Osama, you want a duel, you'll get one

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

http://www.pakistanchristianpost.com/newsd....php?newsid=398

 

Dear Osama,

 

We have noted that you like to refer to America and Great Britain as "Crusader states," and you have referred to just about everybody you don't like as Crusaders.

 

We doubt that you really believe there are any Crusaders left, as we doubt that you really believe in God. You would not taunt Crusaders if you really believed in them, because you are a craven coward who cherishes his own flesh while admonishing your followers to blow themselves up. You are an infidel, because no one who truly believes in God would sanction the killing of innocent men, women, and children. Your actions show you to be both a coward and an infidel, because you ask your followers to do what you are afraid to do, and you don't believe there is a God who will condemn you for your vile actions against Islam and humanity

 

(..)

 

Not only that, but to prove to the entire world that you are a coward and an infidel, this Knight Templar challenges you to single combat in the sands of Pakistan. I challenge you to meet me with scimitar or sword, to be pitted against myself and a holy sword consecrated to our Order-a sword that was forged to destroy evil. Here's the deal: if I win, Al Qaeda is disbanded-forever. If you win, then you can set the head of a Knight Templar on a pike outside your tent, and you can claim that you slew the chief of all Crusaders in the United States.

 

I call you out of the shadows to face me-and to face your own fears. How long can you go on, hiding behind women and sacrificing your followers, while you-the spoiled son of a rich family-sit in safe houses and eat rich food? How long can you live a lie, pretending to be a jihadist when all you crave is to be the sultan of a new Arab empire, an empire will be secular and not Islamic?

 

You could, of course, send your minions to kill me before that combat occurs. But if you send others to do your fighting for you, the news of your cowardice will reverberate from the Kunjerab Pass to the beaches of Gwydar, from Riyadh to Jakarta. It will be recorded in the history books that the great Osama bin Laden, the would-be leader of jihadists around the world, quailed before a Crusader, and cried out for others to save him. The name Osama will be equated with cowardice before a Crusader, and no family will ever so name a son again. You will be known as the "Cowardly Infidel" who knew that he could not count upon his personal courage or God to deliver him, for he possessed a belief in neither.

 

We know, Osama, that this message will reach you. You can reply to it through Al-Jazeera, which is always happy to act as the mouthpiece for murderers. In fact, Al Jazeera can film the combat and show it on television sets across the world. You would be defeated before the eyes of millions, but at least you would have retained a shred of personal honor. You would at least have proved yourself to be a man, a goal that has so far eluded you.

 

(...)

 

My prediction, however, is that you will ignore the challenge. But be forewarned that your leadership will first be questioned in whispers, then in hushed conversations, and finally to your face. Your courage will first be questioned, then disputed, and then openly challenged. It will be the beginning of the end for you.

 

Your own followers will accomplish what your opponents have not yet managed to accomplish, once they realize that you are craven coward who always runs, but never stands and fights.

 

(..)

 

If you have me killed by treachery, you will have shamed Saladin and all Muslims who fought honorably in the past. Most importantly, you will have shamed Islam, because you have claimed to be acting in the name of the Prophet-and you will then be known throughout all eternity as the Anti-Prophet.

 

A Knight Templar believes that to live for Christ is glory, and to die for Him is gain. Let us step into the arena, Osama, so that your followers can see what it really is that you believe.

 

And, because I know that you are horribly afraid to die, I will offer you mercy if you ask for it. Knights Templar observe the rules of chivalry, and I tell you that it is merely your defeat as an agent of evil, and not your death, that I seek. As a Christian, I still have hope that you will forsake Satan and will follow the path of peace and love. And truly, no one who loves God can glory in the death of another human being.

 

You can see that I offer you at least a modicum of mercy, which is much more than you offered the innocent men, women, and children that you slew by cowardly proxy on September 11th.

 

 

I await your answer . . . !

 

 

--Chevalier James R. Reese

 

Grand Prior of the United States

 

Now.. that's just stomping on a man's testicles

 

and I've said the same about Osama. He's a lanky coward. His group is built on lies and manipulating people. Osama turned against the US when we beat him for a military contract, not because of a noble cause, but because of his own interests.

 

his endorsement of the Palestineans is just more gesturing to get more bodies to die for him.

 

Osama is a murderer, Osama is the most evil politican on this planet, he manipulates as a way to move through life. He's nothing but a snake.

 

I got 5 on the Knight.

[Justice 0]

I have to say that's pretty badass to be a Knight Templar today, and that letter is just golden. Beautiful.

[Guest LooseCannon]

It's extremely odd to claim to be a member of the Knights Templar today, considering that the order was disbanded early in the 14th Century and all of the knights were arrested, accused of heresy, and put to death. Presumably, then, this guy is nothing more than a member of one of those wacky masonic lodges who claim lineage to the Templars. Whether the lineage of freemasonry goes back to the Templars is of course speculative and subject to dispute. What is certain, is that today the masons are composed exclusively of weird old men who give each other "secret handshakes" and who put on one hell of a circus. Nevertheless, I'd like to see this duel happen, if only for what I feel is its comedic potential.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

In related news, my God's cock is bigger than your God's cock.

[Justice 0]

In related news, my God's cock is bigger than your God's cock.

I think it was more about fighting the guy one on one as a matter of honor rather than simply Christianity vs. Islam since he said he shamed Islam and all, but whatever.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

I quit taking him seriously here:

 

You are an infidel, because no one who truly believes in God would sanction the killing of innocent men, women, and children

 

Now, regarding his moral criticism of a certain infamous terrorist bastard, he's utterly full of himself (or maybe shit). It's the equivalent of banging on someone's screen door to challenge them to a scrap down by the swingset. We KNOW that Osama's not coming out of his hidey-hole. Calling the guy a chickenshit is just redundant, and doing so under the guise as some "defender of faith" is indeed full of comic potential.

 

Honor? Chivalry? This is the guy that had some minions wreck airplanes into civilians, I think it's a bit late to call him out on these points. If they did fight, I hope Osama would jack his jaw, just because I know a special ops guy would be right there with a rifle to smoke his ass like it should've been a couple years ago. That way, a dumbass would get embarassed first.

[Guest Brian]

Besides, we all know how seriously Christianity has taken "Though shall not kill" over the years. As Carlin says, it's negotiable.

[Guest FrigidSoul]

If Osama accepts I bet we see Don King representing him

[Firestarter 0]

In related news, my God's cock is bigger than your God's cock.

Besides, we all know how seriously Christianity has taken "Though shall not kill" over the years. As Carlin says, it's negotiable.

 

Granted, plus all the other criticisms. Still, this is pretty cool, and there's plenty of historical precedent. Trial by combat: he who triumphs by the grace of God is vindicated before all men. Since UBL has laid out his attack on the United States in the guise of a moral imperative ordained by God, the Prior is perfectly within his rights to issue a challenge which should prove or disprove UBL's claims of divine favour once and for all.

 

Not that it'd make one bit of difference to me.

Edited November 4, 2003 by Cancer Marney

[Swift Terror 0]

The "thou shall not kill" commandmant is the English translation, which is a very long time removed from the original. It is actually the idea of "Thou shall not commit Murder." A devoted Jew or Christian is perfectly within his rights--and not commiting sin--to use lethal force to defend himself/herself if attacked by someone wishing to kill them, or in time of war.

 

Hey, why not film the encounter, perhaps Tarentino or Peter Jackson, it could be a Showtime special.

 

This guy should have called out any Al-Qaida, he knows damn well Osama himself will be a no-go.

[Styles 0]

Here's the deal: if I win, Al Qaeda is disbanded-forever. If you win, then you can set the head of a Knight Templar on a pike outside your tent, and you can claim that you slew the chief of all Crusaders in the United States.

BAH GOD! Its gonna be at the Survivor Series! If Bin Laden loses, Al Queda is broken up FOREVER! The stakes couldn't be higher...

[Jobber of the Week 0]

BAH GOD! Its gonna be at the Survivor Series! If Bin Laden loses, Al Queda is broken up FOREVER! The stakes couldn't be higher...

<Schiavone>Is there dissention in the Islamic World Order? TUNE INTO NITRO TO FIND OUT</Schiavone>

[Downhome 0]

The "thou shall not kill" commandmant is the English translation, which is a very long time removed from the original. It is actually the idea of "Thou shall not commit Murder." A devoted Jew or Christian is perfectly within his rights--and not commiting sin--to use lethal force to defend himself/herself if attacked by someone wishing to kill them, or in time of war.

Good job.

[Guest SP-1]

Very good job.

[Downhome 0]

Very good job.

OMG, you still live and breathe? Where in the world have you been?

[Guest SP-1]

College. I lurk more than post these days. There's a ton of reading here between Old Testament Survey and Western Civ alone.

[Downhome 0]

Well good to see you and I'm glad you are doing ok.

[Guest Brian]

Crusades

[Justice 0]

Crusades

Well, it was a war for ownership of the Holy Land. When one declares war, it kinda waves murder rights. Now whether the war was justified or not, you have a case.

[Guest Brian]

I can see your point, but the whole killing thing then becomes a big mess, which is how you end up with a guy waging a holy war and justifying religious murder.

[Justice 0]

I can see your point, but the whole killing thing then becomes a big mess, which is how you end up with a guy waging a holy war and justifying religious murder.

Indeed, but this was really a land war rather than a terror campaign. But yeah, it is a real gray area.

[Guest JMA]

Seems like almost anyone in fit shape with even a small knowledge of fighting could take down Osama in a one-on-one fight. He's sickly and thin. Saddam, on the other hand, is a different story. He WAS a hired killer.

[Guest jpclemmons]

Seems like almost anyone in fit shape with even a small knowledge of fighting could take down Osama in a one-on-one fight. He's sickly and thin. Saddam, on the other hand, is a different story. He WAS a hired killer.

but Saddams over 65.

[Guest JMA]

Seems like almost anyone in fit shape with even a small knowledge of fighting could take down Osama in a one-on-one fight. He's sickly and thin. Saddam, on the other hand, is a different story. He WAS a hired killer.

but Saddams over 65.

There is that...

[Justice 0]

Seems like almost anyone in fit shape with even a small knowledge of fighting could take down Osama in a one-on-one fight. He's sickly and thin. Saddam, on the other hand, is a different story. He WAS a hired killer.

but Saddams over 65.

You know what this means? Handicap match.

[Guest SP-1]

Damned Crusades.

[Guest Brian]

Not to mention the inquisition and works of colonialism.

[Downhome 0]

There have obviously been times where religious people, Christians, have killed in the name of God, but we can't harp on that for the end of time.

 

Mistakes have been made in the past, there is nothing we can do about it.

 

What we can do however is move forward, and learn from the mistakes of those that came before us.

 

There are a lot of people right now in this world who kill, murder, people in the name of THEIR god. We can just hope that those people also learn to move forward and realize it is wrong to do that sort of thing.

[Swift Terror 0]

The Popes of that time were really nothing more than secular warlords--religion was the last thing on their mind. Foremost in their mind was wealth, power and land. Yes, the Crusaders wanted to take back the Holy Land and they believed Muslims to be Infidels. They commited monsterous acts of inhumanity. At the same time, the Muslims believed the Christians to be Infidels and they too commited atrocities. And, as opposed to the Popes, the Muslim leaders were not secular and betraying their religion, they were following it.

 

So there you are, both sides are not innocent. Too bad high schools and universities only present one side--bad, intolerant Christians against the noble Muslims. That was my experience in college.

[LaParkaMarka 0]

Here's the deal: if I win, Al Qaeda is disbanded-forever. If you win, then you can set the head of a Knight Templar on a pike outside your tent, and you can claim that you slew the chief of all Crusaders in the United States.

Is it just me, or is that a really lame stip on the Knight's end? I assume that Osama doesn't see some guy who says he's a Knight Templar as "the chief of all crusaders in the US"...that has to be Bush.

 

Plus, even if Osama lost, Al Qaeda would break up and then pretend to join the Knights only to turn on them in a shocking swerve, reforming as Al Qaeda 2: Electric Boogaloo.