The ONE and ONLY World Series Thread

[bob_barron 0]

The Braves did not lose every year in the 90s.

 

They won once.

[Guest Anglesault]

He means that teams like the Royals and Orioles haven't made the playoffs in a while, and have a reason to gripe while Yankees fans are getting all in a huff after losing one Series .

Three.

 

Lets not distort the facts.

 

Besides, I fail to see any real differece between not making the pay offs and making the play offs but losing there.

 

Losing is losing, no matter what time of year you do it in.

[JHawk 0]

I'm sure there are fans out there who remember what it was like to not make the postseason

For Christ sakes, it was ten years ago. Of course I remember it. And the thought that we might be heading back in that direction isn't appealing.

And you have fans of 22 teams that are already fucking there, and they wish you would realize that.

What?

He means that teams like the Royals and Orioles haven't made the playoffs in a while, and have a reason to gripe while Yankees fans are getting all in a huff after losing one Series after dominating the 90s and making the Series 3 out of 4 times in the 00s (winning one).

 

Thanks for interpreting, kingpk. It's nice to know that somebody can read English.

 

The Braves did not lose every year in the 90s.

 

They won once.

 

Don't fucking remind me, Bob.

[JangoFett4Hire 0]

It would by symbolic if this thread were closed forever at 26 pages...

[Fökai 0]

Of course not.

 

I'm pissed because this was probably the final gasp for this dynasty and they just gave up on me.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

 

FINAL GASP?!?

 

Are you sure you're a YANKEES fan?

 

This winter, they'll sign the top three free agents, just like they've done EVERY YEAR for the last...oh, uh, FOREVER.

[JangoFett4Hire 0]

Yanks'll sign Tejeda, Vladi and probably God. Expect a 200 million dollar payroll in the Bronx next year.

[Guest Anglesault]

Of course not.

 

I'm pissed because this was probably the final gasp for this dynasty and they just gave up on me.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

 

FINAL GASP?!?

 

Are you sure you're a YANKEES fan?

 

This winter, they'll sign the top three free agents, just like they've done EVERY YEAR for the last...oh, uh, FOREVER.

Torre might be gone. Wells and Pettite to. Rocket is gone.

 

The bullpen is a mess,and we don't exactly have a right fielder or third basemen.

 

The team is getting old.

 

The Storm clouds are brewing.

[Fökai 0]

EDIT:

 

Torre might be gone. Wells and Pettite to. Rocket is gone.

 

Kevin Millwood...Livan Hernandez... Bartolo Colon...Danny Graves.

 

The bullpen is a mess,and we don't exactly have a right fielder or third basemen.

 

Eddie Guardado...Keith Foulke...Tejada can play third...and then there's Vlady.

[Guest BobbyWhioux]

All Empires Decline.

 

All Dynasties Fall.

 

No matter how good you are, no matter how much money you spend, every year you get a little older, and the reflexes slow just that much, and eventually somebody younger and hungrier and BETTER than you is gonna knock you off. And while there are many things you can do to put it off for a few more years, in the end, there is nothing you can do to completely prevent it.

 

Maybe this is the end for this Yankees dynasty (and oh how I hope it is). Maybe it isn't. But even if it's not here yet, it's coming.

 

Nothing sucks quite like getting to the championship and losing (Got to see the Giants AND Raiders pull off that feat recently. Whee). It also REALLY sucks when you are accustomed to seeing "your team" always come through. I was lucky to be around for when the 49ers were like that. It was great. But it was destined to come to an end, and no amount of cheering or cursing or crying on my part was gonna change that.

 

And the Yankees are no different. 72-90 seasons are coming to you, too. Ha Ha. And yes, the rest of us are going to do the dance of joy when it finally happens and rub it in the face of the marks who thought their Yankees were special and immune. Deal. It's the price of being "the best."

 

It always sucks in the moment to lose, but if you have a good head on your shoulders, you can look back in a couple weeks and admit "hey, you know, it was a good season, and a damn good ride, we did better than most." Even if you came really close only to lose, and it always claws at your guts a little.

 

Seeing the 49ers finally reduced to also-rans after years of them being The Lords Of The NFL sucked the big one. And we thought they were special too (and 16 straight 10 win seasons, 5-0 in Super Bowls over 14 years, was and is damn special) and it won't happen to them. But it did. But as a sign at the last Phillies game at Veteran's Stadium read: "Don't Cry Because It's Over; Smile Because It Happened."

 

If certain Yankee fans, in a couple weeks, continue to piss and moan about this one so much that they rob themselves of the ability to enjoy all the big wins in recent years, they're cheating themselves. Or seriously psychologically disturbed.

 

Especially since the ride isn't necessarily over yet. Though here's hopin'.

[Sandman9000 0]

No matter how good you are, no matter how much money you spend, every year you get a little older, and the reflexes slow just that much, and eventually somebody younger and hungrier and BETTER than you is gonna knock you off.  And while there are many things you can do to put it off for a few more years, in the end, there is nothing you can do to completely prevent it.

 

If I'm going to go down, I'm going to go down kicking and screaming and fighting to the bitter end, not with a "ho hum" shrug and with my worst effort/pitcher out there.

 

And yeah, there always is someone out there who is hungier then you and is willing to work when you aren't. It's your job to make sure that you become even hungrier and work even harder to make sure that you are better then them.

 

And the Yankees are no different. 72-90 seasons are coming to you, too.  Ha Ha.  And yes, the rest of us are going to do the dance of joy when it finally happens and rub it in the face of the marks who thought their Yankees were special and immune.  Deal.  It's the price of being "the best."

 

72-90 seasons may be coming. I'll consider those failures as well. When the Yanks win another title, I'll consider them winners.

 

It always sucks in the moment to lose, but if you have a good head on your shoulders, you can look back in a couple weeks and admit "hey, you know, it was a good season, and a damn good ride, we did better than most."  Even if you came really close only to lose, and it always claws at your guts a little.

 

It sucks in the moment to lose, it sucks after the moment, it sucks two weeks from now, four months from now, it sucks until you win. Then and only then does it stop sucking, and even after you wish you hadn't lost in the first place.

 

Seeing the 49ers finally reduced to also-rans after years of them being The Lords Of The NFL sucked the big one.  And we thought they were special too (and 16 straight 10 win seasons, 5-0 in Super Bowls over 14 years, was and is damn special) and it won't happen to them.  But it did.  But as a sign at the last Phillies game at Veteran's Stadium read:  "Don't Cry Because It's Over; Smile Because It Happened."

 

Cry because you lost, then get up the next way and work your ass off to prevent it from ever happening again.

 

If certain Yankee fans, in a couple weeks, continue to piss and moan about this one so much that they rob themselves of the ability to enjoy all the big wins in recent years, they're cheating themselves.  Or seriously psychologically disturbed.

 

I've never been accused of being anywhere close to chemically balanced.

 

Or a good loser.

 

26 rings are good, but it's knowing that you could have had more that puts a little damper onto them.

[Vern Gagne 0]

EDIT:

 

Torre might be gone. Wells and Pettite to. Rocket is gone.

 

Kevin Millwood...Livan Hernandez... Bartolo Colon...Danny Graves.

 

The bullpen is a mess,and we don't exactly have a right fielder or third basemen.

 

Eddie Guardado...Keith Foulke...Tejada can play third...and then there's Vlady.

That's the best set of starters available? I honestly don't like any of them. Millwood IMO is the best of the grouop. He's unproven in the AL though.

[Guest Anglesault]

hey, you know, it was a good season, and a damn good ride, we did better than most."

 

I take no pride in being "better than most" That just doesn't cut it.

 

Second best is not now, nor has it ever been good enough.

 

I don't see how "better than most" is supposed to be a consolation.

 

50 years from now, no one is gonna care who the Marlins beat to win the title. It will be an obscure trivia question.

 

Like I can tell you, the Yankees won in 53. I have NO idea who they beat. (I think Brooklyn.)

 

Championship teams live forever.

 

The team they beat fades way within years.

 

It royally pisses me of that I could have told my Grandchildren that I saw the greatest pitcher of my generation ride off into the sunset as a champion.

 

Now I have to say that his team gave up on him.

 

Joe Torre is a man who could have ended his career as one of the best managers in baseball on top of the mountain and on his own terms.

 

Now he might basically be forced out, leader of a team that was "better than most...but just not good enough"

 

That fucking sucks.

[the pinjockey 0]

I seriously doubt this is going to diminish the image of Joe Torre as a great manager.

[Guest Anglesault]

I seriously doubt this is going to diminish the image of Joe Torre as a great manager.

A win would have enhanced it.

[Sandman9000 0]

If Torre reounds with another team and wins a few more times, it won't.

 

If Torre can't do that, his talent will be credited to Steinbrenner's money, and his legacy as a manager will be tarnished.

[Vern Gagne 0]

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Weaver didn't lose the series,

Yes he did. He sent a game that the Yankees were arguably in the driver's seat for (They were certainly threatening harder than Florida) and flushed it down the shitter.

 

IMHO, This series is tied if nor for him.

No, the Yankees hitting squandered it away such as tonight failing to produce runs...THAT is what cost them the god damn series.

If Weaver doesn't pull a Weaver special, the Yankees win that game. Mark my words. Sure, it's a prediction, but that was the only time in all four losses that I thought the Yanks had a shot.

 

Sure, the Boone strikeout that let Weaver in the game t begin with helps nothing, but Boone is on the list as well.

Why in the hell is Weaver in the fucking game in the first place? He was horrible, all year and suddenly in the World Series. Torre decides to put him in the game in extra innings, where one bad pitch can lose the game. Torre's done some great things has manager, but that was a dumb mistake, that turned the tide of the series.

[the pinjockey 0]

I think you are starting to stretch a little now. People acknowledge George's money, but people also realize how much Torre meant to that team.

 

Although it would be nice if he decided to go somewhere else and enhance his image. Maybe a couple hours south to help a team move into a new ballpark and win a title.

 

um yeah...he needs to prove himself somewhere else, fire him George

[Vern Gagne 0]

If Torre reounds with another team and wins a few more times, it won't.

 

If Torre can't do that, his talent will be credited to Steinbrenner's money, and his legacy as a manager will be tarnished.

Torre's legacy is secure. The media and public have such an overwhelming disdain for Steinbrenner, that these Yankee teams will always be known has Joe Torre's Yankees.

[Guest Redhawk]

Before the Yankees Torre didn't even have a legacy, so I doubt losing two series with New York is going to "tarnish" anything seeing as he won four world championships with them. Before Steinbrenner hired him, Torre's best team was the 89-73 Braves in 1982. Whatever legacy he has he built with the Yankees anyway, so I'm sure he's happy with that.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

50 years from now, no one is gonna care who the Marlins beat to win the title. It will be an obscure trivia question.

 

Like I can tell you, the Yankees won in 53. I have NO idea who they beat. (I think Brooklyn.)

 

Of course, you can give me any year in history, and I'll tell you who won and lost, but that's just me.

 

The Yankees didn't choke. They ran into a young pitcher pitching the game of his life. Hitting a baseball is such a difficult skill that the ones who do it 30% of the time are the best in their profession. 30%. Sometimes good hitters don't get hits. Its baseball. No one bats an eye if the Devil Rays take two of three in Yankee Stadium during the regular season. Stuff happens.

 

As for the Marlins, does anyone else find it odd that they've won two World Series, but have NEVER won the division?

[Guest Choken One]

I find it even more disgraceful that a team with only TWO winning seasons in it's existance has two world titles...

[Fökai 0]

I find it even more disgraceful that a team with only TWO winning seasons in it's existance has two world titles...

Hey, at least I got my pick for World Series champions the next time the Marlins hit 82 wins.

 

[Guest Choken One]

I find it even more disgraceful that a team with only TWO winning seasons in it's existance has two world titles...

Hey, at least I got my pick for World Series champions the next time the Marlins hit 82 wins.

 

by my calculations after the next fire sale they will hit 82+ in 2010.

[Guest Anglesault]

50 years from now, no one is gonna care who the Marlins beat to win the title. It will be an obscure trivia question.

 

Like I can tell you, the Yankees won in 53. I have NO idea who they beat. (I think Brooklyn.)

 

 

The Yankees didn't choke. They ran into a young pitcher pitching the game of his life.

Now explain the Brad Penny situation.

 

What was his ERA heading into this Series?

 

No one bats an eye if the Devil Rays take two of three in Yankee Stadium during the regular season.

 

George does.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

It royally pisses me of that I could have told my Grandchildren that I saw the greatest pitcher of my generation ride off into the sunset as a champion.

 

Now I know the Braves didn't do too well for Maddux, but they were eliminated a while ago.

[Guest Bobby Cox is God]

I was just reminded that my favorite player of all time will be playing somewhere next season, most likely. *Sigh* Oh well.

[Mik 0]

All this Yankee fan whining is causing everyone to forget the real reason we are here...the Florida Marlins are champions of the woooooooooooooooooorld!!!

 

Hahaha. I can hear the whining in Ithaca, 5 hours away from the city. Bwahahahahaha.

[bob_barron 0]

I was just reminded that my favorite player of all time will be playing somewhere next season, most likely. *Sigh* Oh well.

Yea- it sucks thinking about it. It's a shame he won't get 300 in a Braves uniform

[Fökai 0]

Randy Johnson's a free agent too.

 

Somehow, I don't see teams spending 13-15 million per on Maddux and the same goes with Unit (although a higher price). With Millwood, Colon and Livan on the market, it's hard to choose these aging veterans over the young'ins.

 

They'll both lower their price, which will be easy enough for their respective teams to sign them.

[Guest Anglesault]

It royally pisses me of that I could have told my Grandchildren that I saw the greatest pitcher of my generation ride off into the sunset as a champion.

 

Now I know the Braves didn't do too well for Maddux, but they were eliminated a while ago.

Clemens is better than Maddux, and he didn't get the "Atlanta Braves Pitcher" strikezone for x number of years to help him.

 

He may have gotten something, but not to the extent that Maddux and Glavine got.