfectly acceptable, and not crap, to say "we". A true fan puts an emotional investment into his or her sports team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 8, 2003 I think that most fans - regardless of where they are - would over-react if they're team came back from being one game away from elimination to winning the series. Especially if one game went to extra innings, the second wasn't decided until the 8th inning, and the final one ended with a bases loaded strikeout in a one run game. The rioters that cracked me up were those idiot college kids that got arrested for rioting after GAME THREE! Why the fuck would you riot just for not getting eliminated? And, lastly, count me as someone that doesn't give a shit how the rest of the country/world feels about Boston or Red Sox fans. I'll still sleep at night knowing that people look down on my city for some idiot imported college kids going apeshit in a drunken stupor. And as long as it's not my car that's getting flipped, I don't even really care about the the local ones that went out and rioted. No riot in Atlanta when they rallied from a 3-1 deficit against the Cards in the NLCS several seasons ago. Then again, in Atlanta, they can't sell out World Series games, so it might be a bad example. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 8, 2003 Dude, Zack, don't put BU and Amherst students in the same sentence- we're not even in the same species. Besides, it was mostly Northeastern kids. Yeah, the riot was probably overblown, but come on, criticizing people because they're happy we made a dramatic three game comeback, I mean, come on. It was awesome, and it was a game, in prior instances, the Sox would have lost. And as for the "we"- it's just team loyalty dude, a sense of kinship with the team. I root for BU hockey and call them "we" even though I don't play for them- most people do. That's just splitting hairs. To be honest, this whole beef started when the initial poster PRAISED Boston fans for their rioting. After this, I hope the Yanks sweep them. And I F'N HATE the Yankees. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 8, 2003 Most fans have been there longer and gone through more than any of the current players, so it is "we". The players come and go, but the fans remain. The moment you are at the plate and touch the ball in a game, it is not "we". It is "they". -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JangoFett4Hire 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2003 Shut up Mike, who the hell are you to argue semantics with a passionate fan? If WE want to use the word WE will. Don't make me get my grandmama to kick your ass with her coin purse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jay Z. Hollywood Report post Posted October 8, 2003 Dude, Zack, don't put BU and Amherst students in the same sentence- we're not even in the same species. Besides, it was mostly Northeastern kids. Yeah, the riot was probably overblown, but come on, criticizing people because they're happy we made a dramatic three game comeback, I mean, come on. It was awesome, and it was a game, in prior instances, the Sox would have lost. And as for the "we"- it's just team loyalty dude, a sense of kinship with the team. I root for BU hockey and call them "we" even though I don't play for them- most people do. That's just splitting hairs. To be honest, this whole beef started when the initial poster PRAISED Boston fans for their rioting. After this, I hope the Yanks sweep them. And I F'N HATE the Yankees. -=Mike Uh dude, the guy you quoted (me) WAS the initial poster. And the riot, which was pretty tame by most standards (one overturned car, a couple flashers), was by my experience a pretty joyful environment, highfiving and hugging total strangers, rooting for the team, chanting "Let's Go Red Sox"- it creates a sense of unity, hence the title, why I love where I live, the area I've lived my entire life (spent my early childhood in the inner city Boston area- Southie, Revere- so I got indoctrinated early.) We're passionate about our baseball. We live and die by the successes and failures of the team (just like other baseball towns-NY, Chicago, I know there's others I'm forgetting.) So yeah, it's WE, and I can never understand in this place why feeling happy is worthy of, nay, DEMANDS criticism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2003 No riot in Atlanta when they rallied from a 3-1 deficit against the Cards in the NLCS several seasons ago. Then again, in Atlanta, they can't sell out World Series games, so it might be a bad example. -=Mike Because Braves fans knew they weren't going to win the World Series. And back when Pittsburgh lost to Atlanta in the playoffs in '91 and '92 I remember the Braves announcers making fun of Pittsburgh fans because they couldn't sell out their stadium. As for the should-fans-use-"we"-when-talking-about-a-hometown-team discussion. Well, fans pay the tickets, but the t-shirts and stick around longer (and with greater loyalty) than any of the team's actual players do, so why not? Personally I would never support a local team that contains a bunch of people who don't give a crap what happens to me just because they play in the city I live in/near, but that's just me. Besides it's so much fun to watch these die-hards when their team loses. So flame on -- it's not my community that will have to pay for the clean-up costs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2003 Most fans have been there longer and gone through more than any of the current players, so it is "we". The players come and go, but the fans remain. The moment you are at the plate and touch the ball in a game, it is not "we". It is "they". -=Mike If it's touching the plate, shouldn't people like Byrnes not be allowed to say "we" then? Because if he had, this whole riot debate wouldn't of ever happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JangoFett4Hire 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2003 Zing!!!!!!!!!!! *nominates nl5 for poster HOF* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ghettoman Report post Posted October 8, 2003 I can't believe people are actually trying to excuse a riot. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR A RIOT. What the hell kind of thing to say is "oh it's just the coillege kids" Oh! The college kids, that makes it alright. If you want one group of people destroying public property, it's the youth. What, the, fuck. You guys shoudl riot when you lose, in about 3 seasons we won't have to worry about Boston. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2003 Zing!!!!!!!!!!! *nominates nl5 for poster HOF* Thanks for the nomination, Jango ... I really couldn't have done it without Mike. It's like volleyball, he gave me a perfect bump for me to spike down. There is no "I" in team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2003 There's no "we" either. There is a "me" however. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2003 So yeah, it's WE, and I can never understand in this place why feeling happy is worthy of, nay, DEMANDS criticism. It demands criticism when you're overturning cars and causing damage to the city after only winning 3 games in the postseason. Toronto is passionate about their hockey and when they beat Philly in 2 OTs to force a Game 7- everyone was running around being happy- no one was overturning cars like a moron. Remember- it's just the first round Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 8, 2003 Shut up Mike, who the hell are you to argue semantics with a passionate fan? If WE want to use the word WE will. Don't make me get my grandmama to kick your ass with her coin purse. "Passionate fan"? Or... Delusional dufus? -=Mike ...I am a huge Buffalo Bills fan --- doesn't mean that "we" beat the Bengals this weekend Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 8, 2003 Uh dude, the guy you quoted (me) WAS the initial poster. And? And the riot, which was pretty tame by most standards (one overturned car, a couple flashers), was by my experience a pretty joyful environment, highfiving and hugging total strangers, rooting for the team, chanting "Let's Go Red Sox"- it creates a sense of unity, hence the title, why I love where I live Well, unless it's YOUR car getting overturned. If Boston acts like this over the ALDS, I HOPE the Yankees sweep them in a convincing manner. Trying to get the country to feel for you, which Boston does on a yearly basis, is killed when you act like epic pricks when you do win something. Just checking, did Chicago riot? I don't remember hearing much about that, and they're infinitely more passionate than BoSox fans are. area I've lived my entire life (spent my early childhood in the inner city Boston area- Southie, Revere- so I got indoctrinated early.) We're passionate about our baseball. We live and die by the successes and failures of the team (just like other baseball towns-NY, Chicago, I know there's others I'm forgetting.) That might well be the saddest thing I've ever read in my life. So yeah, it's WE, and I can never understand in this place why feeling happy is worthy of, nay, DEMANDS criticism. Why can't places be happy without destruction and boorish behavior? I suppose winning is awful foreign to you. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 8, 2003 Most fans have been there longer and gone through more than any of the current players, so it is "we". The players come and go, but the fans remain. The moment you are at the plate and touch the ball in a game, it is not "we". It is "they". -=Mike If it's touching the plate, shouldn't people like Byrnes not be allowed to say "we" then? Because if he had, this whole riot debate wouldn't of ever happened. UNLESS YOU'RE PLAYING, IT IS NOT "WE". -=Mike ...Not exactly rocket science here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites