Pride FC Final Conflict Results

[Guest shez316]

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1st fight.

 

Bobbish vs. Goodridge.

 

This fight blew. No way around it. They came out, and Gary hit Bobbish in the face. Bobbish then claimed that his eye had been scratched (perhapes by the glove?), at anyrate, Gary went in and repeatedly hit Bobbish for the TKO. Kinda like Goodridge vs. Fedor but in reverse and less brutal and entertaining. Oh well.

 

2nd fight.

 

Liddell vs. Jackson.

 

As usual, Liddell was getting tagged early on. He managed to counter Jackson at times, and Jackson was not able to use his slams. Liddell seemed to have a bit more power in his strikes, but Jackson was much faster and much more more consistent in terms of accuracy. At the end of the first round, the score would be close but Jackson would have had the lead on the judges card. Mind you, this is basically the story of EVERY Liddell fight, so one was wondering if he would do his comeback thing that he always does. NOPE. Jackson came out firing, and backed Liddell up. Liddell is damn tough and Jackson used a takedown and then did some GNP. Liddell was clearly out of it but his corner kept the fight going for a while before throwing in the towel. Jackson by TKO.

 

3rd fight.

 

Silva vs. Yoshida.

 

Everyone here knows that I am a huge fan of judo, but that I am pretty realistic in terms of picking fights. So I figured that Yoshida wouldn't win, but was really hoping that he would. When the bell went everyone was wondering if Silva would be able get to Yoshida's chin before the takedown. Well, Yoshida got the takedown right away (off of a double). Silva was in guard, and, once again, showed that he is a truely complete fighter. Yoshida backed Silva up towards the ropes and was going for the pass, but Silva maintained control and then went for a triangle. He attempted the triangle for quite a while, but it was never deep, nor did Silva really seem to worry about it as he was keeping his cool. Yoshida got out of the triangle and passed Silva's guard to side control. They reset them in the middle and Silva gets up. Silva then starts going on the offensive, but Yoshida clinches and times his uchimata perfectly. He then starts to go for a choke, but Silva gets guard back, and Yoshida is basically just trying to pass as the bell rings. Round 2 would start with Silva going on the offensive and busts Yoshida up. The HUGE surprise here is that Yoshida showed that he has a CHIN. No shit! He got tagged, went for a weak single, got tagged, and then starting trading with Silva. Silva backed up into a corner, and Yoshida got tagged as he was going for another takedown and ended up on his back with half-guard. There was only about 2 min. left in the second (and final) round now, so Silva was being patient to make sure that he didn't screw up since he would be ahead on the cards. Yoshida was careful not to get tagged and managed to reverse Silva right before the fight ended. A pretty good performance considering it was Yoshida's fourth fight (ie. he did better than anyone has against Silva since Henderson). Silva gets the JD.

 

4th fight

 

Henderson vs. Bustamante.

 

This was probably the most interesting fight on paper to me. Two guys who are probably rulers of the MW class but are currently fighting at LHW. Bustamante was about 4kg heavier, and even if he was 4kg lighter, I figured that Bustamante was too well-rounded. They come out and Henderson throws a kick. They clinch a bit, Busta gets stuffed on a takedown (going by memory here, a bit off probably), and his head exposed. BANG. HUGE knee from Henderson. Busta rolls onto his back, but you can tell that something is wrong. He tries to sit up and he just isn't doing it right (ie. he is off-balance while he is sitting down). Henderson is throwing hte punches while this is going on, and as Bustamante is clearly stunned from the knee, the ref has to step in and stop the fight. Henderson by TKO in a fair stoppage.

 

5th fight

 

Herring vs. Yamamoto

 

Now, this fight SHOULD have been a mismatch, but it wasn't. Either Herring has gone downhill, or Yamamoto really does deserve to be there. Herring basically had a lot more power, but Yamamoto was tough enough during the first two rounds to get the takedown even if he was tagged first. He didn't seem to be offensive enough in terms of using his superior position to go for strikes. He did a bit, but not that much. He would usually try to work towards mount and go for a sub, but Herring is the master of reversing and would escape, hit his opponent, get back to his feet and then we would repeat. In the third round Yamamoto was tiring and Herring was fresh(ish). He would start to hit Yamamoto more and more, and finally Yamamoto did a sloppy takedown, got his back taken and was choked into submission. My observation was that: Yamamoto can still get in better shape and that Herring REALLY needs to work on his wrestling. No kidding. He won't be able to break back into the top 5 (like he use to be) unless he can work on his takedown defense when he wants to keep it standing, and conversely in order to do that, he will need better takedowns himself (or CroCop will happen).

 

6th fight.

 

Sakuraba vs. Randleman.

 

Man, I am HUGE Sakuraba fan. I will cheer for him against anyone (regardless of style). I was really nervous before watching this one ;o). Before the fight Pride played up Randleman's jumping ability, they even pointed out that he once fell when jumping before a UFC event and hurt himself (the infamous pipe incident). When he walked down the walkway he was jumping away and they had a Donkey Kong barrel in the background (Randleman was playing it up too before anyone gets pissed). For Saku, well they played the Mario brothers music. He came out as Mario and looked focused. The fight started out slowly with both just waiting for the other to move. Randleman was clearly going to go for a sprawl and brawl win. No GNP here (and for good reason, Saku is much more dangerous on the mat than he is standing). Randleman would hit Saku, Saku would hit Randleman back, Randleman would put Saku on his back when Saku would go for a kick, Saku would try the keylock, but Randleman was too strong. Randleman didn't do much pounding either as he was being careful. This went on for 2 rounds with Randleman on his way to a decision win. In the 3rd round, Saku would kick a bit more (prior to that Randleman had landed the best kicks), and during one exchange he gave his back (a consistent tactic during the fight), and as he went to the ground (with Randleman behind him), I couldn't help but notice that he had his arms ready for a keylock/kimura/ude. After about 15 seconds of waiting (for me), he went for it, Randleman jumped over his head, and Saku spun to the straight armbar. Saku by submission! Man, it has been a while. He is once again in the race. YES!

 

7th fight

 

Minotauro vs. CroCop

 

Prior to this fight they showed that Fedor was going to fight the winner, and there was some hyping towards next year. In the first round, CroCop was dominating. Minotauro managed to jump to guard once (off of a clinch), but CroCop defended well, got back to his feet and proceeded to start kicking. High high, middle, punch. Throw off a Minotauro takedown attempt (CroCop really is as strong as a small pony), and then proceed to repeat. At the end of the first round Minotauro was a bit busted up. However, at the start of the second Minotauro got a double, passed, got mount, waited, waited, waited, got the straight armbar. TEXTBOOK.

 

 

8th fight

 

Silva vs. Jackson

 

Man, fun staredown and right into fighting. Silva and Jackson square up and right when you think they are about to start throwing the bombs, Jackson goes for a slam and Silva gets the guillotine. Jackson had to be careful now and he eventually put Silva down very gently and got out. From there he started to GNP and Silva started to work his guard very well. Jackson would get some shots in but Silva got an armbar submission attempt in as well. Eventually Jackson and Silva are both slowing down and Jackson is doing the hit the ribs and keep your head down thing. Effective but not that exciting. At anyrate, both guys get a yellow card (or one of them, but it looked like both did, anyone?) for stalling (a bit premature maybe, but they really were SLOWING down right there with no one in danger and just rib shots occuring). Jackson is upset at this, but Silva starts pumping himself up. Jackson elects to trade and pays a BIG price. Silva is faster and would punch and then clinch. Knee knee. Punch, around now Jackson is getting staggered. 1, 2, 3, 4, knees and a few more punches, Jackson is on his back, he gets soccer kicked, gets up, Silva clinch, 1 punch, 2 punches, the ref finally calls the fight. Jackson is clearly OUT on his feet, but is one very very tough fighter. Silva is estatic. Silva by TKO.

 

So Silva now TKOs the guy who TKOed the guy who Tito (allegedly) ran from. Is Couture definitely #1 still? I am not sure anymore. Silva was just as tired going into the last fight as Jackson. The two will probably fight again soon with Silva's MW belt on the line (as Jackson was promised this fight), but I must say that Silva is def. the favourite going into that (look for Jackson to fight Silva in a way similar to how Randleman would have fought Silva if they do fight again). Yoshida did better than a lot against Randleman and proved that with a few more fights that he can do very well. His chin is there it would seem and he can take a beating and keep on coming. Sakuraba is back. Randleman was considered top 10 coming into this fight, no way Saku can be called washed up by so many people due to his Nino fight anymore. Minotauro is close to being back on top, but Fedor seemed very relaxed when it was announced that the two would fight. CroCop, like Yoshida, will need some more time to get his groundgame down, but he is definitely still a threat to anyone.

 

GREAT SHOW

 

Courtesy of Sothy from the TUF @ mma.tv

[Guest Jesse]

Sounds like one hell of a show, especially for a Silva fan like myself.

[Guest The Son of Sting]

1. Gary Goodridge beat Dan Bobish (R1 0:18) by KO.

 

Wasnt that intrested in the fight,no real surprise.This is another nail in the coffin for WJ.

 

2. PRIDE GP2003 - Semi Final: Quinton Jackson beat Chuck Liddell (R2 3:10) by TKO.

 

I like both fighters but wanted to see Silva/Jackson in the final rather than Silva/Liddell.

 

3. PRIDE GP2003 - Semi Final: Vanderlei Silva beat Hidehiko Yoshida (R3) by decision.

 

Sounds like the fight of the night from what i heard.Im glad Yoshida shut up some of his critics.

 

4. Dan Henderson beat Murilio Bustamante (R1 0:53) by KO.

 

Wow!!I thought this was going to be a war.Does this make Henderson the no1 contender?

 

5. Heath Herring beat Norihisa Yamamoto (R3 2:29) with a sleeper hold.

 

As expected.

 

6. Kazushi Sakuraba beat Kevin Randleman (R3 2:36) with a cross armbreaker.

 

Yes,Yes,Yes,I punched the air when i read that result.Im such a Sakuraba mark.

 

7. PRIDE Heavyweight Title #1 Contender Match: Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira beat Mirko Cro Cop (R2 1:45) with a cross armbreaker.

 

This was the hardest fight to call.Im shocked to see Cro Cop lose but not surprised to see Nog win, if that makes sense.

 

8. PRIDE GP2003 - Final: Vanderlei Silva beat Quinton Jackson (R1 6:28) by TKO.

 

Sounds like a great fight again.I wasnt fussed who won,just wanted to see a great final.

 

I cant wait to see this show,shame i have to wait a week or two for sites in the UK to get it.

[tpww7 0]

Is this going to be $30 like I am fearing?

[the pinjockey 0]

Goodridge/Bobish - You could see that Bobish had something wrong with the eye, there was a bump there. Sucked, but what are you going to do.

 

Lidell/Jackson - Yoshida/Silva - Silva/Jackson - dug all three of these matches a lot. Seemed like a good mix of matches. Street fight, technical fight, and a straight up ass kicking.

 

Henderson/Busta - Quick KO. A good, entertaining KO.

 

CroCop/Nog - This match fucking rocked. Nog is one tough son of a bitch.

 

Sak/Randleman - Well most cards have a bust, right?

 

And did I miss it or was Herring's match not on the broadcast? I don't remember skipping out for more than a minute at an point.

[the pinjockey 0]

I also have to throw in that the stage and set up put anything I have ever seen the WWF do to shame. And I marked out like a motherfucker for Sak's Mario entrance. I never thought I would see the day a fighters music started with the old SMB theme.

[Tim Cooke 0]

Great show.

 

Silva/Yoshida and Nogueria/CroCop were the 2 best fights.

 

Sak's win was a great moment though it is clear he is on his last legs.

 

Show of the year, by far.

 

Tim

[the pinjockey 0]

I have never seen Randleman before, but did that car accident that they talked about seem like it affected him a lot? They seemed to tap dance around it a little bit, but I have nothing to compare to.

[Guest neodragonsan]

If they skipped the Herring match, it was for the better. The bust of the night wasn't Saku/Randleman...it was Herring

[AboveAverage484 0]

Yeah, from what I heard on Sherdog, Herring sucked it up, and looked pretty sick. If you look closely when all the fighters are in the ring at the end, Herring is in there with a big sweater with the hood over his head. Sounds like he's sick to me. Anyway, at least he won.

 

Congrats to Nog, Silva, and Sak!

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

I am breathless. I avoided the spoilers all day so I could go in fresh. And all I have to say is... FUCK THE WWE. FUCK THEM! FUCK THE WWE FOLDER! PRIDE IS LIFE! This forum should be fucking dedicated to MMA! I wanna kick everyones fucking ass who doesn't watch it cause it is fucking LIFE! Never, NEVER, in wrestling have I been so emotionally invested as I was tonight - or at UFC 44, or at Pride Total Elimination, or at UFC 43, or at Pride 25... 5 great shows this year (5!) and we're not done yet. FUCK WRESTLING. I've watched it seemingly my whole life and right now I am saying FUCK WRESTLING. I am sweating right now cause I was fucking bouncing all around my living room... fuck the edge of my seat, I was off my fucking rocker going insane.

 

 

Bobish vs. Goodridge.

 

-Ended quickly, but I was happy to see Gary win. Bobish is a fucking pussy.

 

Rampage vs. Liddell

 

- Before the event, I wasn't really "feeling it". I mean, it already happened so it didn't have that "anything can happen" feel, cause it already happened... I just didn't know about it. But then this fight came and it was awesome and I was totally into it. This is probably the best stand-up fight since Frye/Takayama. Those bodyshots were the sickest I've seen... and I've seen Fedor. Liddell has been exposed as someone who is virtually clueless on his back.

 

Silva vs. Yoshida

 

FUCK YEAH! YOSHIDA!!!! FUCK YOU! The only reason he's missing from my sig is because there wasn't enough room... YOSHIDA IS THE REAL MOTHERFUCKING DEAL MOTHERFUCKERS! He took some sick shots in that match and kept on ticking.

 

Hendo vs. Busta

-ROCK ON!! Henderson is the man! Take THAT Brazilian Top Team!~ You bunch of fucking cockfuckers!

 

Sakuraba vs. Randleman

- I'll admit it. I thought Sakuraba was going to get fucked up. And I'll admit it. I was jumping up and down when he won. All that stalling made the finish extra sweet for me. It was just a matter of time.

 

Mirko Cro Cop vs. Nog

-WHOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOO!!!! Not only do the anti-yoshida cocksmacks get told but the crocop nutswingers got to see their hero cry like a fucking whorebitch. This was an amazing fight. I want to write a fucking book about it and entitle it "How I got my ass kicked and still fucking won" cause Nog is the fucking MAN. BTT FOR LIFE MOTHERFUCKERS!

 

Silva vs. Rampage

-What was that?

 

What was that?

 

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT?

 

Was that like, 20 knees??? It had to be. I am going to watch that fight over and over again to count how many knees rampage took. Silva is scary. Him smiling while kneeing Rampage is sick, sick, sick... god I love it. That was just a fucking brutal display and much love to Jackson for taking that ass kicking like a man.

 

And fuck it, Damon was fucking good too.

 

2003 was an awesome year for MMA and it's ALWAYS getting better. FUCK WRESTLING.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Randlemans fights are usually like that Pin. His first fight in Pride was just plain bad.

[AboveAverage484 0]

Randy vs. Wanderlei.

 

Get some.

[AboveAverage484 0]

Yeah, when you go to a decision with Michiyoshi fukcing Ohara you know you've got problems. Looked good against Ninja, though.

[the pinjockey 0]

I'll second the idea that Damon was good. He still seems to try a little too hard to be funny, but he is pretty good. He seems to get shat on a little unfairly.

[the pinjockey 0]

I also loved the sound of Dana White's voice during the Lidell fight. He sounded so pissed off that Chuck wasn't doing what he was supposed to and it was gold. I wonder if he is still going to tell everyone that Chuck is his steady guy, like in the prematch package.

[AboveAverage484 0]

I noticed BIG improvements in Damon, too. He was less of a dweeb than before.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Yeah, less BAYBEE's but still the same amount of "Obviously" - but that's cool. He referred most the technical stuff to Bas and helped draw information out of him. Really good work.

 

Rampage is still #1 contender - I'd like to see them go again at Inferno. Though I don't think Jackson would want to after that slaughter.

[the pinjockey 0]

This event has me pumped now for some more fighting action next weekend with Survivor Series.

 

Why is everyone looking at me funny? What is with the stones?

 

:Slowly backs away:

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Dana White was a good addition to the announce team. It added drama to the fight.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Ummm I mean... PRIDE RULEZ!

[the pinjockey 0]

RRR:Season 1 Angel was a lot better than I remembered it. Very underrated.

 

Yeah he was. I remember when Angel got an armbar on Sakuraba. No one ever saw that one coming. That was a big win for a newcomer.

 

You aren't getting off that easy my friend.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Um what are you talking about Pin. You're so crazy. What are you responding to? Angel? Why would I be talking about Angel? That belongs in another folder, my strange friend...

[Guest Devin]

If someone can honestly explain to me why they made Jackson and Silva stand up, I'll be satisfied. Jackson was showing more action from the mount then 90% of the fighters ever do, and he has to stand. Why? To give Silva a yellow card for not doing anything, then win the fight. Now I certainly won't deny he whooped Rampage's ass once they stood up, I just don't think they ever should have stood up. Give him a yellow card, fine, then have it restarted in the middle with Jackson still on top. I know I sure as hell wasn't bored with their work on the ground, there was never a dulll moment.

 

That and the fact that Yoshida clearly beat Silva, is the only downside to a great card.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Did anyone else LOVE the Pride set??

[the pinjockey 0]

"I also have to throw in that the stage and set up put anything I have ever seen the WWF do to shame. And I marked out like a motherfucker for Sak's Mario entrance. I never thought I would see the day a fighters music started with the old SMB theme. "

 

20 posts up. It is funny, for years thinking, well those guys fight, but the WWF is for entertainment. Then the fighters go and put up a more entertaining atmosphere than the pure entertainers.

[the pinjockey 0]

And, as I watch the tape, that flying camera angle is a thing of beauty.

[AboveAverage484 0]

If someone can honestly explain to me why they made Jackson and Silva stand up, I'll be satisfied. Jackson was showing more action from the mount then 90% of the fighters ever do, and he has to stand. Why? To give Silva a yellow card for not doing anything, then win the fight. Now I certainly won't deny he whooped Rampage's ass once they stood up, I just don't think they ever should have stood up. Give him a yellow card, fine, then have it restarted in the middle with Jackson still on top. I know I sure as hell wasn't bored with their work on the ground, there was never a dulll moment.

 

That and the fact that Yoshida clearly beat Silva, is the only downside to a great card.

 

They were probably afraid that Rampage would just ride out a decision doing what he was doing. They figured it would be more exciting to the fans if they stood them up. Silva was just covering up, and Rampage was active but not doing anything that would incapacitate Silva before the JD.

 

Maybe should have waited a little bit longer, but I can understand the reasoning.

 

And your statement that Yoshida clearly beat Silva is preposterous. Yoshida really didn't put Silva in any truly dangerous submission situations, and Silva himself was extremely close to finishing Yosh with a triangle choke of his own. If Silva's complete ownage in the second round doesn't tell you anything, look at some pictures of Yoshi's face post-fight, courtesy of Wandy's meat-tenderizers.

[Lei Tong 0]

Well, PRIDE can be rather inconsistent with their stand-ups, but regardless, Silva capitilized in pure Chute Boxe style (IE- Silva/ Newton).

 

And nothing can bring me down too much whilst I have the knowledge that Sakuraba proved me wrong.

[the pinjockey 0]

I don't think there was anything wrong with the stand up. It seemed like a call that could go either way. They were both moving and Jackson was chipping away, but I didn't think there was anything really big happening. Silva tried the armbar and when that didn't work just played defense. Jackson was chipping, but it didn't seem like it did anything more than gas him out.

 

I don't understand why Silva got the card, though. Isn't he just doing what many others do, in keeping them close in the guard? I just thought that was considered good defense as opposed to stalling. It wasn't like the 4th or 5th time they when down and he just went into a shell. Continuously doing it, I can see a yellow card, but I didn't think there was anything wrong with what he was doing.