What's the Point?

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

Oh my goodness, did I intrude upon a private conversation?

 

Then use the PM system next time, you stupid fucking chimp.

Alright.

 

Paragon mentioned in this thread that Bruiser shouldn't complain since he doesn't bring the content. In return, I replied in this thread, that he did.

 

Its really not that hard to understand. Sometimes you are just so hard up to rip on people. But I'll take it...I'll go toe to toe with you if you want. I'm bored.

[Firestarter 0]

I'm bored.

So am I. But couldn't we make it about something more interesting?

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

You obviously haven't been in the sports folder lately then, because that's pretty much the only place I've posted over the last few weeks.

 

And Banky has a point there, although I wasn't going to mention it because it would just leave the door open for the obligatory, "then go post there and leave here" retort.

You're right; I haven't.

 

As for Banky, I don't knock TSM at all. Certain threads I find boring, so sometimes I either call it out or just leave. I happened to find your "Banky's Dead Part 53" boring, so I just made a post about it. If you're using countless other posts as an example, than I must say that I don't really know enough about them, or don't care enough to keep track. All I can say is that I'm sure there's others who can account for the fact that I try to bring up discussion. If you don't agree, than you don't.

 

I could go on about the lack of MMA content in the Misc. Folder, but what's the point? It wouldn't do much, as if I was really hard-pressed for content I could go elsewhere, which is what it all boils down to. If Bruiser wants some discussion, he can find it somewhere. He can't force a bunch of people on a message board to discuss something that they probably don't care about. If people in LSD don't care about porn discussion, than they don't (just an example, no need to tell me you haven't bothered in six months). If people at TSM don't dig MMA, than so be it. I could read news at Sherdog, and post there too. They're ridiculously dense, but that's cool. It's all good.

 

If you come to a messageboard expecting profound effects on your life, than you will be sorely disappointed.

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

As for Banky, I don't knock TSM at all. Certain threads I find boring, so sometimes I either call it out or just leave. I happened to find your "Banky's Dead Part 53" boring, so I just made a post about it. .

And I didn't bruise my nuts over it like Marney did this thread. I don't really care if anyone thinks I'm boring or complains about the posting nature of TSM members - Bruiser does have a point if people seriously do get to worked up over message board happenings.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Oh my goodness, did I intrude upon a private conversation?

 

Then use the PM system next time, you stupid fucking chimp.

Alright.

 

Paragon mentioned in this thread that Bruiser shouldn't complain since he doesn't bring the content. In return, I replied in this thread, that he did.

 

Its really not that hard to understand. Sometimes you are just so hard up to rip on people. But I'll take it...I'll go toe to toe with you if you want. I'm bored.

I never said he didn't bring the content, just for what he whines about. Which is true.

 

Arguing over it would be an exercise in futility however, so I'm dropping it.

[Guest The Old Me]

What is "the content"? It differs from various points of view. While BC's claim has always been that he brought the content, its always looked like "Blah, blah blah, SNKT, blah blah."

 

Now Chevy, or Incandenza, bring the content in my opinion.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Lets just all kill ourselves. Everyone grab a fistful of razors, bullets, and pills..the nihilism is too much to overcome.

[Guest The Old Me]

Lets just all kill ourselves. Everyone grab a fistful of razors, bullets, and pills..the nihilism is too much to overcome.

A mass TSM suicide.

 

You go first.

[The Man in Blak 0]

Then use the PM system next time, you stupid fucking chimp.

But wait, you forgot your disclaimer:

 

"Don't PM me with your argument or I'll have you banned"

 

Ultimately, I'm really flattered. Really. To think of how much time has passed, it's downright amazing that such a bastion of maturity as yourself would pick my name out of thin air at the proverbial drop of Bruiser's hat. I can only hug myself and think fondly of that little place that I must share in your heart.

 

What's really funny about this whole situation isn't the fact that Bruiser's the answer to his own question. The real humor is that, despite plenty of complaints (including one from a guy who was in charge of the web content here) about you blasting people outside of the ballyhooed flaming folder, you're somehow still here while hundreds of other kids who don't have your charm were banned. It must have just gotten lost in the noise of everybody climaxing all at once, waiting in line and salivating at the chance to grope your electric penis.

 

I do appreciate the namedrop, though, and the idea of bitching back and forth with you is quite nostalgic. (I love nostalgia.) But, believe it or not, I've got no insults for someone who holds me with such esteem and I've got better things to do...like watch baseball.

[Art Sandusky 0]

Can't we all just have a rumble?

 

(oh, and marks out for a rare MiB post)

[Firestarter 0]

But wait, you forgot your disclaimer:

 

"Don't PM me with your argument or I'll have you banned"

Oddly enough, you still seem to be able to post. So... why were you whining again?

 

I can only hug myself and think fondly of that little place that I must share in your heart.

Right next to Carol Moseley-Braun, about as serious, and about as funny.

 

Bruiser's the answer to his own question

"What's wrong with message boards today?"

 

Yeah, I guess I have to agree with you there.

 

despite plenty of complaints... about you blasting people outside of the ballyhooed flaming folder, you're somehow still here

And that still makes you seethe with impotent rage, does it? Oh good.

 

I do appreciate the namedrop

Anytime.

[The Man in Blak 0]

Oddly enough, you still seem to be able to post. So... why were you whining again?

Uh, what? I never PM'd you again after receiving that little trinket in my inbox. While you're out getting new batteries for your sarcasm detector, you might want to throw some Ginkgo Biloba Extract in the basket as well.

 

And that still makes you seethe with impotent rage, does it?

 

Not really. It just humors me to point it out from time to time, since it's a hilarious situation. To this day, I don't think there's been a legitimate, logical explanation for what happened, but it's not a big deal now. I took my notes and now I've got my own place to enjoy and worry about.

 

Plus, I just HAD to come back and post, since some poor schmuck made one of those Top 10 poster list threads again.

 

*represents*

 

Anyways, in other news...

 

You enjoy being Marney the Condescending Motormouth?

 

From what I've gathered, you are probably in your late 20s-early 30s, work for the US government, are married......and you get your rocks off telling people off on an (since you used italics) an internet messageboard?

 

*Waits for the patented Marney Overblown, Condescending, Inane and Insecure Retort*

Edited October 15, 2003 by The Man in Blak

[Giuseppe Zangara 0]

Now Chevy, or Incandenza, bring the content in my opinion.

I only post about myself.

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

Now Chevy, or Incandenza, bring the content in my opinion.

I only post about myself.

My posts reek of ego mania as well....at least thats what the great folks here always say.

[Giuseppe Zangara 0]

I dislike this board. I dislike those other boards, too, but I continue with this place because my arrogance demands it.

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

I dislike this board. I dislike those other boards, too, but I continue with this place because my arrogance demands it.

Whats your point?

[Guest HungryJack]

Snausages...

 

 

//gank

[razazteca 0]

He likes to argue with the 13 other personalities of his?

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

Snausages...

 

 

//gank

Whats your point?

[MrRant 0]

And if anyone knows about egos that would be Banky.

 

Speaking Banky and the fact that Banky can't stand to not have people pay attention to him... I figure Banky needs to find himself a dependent woman that hangs on to him all the time. You know the type that takes a right fist to the gut but keeps coming back because she loves you? If he's lucky hopefully he can find one with a drug problem that he can exploit so that way he has another lock on her since he can keep her wasted enough not to be able to work and that way have control of her drug supply.

 

I think that will get him all the attention he thinks he deserves.

 

Edit: Wording.

Edited October 15, 2003 by MrRant

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

And if anyone knows about egos that would be Banky.

 

Speaking Banky and the fact that Banky can't stand to not have people pay attention to him... I figure Banky needs to find himself a dependent woman that hangs on to him all the time.  You know the type that takes a right fist to the gut but keeps coming back because she loves you?  If he's lucky hopefully he can find one with a drug problem that he can exploit so that way he has another lock on her since he can keep her wasted enough not to be able to work and that way control of her drug supply.

 

I think that will get him all the attention he thinks he deserves.

Finally, someone understands me.

 

PS> My name is Chevy.

[Guest HungryJack]

Is that TULLY in your sig?

 

because if so, that's awesome.

[Firestarter 0]

I never PM'd you again after receiving that little trinket in my inbox

'k. I didn't want to do this, because I dislike airing dirty laundry that should remain private. But since your ego is hung up on this one particular point, however much I try to be nice, and make up for your lack of anything even vaguely resembling class, you're going to keep bring it up over and over and over again until I deal with it.

 

Fine. Let's get this over with.

 

Over a year ago, Banky started a thread complaining about a comment bps21 made about some wrestler. That evolved into a discussion about mental diseases for some reason I don't care about enough to determine right now, which wound down eventually of its own accord. Following that, Banky made some noises about leaving TSM forever and going to WDI, and all of a sudden you popped up. You took a comment someone else had made about me and went off for paragraph after paragraph, shrieking for my head, demanding that someone ban me, and calling the mods and admins hypocrites for not having done so. We exchanged a few flames. Fair enough so far.

 

Finally, Dames stepped in and closed the thread, telling you to make your complaints directly to him in Site Feedback.

 

This is when things got messy.

 

You had written a beautiful fifteen-paragraph essay for my benefit. Now the world would be deprived of your sparkling prose. You couldn't post it in the thread, because Dames had closed it. You couldn't really start a new thread and post it in that, because Dames had told you to take up your concerns with him, and your post was addressed to me. There was no way out of the quandary. Your eyes moistened with tears of frustration at the unfairness of it all. Your lower lip began to quiver and your chin wobbled. Your knuckles whitened and a sob rose in your aching throat. But wait! Out of the darkness, competing with the glow of the computer screen, a light bulb began to flicker dimly over your head.

 

You could send me the essay over which you'd laboured so long and so ardently in a private message! Brilliance itself! You would gain the attention from me that you were so desperately seeking. Your imaginative insults, your rapier-like wit, your rock-solid arguments would not go unread after all. Perhaps I would even respond! Your life would finally, finally have meaning once more.

 

Only... I didn't.

 

I deleted your message without reading past the first insult. Then I blocked you. You remain blocked today. Why? Ironically, because you did exactly what you were accusing me of doing. Only in a more offensive way.

 

You flamed me outside the flaming folder. Not only that, but you flamed me in a PM. And people have been banned for that - in fact, the guy Banky referenced in his initial post in that thread was banned for exactly that. Why?

 

Let us draw an analogy. Say person A disagrees with person B on a particular point. Is it in order for A to argue with B, perhaps heatedly, at a cocktail party? Absolutely. At a dinner? Sure. In fact, in any social situation? Of course. Now say A is told by the host of a given dinner to knock it off, to stop arguing with B. A stops. The next day, A, seething with arguments and insults unheard, writes an insulting letter to B and sends it through the mail. Do you see where I'm going with this? What you did constitutes harassment. You were told to cease and desist (whether or not you did so as you claim I have no way to determine, since, as I said earlier, I blocked you almost immediately) because you were invading my privacy and attempting to impose yourself upon my time.

 

Now if I were you (and I thank God that I'm not), that isn't something I'd willingly bring up a year later. Yet you seem to think that it makes you some kind of martyr. Here's a heads-up: you're not. You're just arrogant, stupid, childish, and (for some reason) obsessed with me. Allow me to suggest that you should take up a hobby. Perhaps something involving nitroglycerine?

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

In denigrating, contemptuous terms, assuming an air of superiority as you tried to educate the masses and lead them to enlightenment.

 

...wow, pot meet kettle, eh?

[Firestarter 0]

In denigrating, contemptuous terms, assuming an air of superiority as you tried to educate the masses and lead them to enlightenment.

 

...wow, pot meet kettle, eh?

Nope. I just shoot down stupid shit other people say. I don't start threads attempting to reform all Democrats or complaining about why people vote for Democrats and how I don't understand it or appreciate it and how much I wish everyone would just stop it! I'm not a demagogue, I'm not a messiah, and I'm not a martyr. If I ever start to behave like one, then you may feel free to criticise me not only for that, but for being a hypocrite as well. Until then, shut up.

[The Man in Blak 0]

You have an interesting take on history.

 

First off, if you truly contend that you didn't read my PM because of the first insult on the first line because I had sent you some vicious diatribe, then you have some major sensitivity issues...because, save for a "potential burn" at the end, the PM didn't flame you at all.

 

Hey, I walk back into my dorm room, eat dinner, read up on "The Thread" and, mysteriously, it's all closed with no way for me to even attempt a rebuttal or to defend myself.

 

 

So, you've been wasting your time for months on end (where were you when FK Teale was posting, by the way?) trying to change something that won't ever make a rat's ass worth of difference to anyone even if you succeeded, and you've failed.

 

But you're still trying anyway, even though no one appreciates your noble endeavour.

 

I really can't imagine anything more pathetic than this.

 

 

Yeah, I was here when FK Teale unloaded into cfici and, while it is probably one of the greatest flames of all time...yeah, I'd say it was ridiculously inappropriate for the forum. But that was also at a time when the mods weren't so ban happy and (catch the similarity) they apparently liked the post so much that they decided to disregard it.

 

Past that, I don't think you're getting what I'm trying to change and, obviously, the mods don't either. A lot of these past atrocities from "less mature" are so trivial that I don't really think it's necessary to ban them. Plain and simple. But I'm enough of a stickler that if the powers that be are going to hold that kind of a watch over the forum, then you're damn right I'm going to bitch and kvetch when they sit back and let you do the same things that they've trashed other people for.

 

In any other situation, I honestly wouldn't care - I really didn't care when FK Teale did it. But to me, I get the impression that a lot of the people in charge (particularly Tom, bless his soul) are actually being protective of you against claims that they would have listened to in any other circumstance. And that's a bullshit double standard.

 

If that's where you're getting some inferred quest to get you banned, then so be it - I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder whether I'm arguing against people getting banned in the first place (truth) or whether I'm saying everybody should be banned (an easy misconception). But there's never been an outright request to have you kicked to the curb and I'd really like to see you pull out a quote somewhere...anywhere that I explicitly say that I wanted you banned. Humor me.

 

 

I think the mods have answered your whiny complaints adequately. If you're still unsatisfied, clearly, you aren't happy here and things aren't going to change.

 

Why are you still on this board again?

 

 

Consider it the straw that breaks the camel's back. Coming and discussing things on the Smarksboard has always been a labour of love, but right now, it doesn't matter how much fun I used to have with her because the bitch is delusional and won't listen to reason. So I'll agree with you - I've got no reason to post here and, outside of discussing events with my Fantasy Football team, I'm not going to. I'm more than happy with that being my last post and, hell, when people are hard up for topics three months down the road when all forms of discussion have been neutralized and sanitized to the moderators' specifications, maybe someone will pick it up and be entertained for thirty to forty-five seconds.

 

By the way, those "trite zen quotes" are actually from Bruce Lee's philosophy of Jeet Kune Do and I thought they applied quite well to the situation at hand. But I suppose (and admit) that arguing about pretentious on the internet is all one big pissing contest in the first place. After all, we all know that arguing on the internet accomplishes so much, especially when one side absolutely refuses to even acknowledge valid arguments being made.

 

So, congratulations - you've successfully grabbed almost all of the mods by their collective balls and convincing them to enjoy it. You should consider selling them some ocean front property while you've still got the chance.

 

I sent my complaints to Dames through PM, I sent a PM towards Tom saying that I appreciated him trying to lend logic to the argument (even though he was wrong), and then I sent the PM to you because I wasn't going to start up another thread, just to watch it get closed by the moderators.

 

In retrospect, I probably should have just raised hell ad nauseum until I got banned for "trolling." Ah, well.

 

Secondly, I jumped in when Goodhelmet was making a civil complaint in the feedback folder about how people were getting flamed in the Current Event folder. I backed him up and quoted one of your posts without even mentioning who you were or calling for your head. You and the mods basically rolled out the doublespeak and nothing happened. We took it to flaming and commenced, which seems to be the only part of the story that you've got right so far.

 

Thirdly, I didn't just "pop up" - I had been posting since thesmartmarks was a crazy yellow-and-black EZBoard that was owned by Scott Keith.

 

And, fourthly, while Incandenza's "I dislike this board" quote is really funny (and true, for a lot of people), I had already been popping in and out, making little cameo posts here and there and making a joke of it because it's been a whole year and I had already moved on.

 

Now if I were you (and I thank God that I'm not), that isn't something I'd willingly bring up a year later...You're just arrogant, stupid, childish, and (for some reason) obsessed with me.

 

You certainly didn't flinch before dropping my name one year later, did you?

 

And, if I was so bloody obsessed with you, why did I just walk away? Why didn't I go to even further extremes to irritate you, after you sent your "warning" to me?

 

Your logic is positively stunning.

 

You want to lecture me on class, when you sit and condescendingly flame people in political discussions? You want to tell me how I assume an air of superiority in all of my posts?

 

Give me a break.

 

What a disappointment.

[Firestarter 0]

You have an interesting take on history.

You have an interesting definition of "history."

 

the PM didn't flame you at all

If you insist. As I said, I deleted it; there's no way for me to know if what you quoted was the original PM or not. It doesn't matter anyway. You were, or should have been, perfectly aware that it would be unwelcome. Reading it now, it seems fairly well-reasoned, and I agree with pretty much all of it. Like Tom, (and, it seems, like you), I think flaming on internet message boards is a ridiculously trivial offense.

 

I sent my complaints to Dames through PM, I sent a PM towards Tom saying that I appreciated him trying to lend logic to the argument (even though he was wrong)

Would you like a cookie?

 

Thirdly, I didn't just "pop up" - I had been posting since thesmartmarks was a crazy yellow-and-black EZBoard that was owned by Scott Keith

It wasn't a comment on your tenure on the board; I couldn't care less about such things. It was a comment on your sudden appearance in that particular thread, seemingly for no other reason than the fact that bob barron had complimented me for some reason I don't care about enough to look up right now and you had taken exception to it.

 

You certainly didn't flinch before dropping my name one year later, did you?

Simply because you were the closest thing to Chong I could think of.

 

You want to lecture me on class, when you sit and condescendingly flame people in political discussions?

Yes, I believe I just did. Flaming people in political discussions has nothing to do with class. Bringing private exchanges into public does.

 

 

 

Shit, I haven't really insulted you yet. Er... you're stupid, yeah that's the ticket.

[The Man in Blak 0]

there's no way for me to know if what you quoted was the original PM or not.

 

...right. I'm going to conjure up an entire 13-page manifesto just to support my contention. People don't do that (as I've learned quite clearly in the past). Please give me some credit. I don't need to fall back on that kind of trickery in an argument.

 

I sent my complaints to Dames through PM, I sent a PM towards Tom saying that I appreciated him trying to lend logic to the argument (even though he was wrong)

 

Would you like a cookie?

 

Nope. Considering that you inferred that I didn't do it with your earlier post, I just wanted the recognition.

 

Bringing private exchanges into public does.

 

Technically, you could have just left my opening remark in the vapors and nobody would have cared or even realized what was going on since, after all, it was private. I hinted to get your attention, you chose to elaborate, and then I chose to elaborate.

 

Flaming people in political discussions has nothing to do with class.

 

Sorry, don't agree. When you've got a bunch of teenage wrestling fans coming onto this board, you could forego the condescending tone whenever they say something ignorant or factually inaccurate and actually move towards educating them a little bit, instead of indulging yourself with a bunch of petty insults.

 

As far as I'm concerned, you're just missing an opportunity and painting a poor picture for your political alignment when you do that, but that's just me.

 

seemingly for no other reason than the fact that bob barron had complimented me for some reason I don't care about enough to look up right now and you had taken exception to it.

 

Actually, I'm not sure if you could find the post anyway. When I was looking for our original flame war through my own posts, it only listed three of my 1,000+ posts (OMG MIB POST COUNTING) on the server...so I'm guessing they deleted it.

 

Which means its old news.

[Guest TheGame2705]

I have to agree with Bruiser. Petty flaming really helps nothing. I've done it a lot though. Usually I'm just frustrated because I'll join in on a conversation then no one will take my opinion into consideration and instead flame me. It just gets annoying to hear stupid shit in discussions like "well...yeah go eat ass hair" when it has nothing to do with the subject matter.

 

I started with old man in another thread because someone had to to get his head out of his ass. He can post any kind of shit he wants and no one will call him on it. His columns have been garbage and like I said, he'll take only the surface facts on a situation then go from there with his own story.

[Firestarter 0]

...right. I'm going to conjure up an entire 13-page manifesto just to support my contention.

It's quite easy to simply delete insults. I'm not saying that that's what you did, because I have no proof and frankly I no longer care; I'm willing to cede the point. There's nothing in your PM with which I substantively agree, and I like to argue about substance rather than form.

 

Considering that you inferred that I didn't do it with your earlier post, I just wanted the recognition.

Then consider it granted. The cookie's been stale for over a year anyway.

 

When you've got a bunch of teenage wrestling fans coming onto this board, you could forego the condescending tone whenever they say something ignorant or factually inaccurate and actually move towards educating them a little bit, instead of indulging yourself with a bunch of petty insults.

I could, but it wouldn't be as much fun or anywhere near as effective. Spare the rod and spoil the child. Conflict draws out truth. Compromise and coddling muddy it, and create flabby, lazy minds.

 

Actually, I'm not sure if you could find the post anyway.  When I was looking for our original flame war through my own posts, it only listed three of my 1,000+ posts (OMG MIB POST COUNTING) on the server...so I'm guessing they deleted it.

Well, the thread is there. The page is there. I glanced at it earlier. The reduction in post count that you're seeing is due to a board error a while ago; posts from a few months were removed from the post count, but the actual posts still exist.