Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Hey, I thought that was actually a GOOD Goldberg match....made him ended up looking very powerful, which is what his character is. Goldberg has been busting his ass since he showed up, he's just finally getting the pops and support in recognition of it. Meltz - They couldn't have done more for Goldberg. On one leg, he laid out Flair, Orton, and Batista with HHH's sledge hammer, then used the spear and jackhammer to pin HHH after throwing the sledge hammer out. It was as close to perfectly booked as you can get in trying to get Goldberg over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 at least this wasn't the worst PPV of the year So you still watch......why? because i've been a fan for over 10 years...and it's addicting... I've tried to just "not watch" ...and it doesn't work addictive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 yeah... you don't mess with a PPV where a gun turret is part of the decor... I think there was also half of a bus sticking out of the set. Or maybe that was Rumble 00... WWE has had some cool sets. Gotta love the KotR Chair of the Gods, too. rr00 was a Taxi Cab. Armageddon 99 was the best no QUESTION with the tanks and Gun Turret... Damn--okay, it was a yellow vehicle at least. I forget about the tanks at Armageddon, though. I actually prefer that to the flames shooting up last year. It was neat that they were used in a match (HHH lighting the 2x4), but compared to the 1999 set, it seemed so barren and lifeless. Imagine If Taker bumped his head going into the casket at the end and was knocked out cold and they didn't know it and closed the lid and rolled it out...expecting Taker to be under the ring and actually set Taker on fire... Eh--I think Taker would have to take one hell of a shot to be knocked out cold. A little bump to his head wouldn't do it, I don't think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Hey, I thought that was actually a GOOD Goldberg match....made him ended up looking very powerful, which is what his character is. Goldberg has been busting his ass since he showed up, he's just finally getting the pops and support in recognition of it. Meltz - They couldn't have done more for Goldberg. On one leg, he laid out Flair, Orton, and Batista with HHH's sledge hammer, then used the spear and jackhammer to pin HHH after throwing the sledge hammer out. It was as close to perfectly booked as you can get in trying to get Goldberg over. WELL...EC did a damn good job of doing it until HHH reared his ugly politics... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Hey, I thought that was actually a GOOD Goldberg match....made him ended up looking very powerful, which is what his character is. Goldberg has been busting his ass since he showed up, he's just finally getting the pops and support in recognition of it. Meltz - They couldn't have done more for Goldberg. On one leg, he laid out Flair, Orton, and Batista with HHH's sledge hammer, then used the spear and jackhammer to pin HHH after throwing the sledge hammer out. It was as close to perfectly booked as you can get in trying to get Goldberg over. Exactly. This was the match of the night, ***3/4 from me. All of that for its entertainment value and a slight bit of wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted November 17, 2003 I'm assuming that Brock will be traded for Kane somewhere down the road to set up Goldberg vs. Brock Kane vs. Undertaker for Wrestlemania Brock will be laying down to Benoit right? RIGHT? RIGHT! No, they want to keep Brock strong for that match and he tapped tonight. Benoit's going to be decimated at the PPV they end up butting heads at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt Angle Mark 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 I'm assuming that Brock will be traded for Kane somewhere down the road to set up Goldberg vs. Brock Kane vs. Undertaker for Wrestlemania Brock will be laying down to Benoit right? RIGHT? RIGHT! Right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Hey, I thought that was actually a GOOD Goldberg match....made him ended up looking very powerful, which is what his character is. Goldberg has been busting his ass since he showed up, he's just finally getting the pops and support in recognition of it. Meltz - They couldn't have done more for Goldberg. On one leg, he laid out Flair, Orton, and Batista with HHH's sledge hammer, then used the spear and jackhammer to pin HHH after throwing the sledge hammer out. It was as close to perfectly booked as you can get in trying to get Goldberg over. WELL...EC did a damn good job of doing it until HHH reared his ugly politics... What did Triple H do wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted November 17, 2003 yeah... you don't mess with a PPV where a gun turret is part of the decor... I think there was also half of a bus sticking out of the set. Or maybe that was Rumble 00... WWE has had some cool sets. Gotta love the KotR Chair of the Gods, too. rr00 was a Taxi Cab. Armageddon 99 was the best no QUESTION with the tanks and Gun Turret... Damn--okay, it was a yellow vehicle at least. I forget about the tanks at Armageddon, though. I actually prefer that to the flames shooting up last year. It was neat that they were used in a match (HHH lighting the 2x4), but compared to the 1999 set, it seemed so barren and lifeless. Imagine If Taker bumped his head going into the casket at the end and was knocked out cold and they didn't know it and closed the lid and rolled it out...expecting Taker to be under the ring and actually set Taker on fire... Eh--I think Taker would have to take one hell of a shot to be knocked out cold. A little bump to his head wouldn't do it, I don't think. You could EASILY knock yourself out falling backwards...Which is why it was padded......Too bad for shawn they didn't pad the OUTSIDE of the casket... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Decent show. The 1st match while it shouldn't be the first match, sets up Benoit/Brock, and Show/Cena. Angle isn't needed for a while b/c of the injury. Shane ruined Kane. Jericho, the guy who has a five month issue with Austin gets eliminated in the name of the heatless Suckbag and Batista. Figures. And Vince did in his match what Shane should have done-nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Hey, I thought that was actually a GOOD Goldberg match....made him ended up looking very powerful, which is what his character is. Goldberg has been busting his ass since he showed up, he's just finally getting the pops and support in recognition of it. Meltz - They couldn't have done more for Goldberg. On one leg, he laid out Flair, Orton, and Batista with HHH's sledge hammer, then used the spear and jackhammer to pin HHH after throwing the sledge hammer out. It was as close to perfectly booked as you can get in trying to get Goldberg over. WELL...EC did a damn good job of doing it until HHH reared his ugly politics... What did Triple H do wrong? Uh...GO OVER? Squash the entire momentum Goldberg had going into that match along with after his Terminator like performence laying out the entire field...with a rinky dinky sledgehammer shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Who do I speak to about refunds? I enjoyed the RAW 10-man tag but that was it. Everything else was too rushed or just too messy. It's almost painful to watch some of these guys out there because they're either way too green (Morgan, Jones) or just too brittle (HHH, Vince). Those trunks of HHH's are so damn ghey, but hey, whatever keeps him from pulling another hammy when he enters the ring. As for HHH having workrate better than 2/3 of the guys in the opening match, huh? Morgan and Jones are awful, but everyone else is just mediocre and up. A-Train sucks, but he's not terrible, Show played little part in the match, and Lesnar's all right. On the other end, Angle, Benoit, and Cena are all good, while Bradshaw at least garners a reaction from the crowd when he hits certain spots. And all the hate for Hardcore should stop, since he's nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be. They're just judging him on his personality. Starting the show out with the 10-man would've been fine, but everything was just so rushed that it made most of the guys look bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Decent show. The 1st match while it shouldn't be the first match, sets up Benoit/Brock, and Show/Cena. Angle isn't needed for a while b/c of the injury. Shane ruined Kane. Jericho, the guy who has a five month issue with Austin gets eliminated in the name of the heatless Suckbag and Batista. Figures. And Vince did in his match what Shane should have done-nothing. From what I heard, Shane got some flashy offense but was no-sold constantly by Kane. THAT'S how to build a monster. It's more impressive to pop right back up from a flying elbow then to beat up the guy before he can do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Decent show. The 1st match while it shouldn't be the first match, sets up Benoit/Brock, and Show/Cena. Angle isn't needed for a while b/c of the injury. Shane ruined Kane. Jericho, the guy who has a five month issue with Austin gets eliminated in the name of the heatless Suckbag and Batista. Figures. And Vince did in his match what Shane should have done-nothing. Well...To be fair...Jericho is busy trying to tap Trish's ass... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 I actually really, really enjoyed this PPV tonight, top to bottom. There was some bad, obviously, but overall I really loved it. My only complaint is with the ending of Goldberg/HHH. I was so into the match, I was pumped, I was marking out like a bitch, and then the pin came. It went one, TWO.......and I don't know if I blinked or what, but I didn't even see the ref's hand go down for three, HHH raised his shoulder, and then after a pause, the bell rings and Goldberg's music starts. I totally was lost and it pissed me off. Other than that, great show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Nuts. Goldberg won. Cool. However, since HHH wasn't around for most of the feud, and it didn't lead to a title switch despite Goldie being injured, what was the point? They just needed a placeholder feud due to the lack of a strong heel to challenge? This means Kane/Goldberg at Rumble, vs. a member of Evolution, or what? I imagine The Deadman gimmick will return in that Goldy/Kane match-up as well. If it does happen. Although he couldn't possibly have time to regrow the hair, so it may be an all-new Dead Man look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Downhome...your avatar is freaking me out... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CronoT Report post Posted November 17, 2003 After reading this, I'm DAMN glad I didn't order SS after all. Austin got dicked, and now we get the return of Psycho Eric, the "Kid Who Found His Dad's Gun." At least Goldberg retained. Don't get me wrong. I KNOW there are other people who deserve that title more than Bill. But, the longer they keep it away from Lvesque, the happier I'll be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Taker already grew his hair out enough...Give him 9 weeks without him touching it...He can have a decent length size. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Without the long black hair...he'd look really silly... the hair was awesome over the eyes... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kardo 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 I just love how Goldberg was put over by JR and the King too. Those jabs were not so subtle this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Repo Man jr 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 I think the best bit was Cena's FU. I liked last months show better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Report post Posted November 17, 2003 I can't believe Triple H is getting flack for his performance. You are all seriosuly fucked in the head. The guy laid down for Goldberg, what else do you want? They laid out the match PERFECTLY to accomodate GOLDBERG, hwo can anyone say Triple H was being selfish? He was simply following the fucking storyline by annihilating Goldberg for the whole match. Remember, Goldberg had a broken fucking ankle...of course he;'d get dominated. And I missed the Smackdown 10 man tag, but it seemed pretty blah to me from the onset. RAW is totally the number one show by heads and shoulders. Smackdown is no further now then when they were a year ago. Even Eddie Guerrero seems boring to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Downhome...your avatar is freaking me out... Good. Bwahahahahahahahaha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted November 17, 2003 I can't believe Triple H is getting flack for his performance. You are all seriosuly fucked in the head. The guy laid down for Goldberg, what else do you want? They laid out the match PERFECTLY to accomodate GOLDBERG, hwo can anyone say Triple H was being selfish? He was simply following the fucking storyline by annihilating Goldberg for the whole match. Remember, Goldberg had a broken fucking ankle...of course he;'d get dominated. And I missed the Smackdown 10 man tag, but it seemed pretty blah to me from the onset. RAW is totally the number one show by heads and shoulders. Smackdown is no further now then when they were a year ago. Even Eddie Guerrero seems boring to me. What flack? All people have said is "Did HHH put his shoulders up"... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 I can't believe Triple H is getting flack for his performance. You are all seriosuly fucked in the head. The guy laid down for Goldberg, what else do you want? They laid out the match PERFECTLY to accomodate GOLDBERG, hwo can anyone say Triple H was being selfish? He was simply following the fucking storyline by annihilating Goldberg for the whole match. Remember, Goldberg had a broken fucking ankle...of course he;'d get dominated. For quite possibly the first time ever, I agree with you 100%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CronoT Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Decent show. The 1st match while it shouldn't be the first match, sets up Benoit/Brock, and Show/Cena. Angle isn't needed for a while b/c of the injury. Shane ruined Kane. Jericho, the guy who has a five month issue with Austin gets eliminated in the name of the heatless Suckbag and Batista. Figures. And Vince did in his match what Shane should have done-nothing. Well...To be fair...Jericho is busy trying to tap Trish's ass... Who wouldn't want to tap that ass? Although I'd like to get some Molly Ass, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 If you didn't see the PPV tonight, I suggest you order the replay. 3 full hours of pure action. The violence was off the charts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Decent show. The 1st match while it shouldn't be the first match, sets up Benoit/Brock, and Show/Cena. Angle isn't needed for a while b/c of the injury. Shane ruined Kane. Jericho, the guy who has a five month issue with Austin gets eliminated in the name of the heatless Suckbag and Batista. Figures. And Vince did in his match what Shane should have done-nothing. From what I heard, Shane got some flashy offense but was no-sold constantly by Kane. THAT'S how to build a monster. It's more impressive to pop right back up from a flying elbow then to beat up the guy before he can do it. No-selling? Good. However, shouldn't Kane have been beating the crap out of Shane for an extended period of time? You gotta put the face in peril, you know...then each additional attack makes you more worried. However, no-selling everything then doing a fairly quick finish seems kinda anti-climactic. Just my opinion... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 I will bust out my Mickey Mouse impression and do Foley's rant about the fans screaming Austin's name while he was trapped in the dumpster... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
