EdwardKnoxII Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 Well if you're are like me I bet that Jericho/RVD left you with alot of questions. Like first what was the point of Jericho's 10 minute title run? The belt was back on RVD at the end of the night and it did nothing for either guy or the IC belt. And about Stone Cold. When he came out he said he couldn't change the ref's final call but, hasn't Stone Cold done that many times before like with the Booker/Xitan matches? And if they wanted the match to be a steel cage match why didn't they just have as one to start with. And this is a dumb one I know but, when was the last time a WWE cage match could be won with a pinfall most of the time it's get out of the cage to win. Yeah I know I should know better then to ask these questions of WWE logic but, I just felt like venting that's all.
Guest PowerPB13 Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 Since when does anything in WWE have a point? Since never. -Patrick
ChrisMWaters Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 And this is a dumb one I know but, when was the last time a WWE cage match could be won with a pinfall most of the time it's get out of the cage to win. Recently, all cage matches have been either pinfall or escape. First time I heard that rule was on a Sunday wrestling show in 1994 or 5...Tatanka vs. Lex Luger in a cage match. Lex won by pinfall.
EdwardKnoxII Posted October 28, 2003 Author Report Posted October 28, 2003 Since never. I wouldn't go that far. It's just felt that long.
bob_barron Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 And about Stone Cold. When he came out he said he couldn't change the ref's final call but, hasn't Stone Cold done that many times before like with the Booker/Xitan matches? That's because two refs were arguing over the finish so he didn't reverse anyones call. And if they wanted the match to be a steel cage match why didn't they just have as one to start with. Because Austin didn't think anyone would interfere. And this is a dumb one I know but, when was the last time a WWE cage match could be won with a pinfall most of the time it's get out of the cage to win. Kane v. RVD
EdwardKnoxII Posted October 28, 2003 Author Report Posted October 28, 2003 Because Austin didn't think anyone would interfere. If he really didn't think anyone would interfere he's dumber then I thought.
Guest Salacious Crumb Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 It's typical WWF booking where no one gets over.
Sideburnious Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 I thought they started adding the pinfall stipulation to cage matches cause fat messes such as Rikishi and Big show wouldnt be able 2 climb over the top and win
rising up out of the back seat-nuh Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 It was just done to continue the Jericho/Austin feud. Jericho gets a belt, Austin steals it from him. Instant beef.
Guest Salacious Crumb Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 Ummm....... Rikishi's done a splash off the top of a cage before so I'd assume he could climb out.
EdwardKnoxII Posted October 28, 2003 Author Report Posted October 28, 2003 It was just done to continue the Jericho/Austin feud. There are way more better ways they could have done that.
{''({o..o})''} Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 I know this probably isn't the best place, but does anybody else find the escape rule just plain retarded? Ok, you and your opponent hate each other, a normal match can't contain the anger, so run away as fast as possible to win.
Guest Salacious Crumb Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 Yeah it's kind of a stupid stipulation but how else are they going to have a reason to do top of the cage spots?
EdwardKnoxII Posted October 28, 2003 Author Report Posted October 28, 2003 I know this probably isn't the best place, but does anybody else find the escape rule just plain retarded? Ok, you and your opponent hate each other, a normal match can't contain the anger, so run away as fast as possible to win. Yeah I've been saying that for as long as I've been a wrestling fan. And it really messes up the flow of the match and makes you ask alot of questions. Like why doesn't he just go out the door instead of climbing the cage? And then when someone climbs the cage they do it really slow alot of times.
Guest Dynamite Kido Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 It was just done to continue the Jericho/Austin feud. There are way more better ways they could have done that. There are better ways to do a lot of things. This is the WWE here.......
Guest nikowwf Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 Ok, they give us 20 minutes of RVD/Jericho and do it without killing either one of them and you people have a thread bitching about it. niko
Guest Mulatto Heat Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 RVD/Jericho isn't exactly a scintillating matchup in the first place, so I don't see your point.
Guest nikowwf Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 It beats MARK HENRY vs. ANYBODY or LANCE STORM GETS SQUASHED AGAIN or WANNABE NATURAL BORN THRILLERS GETS SQUASHED BY EVOLUTION. niko
Guest Mulatto Heat Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 So because of that, the lapses in logic that was pointed out the first post should be ignored, simply because it's RVD/Jericho, a matchup that was beaten to the ground a year ago? OK.
rising up out of the back seat-nuh Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 It was just done to continue the Jericho/Austin feud. There are way more better ways they could have done that. I dunno, it's a good way to play up to Austin's heelish face persona. And it builds up to the SS match pretty well.
Guest nikowwf Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 I disagree with the bitching it didnt help either guy. Not everything has to help either guys. Allowing one of the best workers on your roster to get 20 minutes, and allowing him to win once so he's not squashed in the process doesn't strike me as bad booking. And why wouldn't Stone Cold put the second fall in the cage? Its a fun thing to do, and he's supposed to be the more fun GM. niko
Guest Mulatto Heat Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 See, there you go, you could have posted that the first time instead of just bitching even more than the others. At least this is constructive.
Guest Quik Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 It's very simple: Raw just wouldn't be Raw without a horribly contrived SWERVE~!
Guest nikowwf Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 Ill agree with you there. They even swerve the simplest things...they pretend Bischoff is mad at Evolution when he comes out for no reason, except so he can SWERVE the announcers. I blame Russo for this. niko
Guest PowerPB13 Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 I am not permitted to enjoy WWE's product under any circumstances. -Patrick
Guest Choken One Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 The REAL purpose was simply to set up the teams...and Make Team Bischoff look unbeatable. The Match didn't hurt Jericho at ALL as the show left with Jericho perched on the cage bloody and grining looking at the chaos of the mess he instigated. The whole Heel beatdown had that Horseman/War Game feel to it...The faces getting totally dominated as Steiner and Henry threw Booker, RVD and Dudleys all around the ring. The title factor meant nothing as it will only give something else for Jericho to bitch about and that's a good thing.
Guest Mulatto Heat Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 It's not like the IC title means anything to anyone. Jericho, for all that has happened to him, is considered above it, and RVD has publicly stated that he doesn't care about it.
Guest Choken One Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 Jericho never said he wanted the title but just wanted to teach RVD a lesson and he did just that
Fökai Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 I know this probably isn't the best place, but does anybody else find the escape rule just plain retarded? Ok, you and your opponent hate each other, a normal match can't contain the anger, so run away as fast as possible to win. Yeah, but that's why they now have the pin rule. Promotions began to realize that the escape rule was bad in hindsight, but it worked in some cases (small pussy heel v. macho face to blowoff the feud). Now that they have the Hell in the Cell gimmick to use that type of heel/face dynamic, cage matches become a simple competition of "who escapes first".
Guest JRE Posted October 28, 2003 Report Posted October 28, 2003 *scrolls through thread quickly* 2 Title changes in one night...no big fuss need be made about the winning. It's just a cool thing- hell, it's a future trivia question. It's a simple oddity of a title reign. Demeaning to no one. And certainly not demeaning to the belt.
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