Hate to say I told you so...

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

The RAW tag, if all clicked, should have reached ***. With the extra effort given, it deserved ****.

 

The surprising ending came with a large notion of the fans on this board prediciting a Team Austin win. Then, when it came to 3-1, Team Bischoff seemed to be favored. Austin's stunner led believe of Michaels going over Orton, and then Batista's final run in ended it in the opposite way. Check the thread/predicitons, I did. But then again I post with prior knowledge.

[HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0]

So Survior Series was better then any ROH show? Hmmm....

[Tawren 0]

So Survior Series was better then any ROH show? Hmmm....

Dude, RoH is good, so it is obviously overrated because people like it, so we all need to hate it. RoH sucks! It sucks I tell you!

[tpww7 0]

So..5 people on here say that Austin's team will win, and it's surprisng that they dont? First 5 people I read picked Bisch's team.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

But if you're gonna bash me for liking it, I'll withold my comments about ROH, and their great non-wrestler spot monkeys, ex-ECW never-were's, overrated (although some are quite decent...) atches and ridiculous champion.

You are my new god. (throws out pictures of Jesus)

Jesus was your god?

So there are pictures of God all of a sudden?

 

I had to use what I could work with here damn it.

 

 

 

And to be FAIR, I heard of some good RoH shows, but I hate how people try comparing it to WWE when it's not even close.

[tpww7 0]

ROH is so bad that WWE is running a building that ROH ran in July..Yes, they are doing SOO bad.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

I DO NOT HATE RING OF HONOR.

 

However, if you're going to pick n piss-moan over little things in the WWE, then I'll do the same for the promotion you enjoy.

 

End the stupid RoH crap, man. It's too easy a target. And admittingly, so had WWE's product of late. I personally dug this match tonight.

 

Star ratings are always subjective.

 

Personally, I give stuff like Razor/HBK from WM10 about ***...but the majority see it as a "classic" and give it *****. That's cool.

 

It's all a matter of opinion, brother. Yours seems to be a negative one on the "major" league.

 

And that's fair. But if you're gonna bash HBK a and be ridiculous and say "HE DID A SUPERKICK! WOW!" then I'll just say "SAMOA JOE ATE ANOTHER CHEESEBURGER! WOW!"

 

And where will that get us?

[HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0]

But if you're gonna bash me for liking it, I'll withold my comments about ROH, and their great non-wrestler spot monkeys, ex-ECW never-were's, overrated (although some are quite decent...) atches and ridiculous champion.

You are my new god. (throws out pictures of Jesus)

Jesus was your god?

So there are pictures of God all of a sudden?

 

I had to use what I could work with here damn it.

 

 

 

And to be FAIR, I heard of some good RoH shows, but I hate how people try comparing it to WWE when it's not even close.

Yeah, ROH knows how to use talent.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

ROH is so bad that WWE is running a building that ROH ran in July..Yes, they are doing SOO bad.

Are you fucking serious?!!?

 

Damn I didn't realize how bad they are doing in the House show department.

[tpww7 0]

Ahh..the Samoa Joe is fat..he cant be good argument!

 

Watch a fucking match of his...not from MLW.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Dude, there was a whole thread on predictions, plus WEEKS of stuff in the RAW Threads bitching about how "Team Bischoff...Do They Have ANY Chance?", plus a thread actually CALLED "Team Bischoff...Do They Have ANY Chance?"

 

Add a great match and drama and I like.

 

I'm just waiting for the "MARK HENRY IS HOLDING BOOKER T DOWN!" "HE DIDN'T MAKE BOOKER LOOK CREDIBLE!" threads any minute now.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

Ahh..the Samoa Joe is fat..he cant be good argument!

 

Watch a fucking match of his...not from MLW.

Samoa Joe may be a decent worker but can HE DANCE like WWEs resident fat ass Samoan?

[tpww7 0]

Predictions thread clearly shows Team Bisch was favorite....

[tpww7 0]

Ahh..the Samoa Joe is fat..he cant be good argument!

 

Watch a fucking match of his...not from MLW.

Samoa Joe may be a decent worker but can HE DANCE like WWEs resident fat ass Samoan?

You deserve to get Bootscraped.

 

OLAY!!

[HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0]

Dude, it may SAY Team Bish winning, but I KNOW that they all want Austin to win. THATS WHAT MADE THE MATCH SO GOOD! THE DRAMA, DUDE, THE DRAMA!

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

"RoH knows how to use talent"...

 

Ah, watchin' SS...

 

Kane was established as a monster, backed into, put through a glass plate, Van-Terminatored from the top of an ambulance, etc...and just LAUGHED at the end of the match after destroying Kane. Plus he was put over during the Buried Alive match.

 

Kane's no Benoit...but he's decent.

 

Speaking of Benoit, uh, he survived and made the WWE Champion tap out.

 

Cena had a breakthrough performance tonight.

 

The hosses were disposed of by the talent, by submissions and wrestling (Angle, Benoit, Cena).

 

Michaels, still one of the most polished workers in the WWE, told a compelling story, making the very-talented Jericho and somewhat-talented Christian look good by nearly MAIMING him.

 

Molly Holly, the best women's wrestler in the company, defeated the untalented, more over wrestler.

 

HORRIBLE MISUSE OF TALENT!

 

If only Corino was there to cut his head and get punched for 20 minutes...that'd get ****.

[HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0]

Ahh..the Samoa Joe is fat..he cant be good argument!

 

Watch a fucking match of his...not from MLW.

Samoa Joe may be a decent worker but can HE DANCE like WWEs resident fat ass Samoan?

You deserve to get Bootscraped.

 

OLAY!!

Oh, dude, you suck.

[HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0]

Kane was established as a monster, backed into, put through a glass plate, Van-Terminatored from the top of an ambulance, etc...and just LAUGHED at the end of the match after destroying Kane. Plus he was put over during the Buried Alive match.

So, when people were watch SS, they thought Kane was a monster....when? When Shane was beating the fuck out of him for the first half of the match? Or how about on Raw, when he can sit down and eat dinner with his ARCH NEMESIS~! Or how about last month, when we all found out that Kane is capable of sitting up and moving while Shane falls 40 feet?

[Guest Ray]

It's all a matter of opinion, brother.

Some opinions are wrong...just sayin'.

[tpww7 0]

Kane got the shit beat out of him for the first half of the match by a non-wrestler...thats always good. And the feud has been downright horrible...Cena had a breakthrough night? All he did was an F-U to Big Show. The Corino comment doesent even deserve distinction.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

By the way, I didn't say Samoa Joe wasn't any good "just because he's fat".

 

I just laughed at the notion of he being champion of a promotion that should be pushing the most credible-looking of all champions to suvive.

 

He's eons better than 'kishi...whoever said that.

[tpww7 0]

The promotion is about respect, honor and wrestling, all of which Samoa Joe uphelds very well, that makes a good champion to me. And his reign has been dominant, but not HHH dominant by burying all opponetts.

[HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0]

Dude, Samoa Joe is credible. I'd like to know how he isn't.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

It's not like Kane and Shane locked up and then Shane used his brute strength to overpower him.

 

Did you people even watch the damn show?

 

AT ALL?

 

Shane lunged and Kane went over the roped, SICKLY dropping right on top of his head. Shane then cracked him 3 times with TV monitors, broke down his legs with cane-shots...

 

It made sense.

 

Kane was beaten down to the best of Shane's abilities.

 

He then proceeded to shrug it off and destroy Shane, repeatedly throwing/darting him into/slaming his head into the ambulance.

 

And easily throwing him into the ambulance...then just laughing at the whole match.

 

He then buried The Undertaker, dominating him after blowing him out of the truck.

 

But I guess that's only a "mild" push. And stop bitching about "the buildup" sucking. My argument has been about tonight's show...learn to read.

 

Cena, gave a freestyle which cemented his face turn, and then survived Team Hoss, including the WWE Champion. He worked hard, got tremendous heat, and F-U'd The Big Show.

 

Not bad for a first night as a face.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Perhaps I'm harsh...I suppose he's "Dusty" credible for what the promotion is, an independent. That is NOT a negative comment, btw. The independent part, anyway.

 

Could we get back to the thread...thanks...it was a tremendous show, save for some dull moments in the final 2 bouts.

[tpww7 0]

Kane was beaten down to the best of Shane's abilities.

 

 

 

But I guess that's only a "mild" push. And stop bitching about "the buildup" sucking. My argument has been about tonight's show...learn to read.

 

Cena, gave a freestyle which cemented his face turn, and then survived Team Hoss, including the WWE Champion. He worked hard, got tremendous heat, and F-U'd The Big Show.

 

Not bad for a first night as a face.

So...you say the story counts alot in a match. The buildup adds to the story..therefore it DOES pertain to the show. And Cena got tremendous heat..the heat that you cant decide is important or not important..make up your mind.

[El Psycho Diablo 0]

After all the buildup put into Brock last year, they're making him Chris Jericho V2 this year. Yay.

[HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0]

Shane lunged and Kane went over the roped, SICKLY dropping right on top of his head. Shane then cracked him 3 times with TV monitors, broke down his legs with cane-shots...

 

It made sense.

 

Kane was beaten down to the best of Shane's abilities.

 

He then proceeded to shrug it off and destroy Shane, repeatedly throwing/darting him into/slaming his head into the ambulance.

The thing is, if they really wanted Kane to be a monster, then Shane should never gotten in any offense. Shane/Kane should have been exactly what Raven/James Mitchel was from a few weeks ago on TNA. Raven destroying Mitchel until he was covered in blood, and easily beating him. From start to finish.

[Michrome 0]

And to be FAIR, I heard of some good RoH shows, but I hate how people try comparing it to WWE when it's not even close.

 

What do you mean by close? If you mean in terms of revenue and TV, then sure, they're not even remotely close.

 

If you are speaking in terms of consistently putting out good shows, having great wrestling matches, and good feuds...RoH is way ahead of the WWE right now.

 

Why don't you try actually watching the damn product before you troll.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

tpww7, I love how you try to make my intelligent arguments look like they contradict themselves by taking bits and pieces from different arguments and combining them.

 

The argument about Cena was how he was made to look like a star. The heat added to solidifying his night. His work in the match was decent, as well. Crowd heat does impact a match, by making it SEEM better...it doesn't necessarily MAKE it better.

 

As for Kane/Shane, and you saying I said "story counts for a match"....yes, I did. Buildup can add, but it doesn't subtract.

 

BUILDUP FOR A MATCH and the STORY OF THE MATCH are two different things. Stop acting like I think they're the same.

 

But then again, with your indies, the BUILDUP and STORY are usually in the same night/angle...so I can see your perspective.

 

Shane/Kane had shitty buildup. So I thought it'd suck. It wasn't super...but I think the STORY IN THE MATCH was good. So I liked it. Kane looked good. A vulnerable guy that absorbs a shirtload of punishment and laughs it off.