RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2003 Nog: Man, I wish I had the skills of that Undertaker... Hmmmm.... *Pride Final Conflict* Busta: Jesus Christ Nog, what the hell is that? Nog: What? You don't like the purple gloves? Busta: .... Nog: Hey brother, how's it going? *Lil Nog comes out in a Kane mask* Lil Nog: Do I really have to wear this?? Nog: Yes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NCJ Report post Posted November 6, 2003 I almost laughed my ass off at the thought of Nog and Lil'Nog walking around in Undertaker and Kane gear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2003 All matches on this card will be either great, or just fun to watch. Henderson-Busta and Nog-Cro Cop are what I'm looking forward to the most, but than I think of the actual tournament matches. This may be the best MMA card ever (a trend with Pride these days). I'm still waiting for the update on this superfight: Vs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2003 Fedor makes his picks! The forecast from Fedor Emelyanenko On official website of Pride have already appeared names of fighters of Grand prix in heavy weight up to 93 kg, which is planned for November 9. Fedor Emelyanenko has tried to make the forecast about each of meetings and a result of the championship. In relation to the duel of Gary ”Big Daddy” Goodridge and Dan ”The Bull” Bobish Feodor can not make any forecasts as he is not familiar with Dan’s performances and practically knows nothing about his style and his physical form. In pair Quinton ”Rampage” Jackson – Chuck ” The Iceman ” Liddell, in opinion of Fedor, Jackson will win. In duel Wanderlei Silva – Hidehiko Yoshida Fedor prophesies a victory of Silva. The Fourth duel between Dan Henderson and Murilo Bustamante, most likely, will end with a drawn game. In fight Heath Herring against Norihisa Yamamoto the winner, in opinion of Fedor, becomes Herring though recently he lost many duels and it is not clear in what form is he now. Fight Kazushi Sakuraba against Kevin Randleman will end with victory of Randleman. In champion fight in heavy weight Mirko ”Cro Cop” Filipovic against Antonio Rodrigo ”Minotauro” Nogueira, Nogueira will win. And fight, Feodor considers, will be ended ahead of schedule if Antonio will be possible to transfer the fight in struggle, if it will not happen, most likely, Filipovic knocks out the contender. Well and the champion of Grand prix in weight up to 93 kg, in view of former forecasts, in opinion of Fedor Emelyanenko becomes Wanderlei Silva. And we have to wait and observe only, in fact any forecasts, even from sportsmen of the highest class, can appear incorrect, taking into account unpredictability of this kind of sports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2003 Oh shit, everyone has to read this interview Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr. Quinton Jackson : : By Thomas Gerbasi (November 5, 2003) Sometimes it's just too easy. If you cover this game long enough, every once in a while you'll get lucky and interview someone who needs no fancy introductions or verbal gyrations to make their story jump - someone who just tells you his take on life with the type of style that makes you laugh out loud, while at the same time hanging on every word, not sure where the nuggets of wisdom will fit their way between the 'motherf**kers'. Quinton Jackson is that type of someone, though truth be told, his style is not for the faint of heart or easily offended. Then again, what funny stuff isn't offensive in some way? I guess the point is, after a few minutes on the phone with the man called 'Rampage' it's safe to say that the world of mixed martial arts could use more of the Memphis native. Jackson agrees - with a disclaimer of course. "They need to pay this one more money too," he quips. On Sunday, there will be no more talking for 25-year-old Jackson as he prepares for the biggest night of his professional life when he aims to win the Pride Middleweight Grand Prix in Japan. First on his plate is semifinal opponent Chuck Liddell, and if he gets by the 'Iceman', either Wanderlei Silva or Hidehiko Yoshida await him in the final. Needless to say, all things Pride have been on Jackson's mind for sometime now. "It's kinda weird because it is the biggest fight in my history," he admits. "Everything I do I think about this. Can you imagine, everything? I can't even get head without thinking about it." Yup, that's Quinton Jackson, where no line is off limits, and the precise reason why he is a favorite of the MMA media from here to Tokyo. But take away the bluster, the one-liners, and the happy-go-lucky attitude, and you've got perhaps the most underrated fighter in mixed martial arts today. Active in the sport since late in 1999, Jackson, with little formal training, has tore through the ranks with a mixture of athletic skill, heart, and a ferocious fighting style, epitomized by his trademark slams. He's lost twice legitimately (by decision to Marvin Eastman and by choke to Kazushi Sakuraba) and once by a questionable disqualification to Daijiro Matsui in December of 2001 (Want to hear a mouthful, ask Jackson about that defeat), and since then has quietly racked up an almost two year unbeaten streak, which includes wins over Kevin Randleman and Murilo Bustamante. Yet Jackson is unconcerned with such numbers, showing surprise when told of his winning streak. "I don't even think about that," said Jackson. "I didn't even know I was undefeated for that long until you told me about it." Hope I didn't jinx him. "I hope you didn't jinx me either," Jackson blurts. "But any fighter can beat any other fighter on any given day. Randy Couture beat Chuck (Liddell) that one day; maybe if they fought the next day Chuck could have beaten him. You never know. I try to keep a positive mentality at all times but I don't want to be a cocky fighter. It's not my style. I talk s**t, but that's just me. If you pay attention, I really don't talk s**t about my opponents unless they did something wrong to me." He pauses. "And when I talk about people's mamas, even they laugh about it." Jackson laughs, and for a guy possibly facing two of the baddest mothers (see Quinton, I can do it too) in the game today in Liddell and Silva, he's remarkably at ease. "I've trained real hard," said Jackson. "If it's meant for me to win this, I'm gonna win. That's the way I see it." For Jackson, training for a fight means a lot of blood, sweat, and tears, and under the watchful eye of Colin Oyama, plenty of strategic preparation in the weeks leading up to Sunday night. What it doesn't include for Jackson is a lot of tape watching. "Actually I didn't watch a lot of tape on him," said Jackson of Liddell. "I don't like to watch a lot of tape on my opponents. I watch to see what I need to know and that's it. I don't want to watch too much tape and then you go out there worried about what they're gonna do. Liddell's a tough fighter but he makes some mistakes in there. Everybody makes mistakes; I'm just gonna try and capitalize on the ones he makes." Considering he's coming off a victory over a man considered by many to be the best pound-for-pound fighters in the world in Bustamante (and on four days notice no less), you would think the oddsmakers would have given Jackson more credit as he gets ready for Liddell, but for 'Rampage', this type of underdog status is par for the course with him. "I never had anything easy in my life," said Jackson. "I've never been given anything and s**t has never been easy for me. So when I found out I was gonna be in the Grand Prix, I knew it was gonna be hard for me. Even my first round was hard. I thought I was gonna fight one guy (Ricardo Arona) and then I fight a damn UFC champion (Bustamante) with four days notice when I knew that he knew he was gonna fight me for longer than four days himself. That was hard for me, but I survived that. I've got the least experience of everybody in this tournament. I've just been fighting on the street all my life. That's what I bring to the table. Even though these guys may have more professional fights than I have, I've got more fights. And when I fight, I'm fighting for my life. Maybe that will help me out a little bit." Maybe, maybe not. Especially when the deck seems already stacked in favor of current Pride middleweight champ Silva, who is expected to barely break a sweat against Yoshida, the former Olympic judo champion, and then face the winner of the Jackson-Liddell war, the survivor of which is expected to be battered and bruised come final time. Does Jackson think Yoshida has a chance against the 'Axe Murderer'? "I see it the same way as everybody else sees it," he deadpans. "Silva's got an easy way to the final. He's the champion, and they want to protect their champion. I'll say this though. If I do lose this tournament, I can guarantee you this, motherf***ers gon' be hurt." Win or lose though, Jackson, who has become a fan favorite in the Land of the Rising Sun, will remain the people's choice. And he wouldn't have it any other way. "I'd rather fight in Japan than America," Jackson admits. "If you watch Pride, after the fight, even if the fighter loses, the fans still cheer for him. Watch a fighter lose in America and see what the fans do. I feel better fighting in Japan. I don't care what the American fans say if I say some s**t like this anyway. The American fans need to respect the fighters as who they are. Somebody got to win and somebody got to lose. Both fighters can't be winners - somebody's got to lose." For over two years, the losing corner hasn't been Jackson's. And if he wins the Grand Prix on Sunday, he may become Dreamstage Entertainment's poster boy when Pride makes its expected foray into the United States market in 2004. But even though US success has been a dream for many stateside standouts in Pride for years now, Jackson seems nonplussed by the idea - in his own inimitable style. "It's cool but I don't fight to be a famous guy or anything," he said. "I started fighting to pay the bills. I like the fans and everything, and they're cool, but what heterosexual guy wants to get their rocks off by a bunch of guys knowing them? If I was a movie star or something, it would be different, because girls would know who I was too. But in America, only guys know who I am, so it's not a big deal to me. In Japan, girls come up to me too and ask for autographs and stuff like that too. But in America, girls rarely know who I am." "Even if we (Pride) come to the States, it don't mean s**t," Jackson continues. "I hang around other fighters and I don't see girls going up to the guys who fight in the UFC. This is not a sport that girls watch. If I was acting in a soap opera, it would be different. Girls would come up to me and then it would be worth it. Girls going crazy over you, yeah, but a bunch of guys, come on. It's nice and cool and everything, but it's not something that floats my boat." Like it or not, if Quinton Jackson makes a few appearances with Pride in the States, stardom will have to follow, but strangely enough, the fact that this conversation is even taking place after the hardships Jackson has gone through in his life is an amazing story in itself, though you won't hear him say it. Well, you may, so let's end it with the man himself…So Quinton, what would you have said if someone told you five years ago that you would be on magazine covers, headlining the biggest tournament in mixed martial arts in front of 50,000 fans and countless others on pay-per-view? "Get out of my motherf***in' face, you bullsh**ting me. Get out of my face before I bitch smack your ass." http://www.maxfighting.com/Gerbasi/gerbasi_110503.asp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2003 "It's kinda weird because it is the biggest fight in my history," he admits. "Everything I do I think about this. Can you imagine, everything? I can't even get head without thinking about it." Hello, sig. Seriously, if he is not on all the Leno type shows, every radio show, every ESPN show when they come to America next year, DSE is doing something wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2003 "I started fighting to pay the bills. I like the fans and everything, and they're cool, but what heterosexual guy wants to get their rocks off by a bunch of guys knowing them? If I was a movie star or something, it would be different, because girls would know who I was too. But in America, only guys know who I am, so it's not a big deal to me. In Japan, girls come up to me too and ask for autographs and stuff like that too. But in America, girls rarely know who I am." "Even if we (Pride) come to the States, it don't mean s**t," Jackson continues. "I hang around other fighters and I don't see girls going up to the guys who fight in the UFC. This is not a sport that girls watch. If I was acting in a soap opera, it would be different. Girls would come up to me and then it would be worth it. Girls going crazy over you, yeah, but a bunch of guys, come on. It's nice and cool and everything, but it's not something that floats my boat." P U R E G E N I U S Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Son of Sting Report post Posted November 7, 2003 So Quinton, what would you have said if someone told you five years ago that you would be on magazine covers, headlining the biggest tournament in mixed martial arts in front of 50,000 fans and countless others on pay-per-view? "Get out of my motherf***in' face, you bullsh**ting me. Get out of my face before I bitch smack your ass." To good. Seriously, if he is not on all the Leno type shows, every radio show, every ESPN show when they come to America next year, DSE is doing something wrong. Great point,he is the guy to get Pride noticed in the States. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NCJ Report post Posted November 7, 2003 Quinton Jackson = the MMA Muhammad Ali. funniest shit I have ever read. I want him to win just to hear the post match interview Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted November 8, 2003 It's tomorrow, I'm pretty damn psyched. I'm worried as all hell for Heath. He's like a great fighter and all, and is really exciting, one of my favourites. But my confidence in him isn't that high, since the first three fights of his that I saw were: vs. Fedor, vs. Noguiera, vs. Filipovic. UGH! In the other corner, isn't this the Japanese wrestler that the fans actually *dislike* because of how he stalled against Rickson? I wanna see a slaughter, as I hope that this is the "sick attraction" match of the card. Okay, no such term exists but y'all know what I mean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2003 I found this to be an interesting read for those who are looking forward mostly to the tourney (I like the heavyweight and 185 lb match myself): Dana White Interview My favourite part; when asked on whether Chuck is just training for Rampage, or also for Yoshida and Silva: Dana White: I’ll be honest; we’ve structured this thing around Rampage and Silva without even putting Yoshida in mind. I want to bet on the over/under on what row Yoshida’s head will land in when Silva hits him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2003 Quick predictions: Gary Goodridge vs. Daniel Bobish (Bobish by TKO, Rd. 1) Chuck Liddell vs. Quinton Jackson (Liddell by decision, yes, decision!) Wanderlei Silva vs. Hidehiko Yoshida (Silva by TKO, Rd. 1) Murilo Bustamante vs. Dan Henderson (Busta by submission, Rd. 2) Heath Herring vs. Norihisa Yamamoto (Herring by TKO, Rd. 1) Kazushi Sakuraba vs. Kevin Randleman (Randleman by TKO, Rd. 3) Mirko Cro Cop vs. Nogueira (Cro Cop by KO, Rd. 1) Final: Wandy vs. Chuck (Chuck by decision, Chuck is prepared. Silva and Jackson are tough enough to last to the end with Liddell, but Liddell will control the match. I see no controversial decisions, so this is my "balls-out" pick of the night.) Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2003 Heath is a great fighter, considering he lost to the top three heavyweights in the world! Watch Heath's fights against Erikson (Pride 11), Enson Inoue (Pride 12), Vovchanchyn (Pride 19) and his destruction of Kerr at Pride 15 and you will see Heath's talent. He is very well rounded, he just picks bad game plans IMO. My Pride top 10 HW's: 1. Fedor 2. Cro Cop 3. Nogueira 4. Herring 5. Frye 6. Vovchanchyn 7. Coleman 8. Schilt 9. Goodridge 10. Fujita Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest neodragonsan Report post Posted November 9, 2003 Spoilers ahead Spoiler (Highlight to Read): Goodridge vs. Bobish Goodridge won!? What the hell happened? Does this put the Herring vs. Bobish fight into limbo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
