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Not that kind of PC RPG, sure, but is this not the same developer who made a ton of PC RPGs? There's more than one type....again, I'm not knowledgable on the subject since I've never played PC games in my life, but I clearly remember reading that the game was developed by famous PC RPG developers and the game felt like a PC RPG- and that's what turned me off on the game and made me decide not to bother with it when I had many other games I already wanted to play. So blame it on that reviewer I guess. /shrug

 

If what you're saying is true, I probably will rent it myself the next time there's nothing new out that I want to play, just so I can say I tried it, but I can tell you already that the Star Wars licsense is already a huge turn-off. I've always found the entire universe to be very hokey and uncool.

The game doesn't feel like a typical PC RPG at all. I don't like most PC RPGs either (I loathe Morrowind, Diablo and am not a big fan of Baldur's Gate), but KOTOR is really awesome and very easy to get into even when you normally play japanese RPGs. If you don't like the Star Wars Universe you should take a look at the developer's next title Jade Empire, which will come out on XBOX as well and looks very promising:

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The reason that KOTR has that feel is because it is entirely based off the Star Wars D20 Tabletop Roleyplaying game. I knew what every power did and how everything worked immediately because I play the d20 game.

[Guest Kamui]

Jade Empire looks pretty cool, I'll probably give that a try when it comes out. Thanks IBM.

 

-Duo

[Guest MikeSC]

So the Japanese have weird tastes and --- let's not forget this --- a possible bias AGAINST NON-JAPANESE SYSTEMS. It's not a stretch to assume this.

 

The Japanese buy friggin' TRAIN SIMULATORS, the single more boring genre of game I've ever tried in my life (I haven't tried date sims, thank God). The Japanese are as fond of unmitigated crap as Americans are.

 

What's that, self? Another moron missed the entire point of the Japanese example? Color me surprised!

Ah, a "moron"?

 

Perhaps if you could express yourself better, you wouldn't get criticized.

 

Don't bitch because YOU write poorly and make crappy points.

So be it. KOTOR is better than any game I've played on GC. Heck, I'm PRAYING for GC to actually develop good games as the ONLY one out there I think that looks good is F-Zero. I've never liked the Mario Kart games whatsoever.

 

I haven't played KOTOR, so I can't comment, but holy fuck....comparing a PC-style RPG to a futuristic racing game and a KART RACING games is pretty stupid, and proves nothing.

The comparison is potentially GOOD games.

 

I suppose I can write more monosyllabically for you.

Thing is, Morrowind and KOTOR are out and we KNOW that they are good. The GC has "potentially" good games --- but potential means squat.

 

No, see, this is something we call "opinion". I find Morrowind to be another boring piece of generic PC RPG tripe, and KOTOR doesn't interest me in the slightest.

So be it.

 

Keep in mind that in America, apparently, you are very much in the minority.

Meanwhile, Baiten Kaitos is developed by the same people who made one of my favorite RPGs (Xenosaga). Does past experience mean squat too?

Xenosaga sucked the meat missile. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of movies masquerading as games. XS was about as non-interactive as a title could possibly hope to be.

Survival horror? The genre is dead and drawing flies at this point. And what action-adventure games does GC have that other consoles don't?

 

If anything can revive it, Resident Evil 4 can. Meanwhile, Eternal Darkness was HORRIBLY underrated, one of my all-time favorite games. And gee, that was a Nintendo game. OMG THEY'RE SO KIDDY~!!!

You have a habit of refuting points not made by me?

And what action-adventure games do Nintendo have that other consoles don't? Gee, let's try LoZ: Wind Waker, Super Mario Sunshine, Metroid Prime, and the Sonic Adventure games (granted, Dreamcast has these, but still, no current generation) and that's just off the top of my head. Name any one action-adventure game on X-Box that can even come CLOSE to matching the quality of these games, and I'm sure you'll come up with a blank. Which is fine, because as my original point was, this is a genre the Cube excells in that the X-Box doesn't, just like you can list a million great FPSes that top anything the Cube has in the genre. See?

Let's go in order:

Mario Sunshine --- overrated crap.

Zelda --- eh. Didn't do much for me.

Metroid Prime --- WAY too much exploration, way too little action.

Sonic Adventure? Please tell me you're kidding.

 

Any action titles on X-Box that approach it? Well, Voodoo Vince owns Sonic.

 

So be it. I, as a rule, don't like racing games --- but NFS: Underground is one sweet title.

 

NFS Underground is available on all three systems, and the PS2 version is suprerior to the X-Box and Gamecube versions because of the online play anyway.

Irrelevant. Seems to be a recurrent theme.

Does GC have good fighters? The controller is not terribly good for fighters.

 

Neither is the X-Box's, in my opinion, but I use fighting sticks anyway so I don't care. And as I said earlier, the two systems are even when it comes to fighters- neither one touches the PS2 anyway, though.

Then why mention it?

X-Box has better party games? Honestly, Mario Party has been horrible since its onset. Absolutely unplayable.

 

Oh man, I've go to go round up everyone I've ever played Mario Party with since the first game came out for the N64 and let them all know that all the fun we had WASN'T REAL, because some guy on a message board said it was absolutley unplayable! Not just unplayable, mind you, but ABSOLUTLEY UNPLAYABLE!

People like crap. Not my fault.

Fuzion Frenzy --- which sucks

 

The first accurate thing you've said in this entire post!

One up on you thus far. GO ME!

--- is a better title.

 

Damn, guess you couldn't get a streak going on that accurate statement thing.

More of a criticism of just how unspeakably bad the Mario Party games are.

GC has them with Smash Bros. Melee --- but since there are so few GC titles out there, XB is not in bad shape.

 

Name one party game for the X-Box that doesn't suck. Hint: There aren't any. So, uh, that kinda means the Cube excells in that genre, smart guy. What that has to do with the amount of titles on either system is beyond me.

All of GC's party games suck hard as well.

Then you missed out on some darned good titles.

 

No, because I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE GENRES THESE TITLES ARE BEING RELEASED FOR.

Doth thou wanteth a cookie?

God. How many times do I have to repeat myself to people who can't seem to figure out what these posts are saying? I'M NOT SAYING THE X-BOX IS A HORRIBLE SYSTEM. The point I was trying to make is that both the X-Box and the Gamecube have genres they excell in and genres they absolutley suck in- the PS2 is the only truely well-rounded system. And then, I said that I personally prefer the Gamecube because the genres they excell in are the ones I like.

 

NOT because Japan doesn't like it (I used this example to back up my statement of the X-Box being weak in key genres- because these are the genres that appeal to Japanese gamers, and the system sells so horribly over there), NOT because the system is horrible, etc., etc.

And WE pointed out --- since you're a bit slow on the uptake --- that XBox is doing poorly in Japan not because it lacks the great genres but because it is not made by Japan.

 

Simply refuting your weak attempt at logic.

I'll be repeating myself until THE END OF TIME~!!! at this rate.

You can stop now as nobody really cares.

-=Mike

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Okay, while Mike is taking the flaming route, I want to speak about how I, as a person who's used to Japanese RPGs and hasn't played a PC RPG in his life outside of a one MMORPG that I never could really understand, enjoyed KOTOR and how you can too:

 

Not that kind of PC RPG, sure, but is this not the same developer who made a ton of PC RPGs? There's more than one type....again, I'm not knowledgable on the subject since I've never played PC games in my life, but I clearly remember reading that the game was developed by famous PC RPG developers

Yes, they make Baldur's Gate, and I've never played one of those game and still don't want to. But this game just seems to work well on a console. You're using one stick to move, one stick to swivel the camera, and the pad to choose options on the little window at the bottom.

 

You can learn battle skills such as various critical hits and use those when you feel it's appropriate. The Jedi characters can learn spells you choose to learn in what order. You need to learn Cure1 before you learn Cure2 and Cure3 for example (they don't call them that, but I'm using those terms to help you adjust better.)

 

Also, the story isn't completely on rails as to what you choose to do. You know that you can be a good guy or a bad guy and the story of the game changes depending on that, but you can also go with melee fighters, people who fire guns behind you, etc.

 

Instead of a Final Fantasy style menu with Attack, Item, Magic, etc you move the pad left and right through columns. Attack, special ability (such as critical hits), spells (if any), grenades and mines (useful for wiping out large groups) and Items such as health items, temporary stat boosters, etc. Up and down moves you through the items in these columns. In this sense, you can battle away while reaching for a health pack at the same time. You can even pause the action and queue commands, like cast lightning on this guy, use a health pack, then throw a grenade on this guy, then attack him.

 

Yes, if you go down into the nuts and bolts of it there's a Dungeons & Dragons ruleset at work, and somewhere in the options you can even see the technical readouts of the rolls and everything. But I hate D&D games and as long as you don't want to go into the nitty gritty of that, you don't have to. All you have to do is look at a gun and see it's 18-21 firepower is better than this guns 12-16, and switch.

 

If what you're saying is true, I probably will rent it myself the next time there's nothing new out that I want to play, just so I can say I tried it, but I can tell you already that the Star Wars licsense is already a huge turn-off. I've always found the entire universe to be very hokey and uncool.

 

Again, it's really early in the universe (there's plenty of people using actual steel swords for instance) so really all that exists are Good Jedi, Bad Jedi, and the alien breeds (which are pretty rare outside of a planet or two.)

 

Do at least get to another planet before you decide to judge the game though. The first few hours are on a cliche'd Midgar style city (you know, rich people live on top, poor people live down below in the filth and disease) and most of your comrades are good guys who will chew you out if you try to go down the dark path. Once you get out of there and your party expands a bit, you can do a lot more freeform and the action is less directly linear.

[Guest Kamui]

Ah, a "moron"?

 

Perhaps if you could express yourself better, you wouldn't get criticized.

 

Don't bitch because YOU write poorly and make crappy points.

 

My points make perfect sense- I'm sorry that YOU can't seem to understand them.

 

Wait, no I'm not.

 

 

The comparison is potentially GOOD games.

 

I suppose I can write more monosyllabically for you

 

How is it potientally good games when the games are already out? And I'm sorry you still don't get that a futuristic racing game and a PC-style RPG are good for ENTIRLEY DIFFERENT REASONS, so it makes no sense to compare them.

 

 

So be it.

 

Keep in mind that in America, apparently, you are very much in the minority.

 

REALLY?!? I never knew that. Now that I know everyone else isn't exactly the same as me, I'll have to give up the genres I've been playing for the majority of my life for walking around aimlessly swinging my sword in the air! YEAH, THAT'S THE TICKET!

 

You're a deluded idiot.

 

 

Xenosaga sucked the meat missile. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of movies masquerading as games. XS was about as non-interactive as a title could possibly hope to be.

 

Yup, there was no battle system, or exploration to it, it was just ONE LONG MOVIE!

 

Please. You can pause the movies, so I personally looked at it as playing a game, taking a break, then watching a few good anime episodes. And all this talk about the lack of balance is HORRIBLY overexaggerated- the only time where there's really bad balance between the actual game and the movies is the start of it. After that it stays on the dungenon-movie-dungeon formula, which works just fine for me.

 

But hey, why play a game with an amazing story when you could just wander around in a crappy, cliched medieval enviornment instead? Who needs innovation when we have the same 'ol, same 'ol?

 

 

You have a habit of refuting points not made by me?

 

You made the "survivor horror is dead" point, so I refuted it. I added in the anti-kiddy point simply because you know as a Nintendo fan SOMEONE'S going to bring that up eventually, mine as well get that out of the way first.

 

And speaking on it- it's fun to see that Nintendo can do "kiddy" and "adult" games just fine, but when Microsoft tries to attract the tikes, it results in two really horrible games (Blinx and Grabbed by the Ghoulies). Just saying.

 

 

Mario Sunshine --- overrated crap.

 

You must be confusing the title with "Morrowind", sorry. Sunshine isn't the best game ever but it's a worthy follow-up to Mario 64 and I'd take it above almost anything on the Xbox.

 

 

Zelda --- eh. Didn't do much for me.

 

It was fun and different. Liked Ocarina of Time better, but again, this still beats almost anything on the Xbox.

 

 

Metroid Prime --- WAY too much exploration, way too little action.

 

Bah. Not EVERY FPS has to be the exact same way- Halo's just fine for the action, but I liked Prime better overall. I thought it was different and a hell of a lot of fun.

 

 

Sonic Adventure? Please tell me you're kidding.

 

Nope, both games are flat-out fun and beat any platformer on the Xbox (including Voodoo Vince- ugh. Can you get any more generic and crappy?).

 

 

Irrelevant. Seems to be a recurrent theme.

 

Uh, how is it irrelevant? You were pointing out that NFS: Underground was a really good racing game as a pro-Xbox point so I pointed out that the game is not only available on all three consoles, but is in fact BETTER on another console! Seems perfectly relevant to me.

 

 

People like crap. Not my fault.

 

You're right, it's unfortunate so many people like Morrowind. Really too bad.

 

 

All of GC's party games suck hard as well.

 

With a compelling, thought-out arguement like that, how could you NOT be right? Oh, yeah, very easily.

 

 

Doth thou wanteth a cookie?

 

I was pointing out why I don't like the Xbox, since for the millionth time no one seems to be getting it.

 

 

And WE pointed out --- since you're a bit slow on the uptake --- that XBox is doing poorly in Japan not because it lacks the great genres but because it is not made by Japan.

 

Simply refuting your weak attempt at logic.

 

You're a fucking idiot. Basic research would tell you that Microsoft's Japanese effort is absolutley pathetic, because THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY OF THE GENRES THAT SELL. First-person shooters do NOT sell. PC-style RPGs do NOT sell. I love how M$ fans try and give us the "Japanese people are bigots who won't buy anything not made in Japan" excuse because their company is too lazy to give it half a chance.

 

When Microsoft makes a half-decent attempt at the Japanese market- WITH GENRES THAT JAPANESE GAMERS ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT- and the system STILL sells 40 less units than the PSOne, then maybe you could start making that arguement. But with the pathetic effort Microsoft's made over there, claiming the system doesn't sell because Japanese people are all a bunch of anti-American bigots makes YOU look like a fucking bigot, and bigots make me sick.

 

 

You can stop now as nobody really cares.

 

I could say the same for you.

 

-Duo

What a maroon.

[Guest MikeSC]

Ah, a "moron"?

 

Perhaps if you could express yourself better, you wouldn't get criticized.

 

Don't bitch because YOU write poorly and make crappy points.

 

My points make perfect sense- I'm sorry that YOU can't seem to understand them.

 

Wait, no I'm not.

And the sharp wit is back.

The comparison is potentially GOOD games.

 

I suppose I can write more monosyllabically for you

 

How is it potientally good games when the games are already out?

I not play them yet. Game might not be good. I do not know. I will play and learn if good.

And I'm sorry you still don't get that a futuristic racing game and a PC-style RPG are good for ENTIRLEY DIFFERENT REASONS, so it makes no sense to compare them.

Good is good. I do not care why it is good.

So be it.

 

Keep in mind that in America, apparently, you are very much in the minority.

 

REALLY?!? I never knew that.

You try to make a joke. You fail. Same old, same old.

Now that I know everyone else isn't exactly the same as me, I'll have to give up the genres I've been playing for the majority of my life for walking around aimlessly swinging my sword in the air! YEAH, THAT'S THE TICKET!

 

You're a deluded idiot.

Oooh, a guy I don't know nor will ever meet thinks I'm dumb. That is quite the wound.

Xenosaga sucked the meat missile. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of movies masquerading as games. XS was about as non-interactive as a title could possibly hope to be.

 

Yup, there was no battle system, or exploration to it, it was just ONE LONG MOVIE!

Far more dead time than game time. But, hey, if a film is what you want, good for you.

Please. You can pause the movies, so I personally looked at it as playing a game, taking a break, then watching a few good anime episodes.

And I would like to NOT see the crap at all.

And all this talk about the lack of balance is HORRIBLY overexaggerated- the only time where there's really bad balance between the actual game and the movies is the start of it.

I guess you missed the loads of dead time.

After that it stays on the dungenon-movie-dungeon formula, which works just fine for me.

And I'd like to just play.

But hey, why play a game with an amazing story

Nice joke.

when you could just wander around in a crappy, cliched medieval enviornment instead? Who needs innovation when we have the same 'ol, same 'ol?

Weak plots are new?

You have a habit of refuting points not made by me?

 

You made the "survivor horror is dead" point, so I refuted it.

I did not say it was for kid's.

I added in the anti-kiddy point simply because you know as a Nintendo fan SOMEONE'S going to bring that up eventually, mine as well get that out of the way first.

Can I help you with your cross?

And speaking on it- it's fun to see that Nintendo can do "kiddy" and "adult" games just fine, but when Microsoft tries to attract the tikes, it results in two really horrible games (Blinx and Grabbed by the Ghoulies). Just saying.

Well, I'm not a kid, so I don't care.

Mario Sunshine --- overrated crap.

 

You must be confusing the title with "Morrowind", sorry.

Did not like that, either. Doesn't make SMS good.

Sunshine isn't the best game ever but it's a worthy follow-up to Mario 64 and I'd take it above almost anything on the Xbox.

That's due to your poor tastes.

Zelda --- eh. Didn't do much for me.

 

It was fun and different. Liked Ocarina of Time better, but again, this still beats almost anything on the Xbox.

If you say so.

Metroid Prime --- WAY too much exploration, way too little action.

 

Bah. Not EVERY FPS has to be the exact same way- Halo's just fine for the action, but I liked Prime better overall. I thought it was different and a hell of a lot of fun.

Not the same type of game. I do not like FPS.

Sonic Adventure? Please tell me you're kidding.

 

Nope, both games are flat-out fun and beat any platformer on the Xbox (including Voodoo Vince- ugh. Can you get any more generic and crappy?).

Well, the games that you say are fun fit the bill.

Irrelevant. Seems to be a recurrent theme.

 

Uh, how is it irrelevant? You were pointing out that NFS: Underground was a really good racing game as a pro-Xbox point so I pointed out that the game is not only available on all three consoles, but is in fact BETTER on another console! Seems perfectly relevant to me.

How? I like the game. I won't buy three games of it to test.

People like crap. Not my fault.

 

You're right, it's unfortunate so many people like Morrowind. Really too bad.

Oooh, more wit.

All of GC's party games suck hard as well.

 

With a compelling, thought-out arguement like that, how could you NOT be right? Oh, yeah, very easily.

They're bad. No more needs to be said.

Doth thou wanteth a cookie?

 

I was pointing out why I don't like the Xbox, since for the millionth time no one seems to be getting it.

NO ONE CARES. Not quite the same thing.

And WE pointed out --- since you're a bit slow on the uptake --- that XBox is doing poorly in Japan not because it lacks the great genres but because it is not made by Japan.

 

Simply refuting your weak attempt at logic.

 

You're a fucking idiot.

Ah, the words fail you?

Basic research would tell you that Microsoft's Japanese effort is absolutley pathetic, because THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY OF THE GENRES THAT SELL.

If you say so.

First-person shooters do NOT sell. PC-style RPGs do NOT sell. I love how M$ fans try and give us the "Japanese people are bigots who won't buy anything not made in Japan" excuse because their company is too lazy to give it half a chance.

Truth hurts.

When Microsoft makes a half-decent attempt at the Japanese market- WITH GENRES THAT JAPANESE GAMERS ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT- and the system STILL sells 40 less units than the PSOne, then maybe you could start making that arguement. But with the pathetic effort Microsoft's made over there, claiming the system doesn't sell because Japanese people are all a bunch of anti-American bigots makes YOU look like a fucking bigot, and bigots make me sick.

You can stop now as nobody really cares.

 

I could say the same for you.

 

-Duo

What a maroon.

Hey, did you notice that, until now, I kept it monosyllabic for you? Yay me!

 

Watching you have a fit on the boards over something so downright asinine is comical. It is better than a MMORPG.

-=Mike

[Guest MikeSC]

Okay, while Mike is taking the flaming route

Hmmm, Jobber --- care the explain how I'm "flaming" him?

 

Unless HE was the one called a "deluded idiot", a "fucking idiot", etc.

 

I know you have a dislike for me as is --- but can you at least say things with some basis in reality?

[Jobber of the Week 0]

No, Mike. I was just saying you're involved in conflict and I was taking the oppertunity to gush about a game I like since I've liked some of the games Duo may have liked (the more action-oriented FFs such as FF7 [not a fan of the ones with an overbearing love story though], Star Ocean 2, Suikoden, etc) and took a chance on KOTOR.

 

Also, Xbox saw a big sales increase in Japan since dropping the price and releasing a PGR2 bundle. The PS2 is still flying high of course, and will until this generation is over, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

 

This was the past week's games sales in Japan according to Enterbrain Monday. I've removed the stuff about how many copies each game has sold to categorize the games they are, so maybe we can come to a conclusion of what kind of game is what:

 

# 1. Mario Kart Double Dash!!, Nintendo, GCN: ARCADE RACING

# 2. Slime Mori Mori Dragon Quest, Square Enix, GBA: RPG (Looks too quirky for American tastes)

# 3. Siren, SCE, PS2: SURVIVAL HORROR

# 4. Busin 0 ~ Wizardry Alternative Neo ~, Atlus, PS2: RPG (First person)

# 5. Atsumare!! Made in Wario, Nintendo, GCN: MISC (Wario Ware for Cube. Quirky, but will probably make it here)

# 6. NBA Live 2004, EA, PS2: SPORTS (Well-recognized US franchise)

# 7. Super Robot Taisen Scramble Commander, Bandai, PS2: ANIME (Crossover mecha battling)

# 8. Naruto Narutimate Hero, Bandai, PS2: ANIME (Fighting)

# 9. Taiko no Tatsujin Appare Sandaime, Namco, PS2: MUSIC (Drum Simulator)

# 10. Sister Princess 2 Premium Fan Disk, PSX: DATING SIM

# 11. Pride GP 2003, Capcom, PS2: SPORTS

# 12. Grand Theft Auto III, Capcom, PS2: ACTION (Well-recognized US franchise)

# 13. Pocket Monsters Ruby & Saphire, Pokemon, GBA: MONSTER RAISING

# 14. Shin Sangokumusou 3 Buraiden, Koei, PS2: ACTION (Dynasty Warriors)

# 15. Simple 2000 Ultimate Vol. 13, D3 Publisher, PS2: MISC (Not Sure. Volume 6 was a boxing game with women in skimpy outfights fighting, so I imagine it wouldn't translate well here)

# 16. SNK vs Capcom SVC Chaos, SNK, NeoGeo: FIGHTING

# 17. Densetsu no Starfee 2, Nintendo, GBA: UNKNOWN (Only information I could find about was a track listing in Donkey Konga)

# 18. Love Smash 5, PS2: SPORTS (Goofy tennis game that shows anime girls in skimpy outfits on cover and has all sorts of goofy hearts and crap in in-game shots)

# 19. Super Mario Advance 4, Nintendo, GBA: PLATFORMER

# 20. EX Jinsei Game, Takara, PS2: UNKNOWN (Don't have a clue what this is, features anime-ish characters on the box though)

# 21. Hitman Silent Assassin, Eidos, PS2: ACTION (US game "Hitman 2")

# 22. Front Mission First, Square Enix, PS: STRATEGY

# 23. World Soccer Winning Eleven 7, Konami, PS2: SPORTS

# 24. Rakushou Pachi-suro Sengen, Tecmo, PS2: UNKNOWN (Found nothing)

# 25. Pokemon Pinball Ruby & Saphire, Pokemon, GBA: MONSTER RAISING

# 26. G-1 Jockey 2003, Enterbrain, PS2: SPORTS

# 27. Super Dimensional Fortress Macross, Bandai, PS2: ANIME

# 28. Hanabi Hyakkei, Nippon Amusement Housou, PS2: UNKNOWN (What the hell is this?)

# 29. Kirby's Air Ride, Nintendo, GCN: ARCADE RACING

# 30. Made in Wario, Nintendo, GBA: MISC (GBA Wario Ware)

 

 

So... What we have found is that aside from a few sports games and the very rare US franchise or action game, Microsoft needs more games for guys who wank off to anime girls. And monster raising with OMGKAWAII^________^*@*@_^% critters.

[Guest MikeSC]

No, Mike. I was just saying you're involved in conflict and I was taking the oppertunity to gush about a game I like since I've liked some of the games Duo may have liked (the more action-oriented FFs such as FF7 [not a fan of the ones with an overbearing love story though], Star Ocean 2, Suikoden, etc) and took a chance on KOTOR.

 

Also, Xbox saw a big sales increase in Japan since dropping the price and releasing a PGR2 bundle. The PS2 is still flying high of course, and will until this generation is over, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

 

This was the past week's games sales in Japan according to Enterbrain Monday. I've removed the stuff about how many copies each game has sold to categorize the games they are, so maybe we can come to a conclusion of what kind of game is what:

 

# 1. Mario Kart Double Dash!!, Nintendo, GCN: ARCADE RACING

# 2. Slime Mori Mori Dragon Quest, Square Enix, GBA: RPG (Looks too quirky for American tastes)

# 3. Siren, SCE, PS2: SURVIVAL HORROR

# 4. Busin 0 ~ Wizardry Alternative Neo ~, Atlus, PS2: RPG (First person)

# 5. Atsumare!! Made in Wario, Nintendo, GCN: MISC (Wario Ware for Cube. Quirky, but will probably make it here)

# 6. NBA Live 2004, EA, PS2: SPORTS (Well-recognized US franchise)

# 7. Super Robot Taisen Scramble Commander, Bandai, PS2: ANIME (Crossover mecha battling)

# 8. Naruto Narutimate Hero, Bandai, PS2: ANIME (Fighting)

# 9. Taiko no Tatsujin Appare Sandaime, Namco, PS2: MUSIC (Drum Simulator)

# 10. Sister Princess 2 Premium Fan Disk, PSX: DATING SIM

# 11. Pride GP 2003, Capcom, PS2: SPORTS

# 12. Grand Theft Auto III, Capcom, PS2: ACTION (Well-recognized US franchise)

# 13. Pocket Monsters Ruby & Saphire, Pokemon, GBA: MONSTER RAISING

# 14. Shin Sangokumusou 3 Buraiden, Koei, PS2: ACTION (Dynasty Warriors)

# 15. Simple 2000 Ultimate Vol. 13, D3 Publisher, PS2: MISC (Not Sure. Volume 6 was a boxing game with women in skimpy outfights fighting, so I imagine it wouldn't translate well here)

# 16. SNK vs Capcom SVC Chaos, SNK, NeoGeo: FIGHTING

# 17. Densetsu no Starfee 2, Nintendo, GBA: UNKNOWN (Only information I could find about was a track listing in Donkey Konga)

# 18. Love Smash 5, PS2: SPORTS (Goofy tennis game that shows anime girls in skimpy outfits on cover and has all sorts of goofy hearts and crap in in-game shots)

# 19. Super Mario Advance 4, Nintendo, GBA: PLATFORMER

# 20. EX Jinsei Game, Takara, PS2: UNKNOWN (Don't have a clue what this is, features anime-ish characters on the box though)

# 21. Hitman Silent Assassin, Eidos, PS2: ACTION (US game "Hitman 2")

# 22. Front Mission First, Square Enix, PS: STRATEGY

# 23. World Soccer Winning Eleven 7, Konami, PS2: SPORTS

# 24. Rakushou Pachi-suro Sengen, Tecmo, PS2: UNKNOWN (Found nothing)

# 25. Pokemon Pinball Ruby & Saphire, Pokemon, GBA: MONSTER RAISING

# 26. G-1 Jockey 2003, Enterbrain, PS2: SPORTS

# 27. Super Dimensional Fortress Macross, Bandai, PS2: ANIME

# 28. Hanabi Hyakkei, Nippon Amusement Housou, PS2: UNKNOWN (What the hell is this?)

# 29. Kirby's Air Ride, Nintendo, GCN: ARCADE RACING

# 30. Made in Wario, Nintendo, GBA: MISC (GBA Wario Ware)

 

 

So... What we have found is that aside from a few sports games and the very rare US franchise or action game, Microsoft needs more games for guys who wank off to anime girls. And monster raising with OMGKAWAII^________^*@*@_^% critters.

Honestly, at this point, since the Japanese market is SO, well, "weird" (they do like some ODD titles, kids) --- perhaps Microsoft should just write them off entirely.

 

I'm sure they can be quite profitable without spending money in Japan.

-=Mike

[Guest Vitamin EC]

If Microsoft want to get more Japanese gamers, they just need to get Sega to pump out more games like JSRF and Panzer Dragoon... and if they still aren't interested, so fool them.

[Guest Kamui]

So... What we have found is that aside from a few sports games and the very rare US franchise or action game, Microsoft needs more games for guys who wank off to anime girls. And monster raising with OMGKAWAII^________^*@*@_^% critters.

YES. Exactly. I'm not saying the Japanese gaming market is perfect....but if you're going to try and take it over with wakeboarding games and FPSes, then you mine as well not even bother. And again, having deluded M$ fans call all Japanese gamers bigots because their company is too lazy to make a half-decent attempt at the Japanese market is bullshit and racism, because if Nintendo or Sony tried to take over the Japanese market with the titles that Microsoft is using, THEY WOULD FAIL.

 

Let me make an example here: a little while back, Bandai was basically trying to find someone new to buy some stock and kind of partner up when it comes to the Gundam franchise. Now, I don't know how familiar you two are with the Gundam franchise, but it's always been a big seller over in Japan. Microsoft has plenty of money and could have scored a big hit with the Japanese gaming audiance by getting Bandai on their side....but instead they practically ignored it and allowed Nintendo to partner up with Bandai instead. Now Nintendo is going to get a custom Gundam Gamecube that will sell well with the fans and a few exclusive Gundam games to further boost their Japanese sales, because of M$'s blatant stupidity.

 

I'll make one final point before I lay it to rest: the current man in charge of Microsoft's Japanese gaming division is the former VP of Square USA, the company that brought us such "hits" as Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest and Secret of Evermore. But no, there's no way HE could possibly be incompotent! I rest my case.

 

-Duo

And actually JOTW, I didn't like FF7 that much, sorry.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

So... What we have found is that aside from a few sports games and the very rare US franchise or action game, Microsoft needs more games for guys who wank off to anime girls. And monster raising with OMGKAWAII^________^*@*@_^% critters.

YES. Exactly.

Then you see why I consider that not a market worth fighting for. Although the Japanese gamers are generally pretty "hardcore", there's not nearly enough of them to really deserve a bunch of dating sims and panty shot simulators. The money from the US market is much higher.

 

Exactly how this ties in with you not liking Xbox, I'm not sure. It's not like a lot of those games make it overseas anyway.

 

And actually JOTW, I didn't like FF7 that much, sorry.

 

Four? Six? Any one of them that wasn't just a teenage romance novel repackaged as a game?

[Guest Kamui]

Then you see why I consider that not a market worth fighting for. Although the Japanese gamers are generally pretty "hardcore", there's not nearly enough of them to really deserve a bunch of dating sims and panty shot simulators. The money from the US market is much higher.

 

Exactly how this ties in with you not liking Xbox, I'm not sure. It's not like a lot of those games make it overseas anyway.

Well, then again, don't make a half-assed attempt to win over the market and then call all Japanese gamers bigots. That was my point.

 

And again- I don't like the Xbox because it doesn't have the genres I like. Pretty damn simple, but yet you STILL don't get it.

 

BTW, I did like IV, V, and VI, but yeah. Liked VIII and X better.

 

-Duo