Guest JacK Report post Posted November 30, 2003 Can someone clear this up for me? Because it's all very vague to me at the moment, since I didn't watch wrestling way back then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2003 At Bash at the Beach 2000, Jarrett was lying down in the middle of the ring waiting for Hogan to pin him. Hogan didn't do it, then Russo came out and I think he told Hogan to go to the back (not sure, I was inconsistent with watching WCW 2000). It's basically some lame excuse for TNA trying to get buyrates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JacK Report post Posted November 30, 2003 Yes, it does seem quite lame when watching it; it's like "Who cares, move on!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dvkorn Report post Posted November 30, 2003 Hogan won a title shot for Bash at the Beash at the Great American Bash 2000 by defeating Billy Kidman... Great American Bash was also when Goldberg turned heel... So, on one of th Nitros following (not sure if it was the one after GAB or the next)... Goldberg jackhammered Hogan through a table and Hogan didn't appear on WCW TV until Bash at the Beach... everyone was speculating (well, storyline wise..., not sure if it was actually thre case on the net seeing i didn't really read it at that time) whether Hogan would show up... He did... This was also a time when Russo was off for a few weeks as well for whatever reason... So, Russo makes his return with Jarrett at BATB and as soon as the bell rings to start the match.. Jarrett lays down... Hogan is shocked.. Russo is saying "you want the belt? pin him..!" Russo throws the belt at Hogan... Hogan gets on the mic and says "Is this your deal Russo..? Thats why this company is in the damn shape it's in.. because of bullshit like this...!" Hogan puts his foot on Jarrett for the cover 1 - 2 - 3.. Jarrett gets up straight after and walks off.... Supposedly, Hogan tried to tell Jarrett to stay and have a match but Jarrett said he was just doin what the boss was saying... So, Hogan is the new champion... Then they have a Vampiro segment on the show... Then Russo comes out to the ring and starts his 'shoot' on Hogan... he basically says hes been playing politics all day long with Hulk Hogan because hogan wanted to invoke his creative control clause and beat Jeff Jarrett... he says Jeff Jarrett is still the official champion and the belt Hogan has can be renamed the Hulk hogan memorial belt because it don't mean shit... then Jarrett goes on to defend the belt against Booker T and lose it to him for Booker 1st title win in a great match mind you... so, i think i covered everything... I have no idea how much of it was worked or how much was real... i tend to not give as much credit to what hogan says in his book basically because his book is a work of fiction... take it for what you will... anything i left out...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 30, 2003 What I find hilarious is that they're referencing a PPV event with a horrid buyrate in the hopes of spiking their buyrates. Interesting strategy. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2003 It's all so convoluted. Apparently Hogan and Russo agreed prior to the show to swerve everyone and act like it was a shoot. They agreed that Jarrrett would lie down and force Hogan to pin him, and that Booker T would win the "real" title later in the night. The plan was for Hogan to go away for a while and then shock everyone by coming back and have a unification match with Booker T to unify the 2 titles. But...after the match Russo went on a tirade calling Hogan a piece of shit and starts shooting on how he plays political games which apparently was not agreed to which led to a lawsuit by Hogan for defamation of character that was dismissed as the court decided that in the context of a wrestling show Russo was talking about Hogan the character and not Hogan the person. Anyway they're using it now to get more heat on the Jarrett/Hogan feud but luckily they're treating the NWA title and the fact that HOgan's never worn it as equally a big deal. Anyway here's from SK's rant: - WCW World title match: Jeff Jarrett v. Hulk Hogan. Vince Russo joins us at ringside. Jarrett immediately lies down at Russo’s behest, as Russo tosses the belt to Hogan and walks away. Hogan grabs the mike and says "this is why the company’s in the state it’s in…because of bullshit like this!" and pins Jarrett with one foot to win the title. DUD Tony says "Swerve", so it must be a work, because SST. This is, of course, the same deal as Halloween Havoc, which failed to set the wrestling world on fire, either. Russo’s back again. He bitches about backstage politics and says that he came back for the people in the back who still "give a shit" about the company, like Jarrett and Booker, and not Hogan. So Russo promises that we will never see "that piece of shit" again now that Hogan’s got his title as promised by his creative control. He declares the belt held by Hogan to be dead, and states that Jarrett is still the official WCW champion, and he’ll defend against the guy who DESERVES a shot, Booker T. He finishes with a flurry, calling Hogan bald (a longtime no-no) and telling him to kiss his ass. Work, shoot, who cares, as long as Hogan gets told off on TV finally? This is definite hardcore internet smark stuff, though, as understanding the storyline means understanding that Hogan has been vetoing jobbing to Jarrett for the past few weeks and always attempts to get "his" title back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2003 And TNA is actually, I feel, pushing AWAY new viewers by having a semi-shoot storyline that the only people who would get it, the IWC, don't give a fuck about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2003 And TNA is actually, I feel, pushing AWAY new viewers by having a semi-shoot storyline that the only people who would get it, the IWC, don't give a fuck about. And it's not like they can show footage of it either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted November 30, 2003 The only people who watch NWA:TNA are the IWC.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2003 Hence "core fanbase." And we've made it clear we'd like to forget everything about 2000 WCW...except for 3Count. You GOTTA love 3Count. In fact, in honor of 3Count's memory, I'd like to sing the song. Get up on your feet! Put your hands together! Sing along with 3Count! We'll party on forever! We like the Backstreet Boys *NSync too! Britney Spears Is kinda cute! We watch T-R-L On MTV! Everybody 3Count One, two, three! One! Two! Threeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted December 1, 2003 Hence "core fanbase." And we've made it clear we'd like to forget everything about 2000 WCW...except for 3Count. You GOTTA love 3Count. In fact, in honor of 3Count's memory, I'd like to sing the song. Get up on your feet! Put your hands together! Sing along with 3Count! We'll party on forever! We like the Backstreet Boys *NSync too! Britney Spears Is kinda cute! We watch T-R-L On MTV! Everybody 3Count One, two, three! One! Two! Threeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!! Boy, Hart could write annoyingly catchy things, couldn't he? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2003 I can't get you out of my heart! Something something from the start... Gotta love Tank Abbot as their manager... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2003 I clicked on this thread expecting Bash At The Beach, and I got talk about Evan Karagias instead. AAAAHHHHHHH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted December 1, 2003 But JJ said to NEVER bring this up again!!!!!!!! Damn you!!!!!!! AHHHAHHGHAAAA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamoaRowe 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2003 So... why is this folder so dead again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted December 1, 2003 It honestly was never really alive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2003 Actually, this folder goes through as many cycles as TNA does. When TNA is being great again, this folder has threads apoppin' and replies aplenty. Now that TNA is at another lull, one that doesn't seem to be disappearing anytime soon, fans are turning away. And yes, Mike, Hart COULD write some annoyingly catchy stuff. As far as rip-off songs, he's the best. How many awesome WCW themes were just rip-off's of already awesome tunes? So many people used a rip-off of "The Zoo" that I can't even count, but you know what? "The Zoo," in ANY form, is a great song, so fuck it. And I'm in the vast minority that liked Tank Abbot as 3Count's abusive manager. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted December 1, 2003 Actually, this folder goes through as many cycles as TNA does. When TNA is being great again, this folder has threads apoppin' and replies aplenty. Now that TNA is at another lull, one that doesn't seem to be disappearing anytime soon, fans are turning away. And yes, Mike, Hart COULD write some annoyingly catchy stuff. As far as rip-off songs, he's the best. How many awesome WCW themes were just rip-off's of already awesome tunes? So many people used a rip-off of "The Zoo" that I can't even count, but you know what? "The Zoo," in ANY form, is a great song, so fuck it. And I'm in the vast minority that liked Tank Abbot as 3Count's abusive manager. This was only one of the few reasons that I watched WCW in it's dying days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
