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A serious look at "The Matrix: Revolutions"

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If you've read my Re-Loaded thoughts, keep in mind that it went through several revisions. This time I don't think I need to work so hard to prove my point, so please forgive me if it's a bit more rambling and the language a bit rougher...

 

That aside...

 

WARNING: MASSIVE SPOILERS. THIS IS ONLY FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY SEEN THE MOVIE.

 

 

First of all, I would like to say that all of my comments about the second movie still hold true. I said it might be possible for them to explain away all of the plot holes they opened, but unlikely. They did not. The second movie seems to have sectioned off all possible explanations and conclusions for the first movie that I personally could have accepted. Once so many internal inconsistencies are introduced, nothing else matters to me. Once so much interesting story telling concepts were introduced and then dropped without any exploration, I do not care anymore.

 

As for this movie, one of the first things that happened was the explanation of what happened to the Oracle. The explanation of her change in appearance was flimsy, but given the situation, I completely forgive that. However, instead of saying things that subtly influence the actions of others (“Don’t worry about the vase” *crunch*) she becomes like some fortune telling club. She now answers questions directly, completely forgoing the subtle influence and insight she had before. The warm grandmotherly nature did not seem to be there either, but that, again, is forgivable given the circumstances.

 

What happened with Neo, Smith, and the machines at the end? Smith merged with Neo, therefore the machines had a piece of Smith right there to destroy. Now they were able to find him and delete him, so they did. From that, all of those that Smith corrupted with himself were freed, hence the Oracle and the Sati being alive after. Therefore, Neo did not necessarily die. It is even more dubious that he is dead given the blatant crucifixion imagery. Neo may have already risen from the dead, but we haven’t seen what happens three days after this event. The thought that him being removed from the matrix would kill him no longer applies since we have seen he has a connection to the machines without the physical connection to the matrix, which we saw him in without a connection to his body. So, is he dead? We do not know. Do we care? I certainly don’t.

 

All of the Christ imagery was a bit heavy handed. The crucifix pose, ok. The sign of the cross, ok. The Latin chanting, ok. More than one of those is too much. All three is right over the top. The way the tentacles moved away from him and treated his body with a sort of reverence was purely inexplicable. That is unless he is still alive, and the electric sea urchin machine boss wanted to treat him well. Other than that, what use does his body have? Chuck it in the grinder and feed it to the copper tops in the matrix fields.

 

The fight choreography was noticeably better than in the second movie, which was a poor shell of an imitation of the first movie. It was easily aided in the final sequence by the lightening making it difficult to discern the finer points of motion of the fighters. However, as others have pointed out, the Dragonball style images were ridiculous. Neo looking up over the possibly defeated Smith, standing in the crater, and seeing only more Smiths strikes me as a direct rip off of the DBZ movie “Metal Cooler”. The image with Smith floating in the air, smiling wickedly with the lightening arcing behind him seemed to be a very Vegeta moment. I like Smith, I like Vegeta, I don’t like Neo, and I don’t like Goku, but Smith is not Vegeta, and Neo is not Goku. The visuals of the fight simply did not click for me.

 

It does nothing to aid the movie for Smith to be flying around, or for that matter, the guards in the Merovingian’s club to walk on the ceiling. Programs cannot break the rules of the system. Well, apparently they can, and Morpheus just didn’t know it. I guess that’s just what his character needed, more castration.

 

The battle for the dock was visually stunning. However, I think such visuals would have been better served in a movie version of Mechwarrior, since here they were used in a battle that the audience has been conditioned to understand is pointless. We know that this is a futile and desperate effort against an undefeatable enemy. The only hope they have is for Neo to do something. The audience has been trained from the beginning of the series to know that Neo is the key to everything, therefore this struggle is useless, especially since they had the option of surrendering the dock and defending the bottleneck in the temple. This is even more undercut if we remember that in the first movie, the machines wanted the access codes for Zion to do what they are doing right now. It is internal inconsistencies like this that make me simply not care about the fight. The only thing about this sequence I found myself caring about was to see if Link would make it back to Zee. This took the visually stunning hovership run through the machine corridors from just eye candy to something that I could get emotionally invested in. Once again I found Link’s character to steal the show. He was the most energetic and likeable in the second movie, and he is again here, even though he is not around much.

 

Agent Smith was again a highlight of the movie for me. However, with the bizarre and confused dialogue Hugo Weaving had to work with, I found myself more amused by Bane having been possessed by Smith. His dialogue was more in line with how Smith was in the first movie, speaking of inevitability, and complaining of the stench of his human body. The “Oracle Smith” in the final fight sequence seemed too emotional, and uncertain of himself. It makes sense that with his possession of the insight of the Oracle he would be able to understand his loss after Neo chose to continue to fight, but he was not given much to be able to express that. Either the writing for this segment was terrible, or Hugo Weaving has let me down in a pivotal point. His emotion and creepy evil was tremendous, but that presentation of his character tears away at the presentation of his character in the first movie. I preferred the more low key, arrogant, and insidious Smith (like how Bane was acting) to the raving evil Smith.

 

As for Neo not being able to figure out that Bane was Smith, it did not bother me too much, since it has become painfully obvious that Neo is a total dumbass. If he couldn’t just use all his powers to fight the Merovingian’s goons, then why should he be able to put together the pieces of this child’s puzzle?

 

After this movie, it seems that the Merovingian was put into the movie just about exclusively to piss me off. I hate the character, and he served no purpose to the overall story arc. He and the train man, and his leather club were merely an insubstantial obstacle to overcome without adding anything to, or influencing in any way the actual story line.

 

After watching Trinity’s death sequence, I never want to hear anyone complain about Boromir’s death in Fellowship of the Ring. At least something was sort of happening there. It also didn’t have dialogue that made it sound like something that happened a couple days ago was a couple years ago. “Do you remember what I said…” No, I purged it from my memory.

 

This seemed like the Wachowskis had a second movie in mind, but either got too clever for themselves and put in more bad characters and poor philosophy, or thought they could make more money and threw a bunch of useless crap into it, swelling it into two horrendous abortions of cinema. In the end, Revolutions was less offensive than Reloaded, but no more worthwhile. There was less pompous babbling, but more useless action that I could get no feeling for.

 

So, am I biased against this movie? It did that to itself. I watched it with an open mind, hoping that it could have explained all of the problems in the second movie, and that only the ending sucked, as I had heard that it did. However, nothing of value happened. Those who said one movie can’t be judged since the other hadn’t been seen have no basis for that argument any more. I have seen both. I was right then, and I am still right now. Disagree with me if you wish, but if this is your idea of thought inspiring cinema with breathtaking action, then I pity you. I will be sitting here with my copies of “Ronin”, and “The Professional”, a pair of movies that know what they want to do, and do it.

 

You know, perhaps I should be grateful. They made this movie bad enough that I won’t have to see (heaven forbid) future installments of this series to prove myself right.

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Guest Agent of Oblivion

You liked Link? I thought he was pretty pointless. He just had a generic, "I want to get back to my girlfriend, but I've got my duty," thing which didn't really interest me at all. I mean, why should that stand out? His character was totally secondary.

 

As far as the dock battle being meaningless..so what? They're people, they can choose to fight. Besides, there's the element of "Can they hold out long enough while Neo does what he has to do?"

 

Whacko Smith makes sense to me because he assimilated the oracle, whose only purpose was to offer humans choice, and to unbalance the system. Adding that human element to his machinelike demeanor would throw it off kilter like it did, I'd imagine.

 

Sure, the fight was DBZ from hell, but DBZ is a stupid looking cartoon, while that fight was creative, and visually stunning, in my book. Blowing rain back up into the sky? Sweet.

 

The Merovingian was pointless as shit in this movie. Agreed there.

 

Trinity's death was the death of an important character, hence, the drawn out factor. Didn't bother me.

 

The christly imagery was annoying. It's not like Neo was being persecuted or anything, he might not even be dead.

 

I liked the overall theme about chaos and order that this one had going for it, just as it tied in the bits about perception and reality from the first movie (Neo's matrix powers in the real world), and free will vs. predestination (I choose to fight.)

 

As far as the ending sucking, I think the people who feel that way are fucked in the head. It's the only way the movie could've ended. The humans brought about change by ending the war, the machines kept continuity by keeping the matrix, (which most people accept anyway), so there weren't any unhappy unwashed masses wandering a wasted planet. Zion lives happily ever after, The machines keep existing off of willing humans, Smith and Neo balance their equation, and just about everyone else is dead. I don't see how the movie possibly could've ended better.

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I don't see how the movie possibly could've ended better.

Yep. The ending worked perfectly for me.

 

If Keanu didn't continue to be the worst actor on the planet, I would have really liked this film, rather than being mildly entertained.

 

The criticisms made here are mostly reasonable (although I, and I'd guess millions of others, have never heard or seen Dragonball, so I really don't care if the fight stole from that) but, if you hated Reloaded so much, why even bother to see Revolutions?

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Yeah, the ending was about as good given the horrendous crap that Reloaded got them into. After that movie you had to realize that nothing remotely acceptable (like Neo destroying the Matrix and freeing everyone) was going to happen. The Architect's speech doomed any hope of a feasible ending.

 

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the "Trinity sees the sun" scene. What bullshit. I mean if there actually is sunlight then the machines could have used that a mile higher up instead of enslaving everyone for power. This little scene essentially contradicts the basis of the whole series!

 

I dunno, I sorta enjoyed the movie as its own movie. It's when you put it into perspective that it truly starts to suck. As in not being remotely a satisfying ending to the trilogy.

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I think I could... somehow.... make sense out of this crazy film. Bare with me:

 

Neo is a machine, kinda. He is a human with enhanced genetics, enhanced implants, and a machine programmed mind (probably based on a "The One" template program). That's why, at the end of Revolutions, when his body is being taken away, he is shown as an orange glow. The orange glow is how the machines see each other, and therefore how they see Neo. It is also how Neo sees Smith inside Bane... he is seeing the machine program of Smith inside Bane's mind, and therefore it is an orange glow in the shape of the Smith.

 

But the orange glow isn't the only reason to believe Neo is a machine. Throughout the trilogy other hints are given, such as: "His neural kinetics are way above normal.", "He's a machine.", "Your five predecessors were by design based on a similar predication...", etc.

 

So if Neo is a machine, why was he created (as all machines must have a purpose)? He was created by the Oracle and the Architect to be The One. As the Architect explains to him: "Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the Matrix... Your five predecessors were by design based on a similar predication, a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species, facilitating the function of The One... The function of The One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program."

 

Translated, the Architect is explaining that Neo was designed to be a religious figure to the freed humans, thus causing them to put their faith (hope) in Neo and to rally around him ("...sum of a remainder..."). This helps to ensure that the freed humans are focused on Neo instead of war, and to keep them all together in one place, Zion (which was built by the machines for this purpose also). Neo is a form of control in the real world.

 

And just to make sure that Neo carries out his part of their plan, the machines programmed him with "... a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the [humans]." This, along with his enhanced abilities and the "guidance" of the Oracle, keeps him on the intended course.

 

The Architect also states that "The function of The One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program." This simply means that The One program in Neo's mind is the most important (prime) program in the Matrix, and that now that his mission (purpose) is complete, he must return to the source for deletion (all machines must have a purpose). The phrase "... temporary dissemination..." means that the The One program will be used again in the next version of the Matrix. This is also why Neo's choice of the left door will destroy the Matrix, as there can be only one The One in the Matrix at any time. By staying in the Matrix Neo is preventing it from being reloaded, as a reload will do nothing without another The One for the next version. (In programming terms he is the highest priority task, and he will not release the Matrix program's main semaphore.)

 

OK, so The One is a human with enhanced genetics, enhanced implants, and a machine programmed mind, and was created by the Oracle and the Architect to carry out a specific purpose (form of control in and out of the Matrix) in each iteration of the Matrix. Now let's see how The One fits in with the entire story of the trilogy.

 

As is explained, the Matrix was created by the Architect, at the end of the war with the humans, as a way to control the humans and use them as a power source (I know, hard to believe...). The first Matrix was "... quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime.", while the second Matrix was redesigned "... to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature." Basically Heaven and then Hell. In both cases, however, no conscious choice was given to the humans as to whether or not they wanted to believe in the reality of the Matrix. This caused the majority of humans to reject the Matrix and die ("... whole crops were lost.").

 

To solve this problem the Oracle was created, and realized correctly that the humans needed to be given a choice: "Thus, the answer was stumbled upon by another, an intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche... she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99.9% of all test subjects accepted the program, as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at a near unconscious level." So by giving humans a choice, even at an unconscious level that only 0.1% are ever aware of, they accepted the Matrix.

 

Unfortunately for the machines, however, a majority of the 0.1% who were aware of the choice usually chose the real world over the Matrix. "While this answer functioned, it was obviously fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly, that if left unchecked might threaten the system itself. Ergo, those that refused the program, while a minority, if unchecked, would constitute an escalating probability of disaster." The machines therefore also needed a way to control the 0.1% of the humans who chose the real world over the Matrix, thus Zion and The One were created.

 

As was explained earlier, Zion was built by the machines to ensure that the freed humans would all gather in one place, and The One was created to be their religious figure, helping to distract them from renewed war with the machines. Both forms of control.

 

But even with Zion and The One, the unpredictability of choice ("systemic anomoly") still forced the machines to occasionally "reload" the Matrix. This always occurs when The One reaches the Source, which he can only do after attaining the level of power necessary for him to defeat the Merovingian, obtain the Keymaker, etc. The One program is then temporarily reinserted into the Source (machine mainframe), in preparation for the next iteration of the Matrix. In the process the machines gain the knowledge and experiences of The One, allowing them to better predict the future behavior of the humans, and thus reduce the systemic anomolies.

 

So that is the situation at the start of the sixth iteration of the choice-Matrix. Luckily for the humans, however, the Oracle does not want them to be enslaved in the Matrix any longer, or for the freed humans to be killed. She therefore decides to take a risk and use Neo to bring about a "revolution".

 

In M1 (The Matrix) she meets with The One, Neo, as she has done in the five previous iterations of the Matrix. Normally she simply helps guide The One to his meeting with the Architect. Except this time the Oracle gives Neo a special cookie, which he eats. The cookie isn't actually a cookie, though, it's an upgrade to Neo's program. Since the Oracle created the The One program, she can predict exactly what Neo will do in the future, specifically how he will destroy Smith (from the inside, with some copying from Neo to Smith occuring). She therefore includes in the program upgrade code that will give Smith the ability to replicate himself, and for Neo and Smith to see the future as she does.

 

In M2 (The Matrix Reloaded) Neo plays out his role as The One, meeting with the Architect. However, due to his love for Trinity he chooses the left door, preventing the Matrix from reloading. This was seen in advance by the Oracle, as she has the ability to predict Neo's behavior (as explained above) as well as human behavior in general (due to the nature of her program). She therefore told Trinity that she would fall in love with Neo (in M1), all the while knowing it would eventually cause Neo to choose the left door.

 

In M3 (The Matrix Revolutions) the Oracle's plan comes to fruition. While the machines begin their assualt on Zion (for the sixth time), Smith continues to replicate himself throughout the Matrix. Neo, on the otherhand, is stuck in the train station. Apparently, fulfilling his mission to meet with the Architect unlocks some section of his program that allows Neo to use his enhanced implants to once again become part of the machine collective (perhaps because of the Oracle's upgrade?). He is therefore able to sense and control other machines wirelessly. The first example of this is when he stops the sentinels at the end of M2. Since he is not quite ready to use his new abilities, however, his program gets stuck at the security checkpoint of the Matrix, the train station.

 

In the train station Neo meets with Rama Kandra, his wife, and their daughter Sati. Rama and his wife are both machines from the real world who can jack into the Matrix, like all other machines, and live human lives. Sati is a program created by these two machines out of love, which Rama explains to Neo is not out of the grasp of the machines. They are on their way back into the Matrix to leave Sati with the Oracle for safe keeping, as any program without a purpose is deleted.

 

After being rescued from the train station by Trinity, Morpheus, and Seraph, Neo is helped out of the Matrix using the standard jack. While aboard the Hammer he has another vision of the future, this time of the three power lines leading from the Matrix power station to 01, the machine city (he is able to see the power lines due to his newfound connection to the machine collective). He therefore takes the Logos, along with Trinity, and leaves for 01. Along the way he confronts the stowaway Bane (who has the Smith program inside of him), and is blinded by him. Although blind, Neo is still able to see other machines (orange glow), including the Smith program inside Bane, which he uses to defeat Bane. He also uses his power to control other machines to detonate the bombs fired at the Logos by the 01 defenses.

 

Meanwhile Smith is replicating out of control in the Matrix, and eventually confronts the Oracle after taking over Seraph and Sati. They have a brief conversation in which he calls her "Mom", referring to the fact that she helped to create him (along with the Architect) as well as Neo (part of his program now). The Oracle then tells Smith to "Do what you came here to do.", so he takes over her as well. The newly formed Smith then stands up and laughs hysterically, foreshadowing the events at the end of the movie.

 

Eventually the Logos crashes in 01, but not before Neo gets a top-down view of the orange glowing city with his newfound machine-vision (notice the fractal patterns). Unfortunately Trinity is killed in the crash, and explains to Neo that both of them have been living on borrowed time. Neo since he was ressurected by Trinity, and Trinity since she was ressurected by Neo. Both are meant to die and Trinity is simply happy for the oportunity this time to tell Neo how she feels about him. (But shame on the brothers for killing off Trinity in such a lame way. Couldn't she have at least died trying to save the ship, not just letting it crash!)

 

Neo then leaves the Logos and enters the machine building into which it crashed (the building is seen in the same orange glowing machine-vision). He is then confronted by the Deus Ex Machina, who knows that Neo is the only one who can stop Smith from destroying the Matrix, but still shows hatred toward Neo (due to the fact that he is mostly human). After a show of force, the Deus Ex Machina agrees to peace with the humans in exchange for Neo's promise to destroy Smith. This causes the sentinels to halt their attack on the Zion temple, the last holdout of the remaining humans (the dock and city have already been destroyed).

 

The machines then jack Neo into the Matrix, since he has not yet masterred the ability to do so wirelessly (this theme of Neo having to learn to use his new abilities runs throughout the trilogy). Neo then confronts Smith, who says he has seen the future, and that he (the one particular Smith) is the one that defeats Neo. The other Smiths (all of the other people in the Matrix have now been taken over by him) therefore only watch as the fight begins.

 

After a brutal battle Neo is near defeat, but continues to fight. When asked why he does so, Neo responds "Because I choose to.", echoing the theme in M2 that "Everything begins with choice." (the only way humans achieve true freedom). But even though he delivers a stunning punch to Smith which sends him through the ground, Neo is eventually defeated. Before Smith takes him over he pauses, however, realizing that he has seen this very moment in his visions, and he already knows what he is going to say. "Everything that has a beginning has an end..." he mutters confusedly. This causes Neo to realize that the Oracle still exists somewhere inside of Smith, and that she is partially able to control his thoughts. Taking his cue from the Oracle, Neo freely gives himself to Smith.

 

Thus Neo is defeated, and Smith's original purpose, to defeat The One (which he is never really expected to achieve, which leads to his bad temperment) is accomplished. Smith therefore no longer has a purpose and must be deleted. But since programs marked for deletion must return to the source, how is Smith to be deleted? Simple, the machines send the command through Neo, into Smith, using a burst of energy. This causes all of the Smith clones, and the original Smith, to be deleted, leaving the original inhabitants of the bodies he has taken over (this is a basic function of the agent programs, that they leave their hosts as they found them, with death being the only exception).

 

This then completes another revolution in the Matrix cycle, as The One has reached the Source and has reinserted the prime program (Neo's program, his knowledge and experiences). The Matrix is then reloaded back to it's initial state, the late 20th century.

 

The Oracle then meets with Sati, Seraph, and the Architect in a park outside the city as the sun rises over it. The Architect tells her that she was playing a "very risky game", and she asks him if he will honor the promise of peace. He says that he will, since he is not human (meaning humans do not keep their promises, an insult). This means that those people who unconsciously become aware of the Matrix and choose to leave will be freed, and those living in Zion will not be killed. The war between man and machine is over, or at least suspended.

 

Looking upon the sunrise the Oracle asks Sati if that was her doing, and the girl responds that she did it for Neo (made the sun rise). Apparently Neo's experience with love, which was uploaded from him to the Source, caused the machines to show pity on Sati and give her a purpose instead of deleting her. She is now in control of the sun. Sati also asks the Oracle if they will ever see Neo again, and the Oracle replies that they might, indicating that the The One program will be used again in the future, as it had been for the previous six iterations of the Matrix. M3 therefore ends where M1 began, except that now the humans who become aware of the Matrix will be freed (a decent compromise if you ask me).

 

Whew, done! Hopefully this helped those of you who were confused like me after seeing M3 for the first time. I know that I am not 100% correct in what I've said here (perhaps only 50%), but it's a nice starting point. Maybe others can build on it to make it even more correct and useful.

 

mmm... and couldn't we just say that the sun and it's power may have been rendered useless, not that the sun was destroyed by humans necessarily? yeesh. :)

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I, for one, have waited years for the villan to beat the hero. I don't mean the green goblin putting Toby Maguire to sleep, or Thunderlips fighting Rocky to a draw ( Miss you Hulk). I think that the ending is great. Neo can't beat the villan, after he is defeated the villan, smith, realizes that he found his purpose and is then deleted. ( oh and my friend thought I was insensitive for muttering " Just die already!" after Trinity was impaled)

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It wasn't said that humans destroyed the sun at any point, they scorched the sky, not the sun. Shows it in the Animatrix also. I don't think Earth would have lasted long, nor would the solar system for that matter, if the humans had actually destroyed the sun.

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I, for one, have waited years for the villan to beat the hero. I don't mean the green goblin putting Toby Maguire to sleep, or Thunderlips fighting Rocky to a draw ( Miss you Hulk). I think that the ending is great. Neo can't beat the villan, after he is defeated the villan, smith, realizes that he found his purpose and is then deleted. ( oh and my friend thought I was insensitive for muttering " Just die already!" after Trinity was impaled)

Maybe if they had done a good job with said ending, we wouldn't be complaining.

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The thing is, they didn't have enough guts to go through with the ultra downer ending. They FORCED this bullshit ending to try and seem happy and that's what kills it. The little girl and the Oracle act like all is well, the sun comes up, etc. Nevermind the fact that the Architect is still in power, the Matrix hierarchy scarcely changes, and all the human threats are neutered in Zion hoping the machines don't kill them.

 

Compare this to T3 for example. In that film we have:

 

Spoiler (Highlight to Read):

Arnold does kill the Terminatrix chick, while of course dying himself. But all the attempts to stave off Judgement Day were futile and the machines do indeed rise like the title says. It was a very cynical and downbeat ending and was played as such. No bullshit involving John Connor and the chick watching the sun rise.

 

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Guest Agent of Oblivion

Did they ever shoot a "happy" ending to that movie, like they did with T2?

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Guest Agent of Oblivion

Well, I didn't really think T2 had a very happy ending either, but they still did one there.

 

Perhaps they might've shot one that's REALLY optimistic and hopeful.

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Guest Riots bloodlust

I find it interesting that people are bringing up T3. I actually saw that and at the time I thought it was by far a better sequel than The Matrix Re-Loaded. I shall attempt to finish it and post it up here sometime in the relatively near future.

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I have a question...why is it that Agent Smith is enough of a threat to the machines that they're willing to grant peace to humans to stop him?

 

Like, obviously the Matrix functioned with him in it...yeah, it may have been all fucked up and not it's original design, but it still worked in the sense that the machines (evidently) still had power.

 

So why was he such a problem for them?

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Here's one point I'll actually defend the movie on. Neo said, and the electic sea urchin machine king thing acknowledged to a certian extent, that they can't control Smith anymore. We've seen him copy himself within the matrix, and even get himself out of the matrix in a human's body. With that kind of power, there's no telling what sort of damage he can do to the designs of the machines. They didn't demonstrate that he would ever have done anything to damage the machines, but it seems clear that he was capable of doing whatever damage he wanted, perhaps my making the entire machine world copies of himself. He could have copied the Merovingian and gained access to the whole of the machine world with relative ease.

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