Worst Final Fantasy Villain?

[Slayer 0]

To go along with the Worst Final Fantasy Lead thread.

 

I didn't post this one in poll form though because

1) I don't know all the villains, since I haven't played every single game beginning to end, and

2) Potential debate for who the true villain in a particular game, since some of the ending villains in FFs tend to be different from the original antagonist for most of the game (i.e. FFIV shifting from Golbez to Zemus; FFVIII shifting from Seifer to Ultimecia)

 

My first choice would have to be Exdeath from FFV. He's an evil tree. AN EVIL TREE. That kind of thing may fly in Oz, but not in FF land.

 

Second would be Kuja from FFIX, as he just seemed to be an attempt to recreate Sephiroth, except now with 25% more bishonen!

[Jer 0]

Definately Necron from FF9. I didn't even know what the fuck he was. Kuja was built as the villian for the entire game, and the final boss is this stupid thing that isn't even explained? Awful.

[Guest Kamui]

Definately Necron from FF9. I didn't even know what the fuck he was. Kuja was built as the villian for the entire game, and the final boss is this stupid thing that isn't even explained? Awful.

Agreed, and just one more reason why I LOATHE FFIX.

[JHawk 0]

Definately Necron from FF9.  I didn't even know what the fuck he was.  Kuja was built as the villian for the entire game, and the final boss is this stupid thing that isn't even explained?  Awful.

Agreed, and just one more reason why I LOATHE FFIX.

I also concur.

 

Hell, all that was missing was for Vince McMahon to unmask and go "It was ME Zidane! It was me all along!"

 

And I actually liked XI up until halfway through the last disc too.

[Damaramu 0]

I'll have to go with Ultimecia or any villain that is just dropped on you at the end. Why the fuck do I want to fight someone that isn't built up?

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Ultimecia was talked about well in advance of the end, it is just that she didn't do anything before then and you never saw her.

 

For overall villains, the worst is Seifer Almasy. He gets built up as this big adversary to Squall, and he's just a henchman. His entire motivation is that he wants to be a lacky of Ultimecia, and he just dumps that the moment Fujin & Raijin ask him to stop. Not to mention he is a complete pushover.

 

FFVIII was terrible. Fortunately, FFIX was the second best in the series.

[Jer 0]

FFVIII was terrible. Fortunately, FFIX was the second best in the series.

 

No way, you need a good ending to have a satisfying RPG. FF9 combined the worst final boss ever with the most ridiculously syrupy, vomit enducing ending ever. It left such a bad final impression that it just killed the overall experience.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

FFVIII was terrible. Fortunately, FFIX was the second best in the series.

 

No way, you need a good ending to have a satisfying RPG. FF9 combined the worst final boss ever with the most ridiculously syrupy, vomit enducing ending ever. It left such a bad final impression that it just killed the overall experience.

The final bosses in IV, VIII & X were just as bad. At least in IX there is no mistaking that Kuja is the real villain, even you don't fight him last.

[AndrewTS 0]

No offense to Sakura, Yuna, or anyone else who liked FFVIII, but I've gotten the general impression among some big FF fans, and some soaking in of consensus, that among th eHardcore Squenixites FFVIII is the least favorite FF. Depending on whether you count Mystic Quest or not, that is.

 

Of course, the ones I've heard from are almost all male, so that could be a big factor.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

No offense to Sakura, Yuna, or anyone else who liked FFVIII, but I've gotten the general impression among some big FF fans, and some soaking in of consensus, that among th eHardcore Squenixites FFVIII is the least favorite FF. Depending on whether you count Mystic Quest or not, that is.

 

Of course, the ones I've heard from are almost all male, so that could have a bit factor.

X is pretty bad too in terms of characters and plot, but the actual fighting is probably the best in the series. Not only does VIII's story suck, but the GF/Draw System is terrible. FFX is at least fun to play even if Tidus is the most annoying character this side of Raiden.

[Slayer 0]

Okay, here's what I pieced together from memory and reading around and such. Contributions to incomplete portions are appreciated

 

I: Garland -> Fiends -> Garland again-> Chaos

II: The Emperor

III: No idea

IV: Baron -> Golbez -> Zemus

V: Exdeath

VI: Kefka (Empire plays relatively minor role in the first half, but you know Kefka is the STAR)

VII: Sephiroth (see VI, replace "Empire" with "Shinra")

VIII: Seifer -> Ultimecia

IX: Kuja (I'm not counting Necron, no way)

X: Sin -> ? (I've heard about the segue into something else, but I never played the full game)

X2: No idea

[Slayer 0]

X is pretty bad too in terms of characters and plot, but the actual fighting is probably the best in the series. Not only does VIII's story suck, but the GF/Draw System is terrible. FFX is at least fun to play even if Tidus is the most annoying character this side of Raiden.

This man speaks the TRUTH

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Edea is the main enemy for the first part of FFVIII, not Seifer. He is just her henchman.

 

Also, Leon is the main villain in FFII for a brief little while before the Undead Emperor shows up.

 

Yu Yevon ends up being the main enemy in FFX.

 

Necron is the final boss in FFIX, but he was never the main villain. You just fight him afterwards. It happens in some Bond films too, that he has stuff to do after killing the main villain (ex. Spy Who Loved Me). Garland has importance too, but Kuja was clearly the main guy.

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

Why the fuck do I want to fight someone that isn't built up?

I'll have to agree with that. I mean, I enjoy stories that start out kinda small [example, Squall, in the beginning, is just a student at a military school, hoping to pass a test] then get grander as you go along [...is grander a word? Prolly not]

 

But, still....these enemies that just come out of the blue are very annoying. For instance, what's-her-name at the end of FF8. Not Ultimecia; the sorceress before that.

 

Oh, Adel! Heh...I'm like writing at 2am so my brain isn't all there. Adel was just..ugh. It's, like, okay the enemies at that point are Seifer, Edea, Ultimecia, and now Adel? It was just confusing with the whole time compression thing.

 

X is pretty bad too in terms of characters and plot

How is it bad? Personally, I think it's the best so far [haven't played much of X2]. It's, if I'm not mistaken, twice as long as 8 or 9, and it really pulled me into the story. Almost all the characters were interesting in their own right.

 

Tidus - okay, maybe his voice acting made him sound too much like a bitch, but his story was interesting. Being found out he's a dream and all that. Plus, I liked the sub-story about how he hates his dad. He may hate him, but still wanted his love. Heh...getting too mushy...time to move on...

 

When I get more awake, I'll prolly post more.

[Slayer 0]

Tidus - okay, maybe his voice acting made him sound too much like a bitch, but his story was interesting. Being found out he's a dream and all that.

That happens to me sometimes, except that I actually wake up

[Damaramu 0]

Why the fuck do I want to fight someone that isn't built up?

I'll have to agree with that. I mean, I enjoy stories that start out kinda small [example, Squall, in the beginning, is just a student at a military school, hoping to pass a test] then get grander as you go along [...is grander a word? Prolly not]

 

But, still....these enemies that just come out of the blue are very annoying. For instance, what's-her-name at the end of FF8. Not Ultimecia; the sorceress before that.

 

Oh, Adel! Heh...I'm like writing at 2am so my brain isn't all there. Adel was just..ugh. It's, like, okay the enemies at that point are Seifer, Edea, Ultimecia, and now Adel? It was just confusing with the whole time compression thing.

 

X is pretty bad too in terms of characters and plot

How is it bad? Personally, I think it's the best so far [haven't played much of X2]. It's, if I'm not mistaken, twice as long as 8 or 9, and it really pulled me into the story. Almost all the characters were interesting in their own right.

 

Tidus - okay, maybe his voice acting made him sound too much like a bitch, but his story was interesting. Being found out he's a dream and all that. Plus, I liked the sub-story about how he hates his dad. He may hate him, but still wanted his love. Heh...getting too mushy...time to move on...

 

When I get more awake, I'll prolly post more.

Best so far? You obviously haven't played 6.

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

Nope, I haven't. Prolly wouldn't be able to, now, after playing such awesome graphical games like 8 and 10. I'm not a graphics whore or anything when it comes to games, but realistic graphics and voice acting beats sprites and text anyday. Well, usually.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

I'll take text over the terrible voice acting for characters like Tidus & Rikku.

[Damaramu 0]

Nope, I haven't. Prolly wouldn't be able to, now, after playing such awesome graphical games like 8 and 10. I'm not a graphics whore or anything when it comes to games, but realistic graphics and voice acting beats sprites and text anyday. Well, usually.

The text carried more emotion than the voice acting.......

[JHawk 0]

I admit that I haven't played VI, but out of the ones I've played X was my favorite, followed by VII. I've still never beaten VIII so I won't comment (stop taking my spells, you sorceress bitch!). IX was the first one I played so I enjoyed it, but it didn't hold up compared to the others IMO.

[Damaramu 0]

I admit that I haven't played VI, but out of the ones I've played X was my favorite, followed by VII. I've still never beaten VIII so I won't comment (stop taking my spells, you sorceress bitch!). IX was the first one I played so I enjoyed it, but it didn't hold up compared to the others IMO.

You know if you use a hero potion(i believe that's what it is called) she can't blow your summons away....making it very easy to blow her away with Eden.

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

I admit that I haven't played VI, but out of the ones I've played X was my favorite, followed by VII.  I've still never beaten VIII so I won't comment (stop taking my spells, you sorceress bitch!).  IX was the first one I played so I enjoyed it, but it didn't hold up compared to the others IMO.

You know if you use a hero potion(i believe that's what it is called) she can't blow your summons away....making it very easy to blow her away with Eden.

Oh, also, I found that Irvine's Pulse Ammo is quite effective against the Griever....I think it did 9,999 damage.

[Guest Kamui]

I liked VIII's villains. I thought the Squall/Seifer rivalry was interesting at the start, and while Seifer's ending may have been unsatisfactory, I'd consider him an interesting enough villain to carry the rest. Really, they never made a big deal about any other villains- the point of the game wasn't Edea or Ultimecia (who were there to provide boss fights), but the point of the game was Squall and Rinoa. Pretty simple, really.

 

And hey, I enjoyed FF8's GF/Draw battle system. X's was better, sure, but 8's was interesting and different. Don't act like everyone shares the same opinion just because it's the majority's (by majority I mean majority of FF fans- there's still plenty of 8 die-hards out there, believe me, I know).

 

I also liked X's villain- the idea of Yu Yevon being the final boss I really warmed up to after playing through it a second time. Look at it from a metaphorical sense (what has been plauging that world and holding it back?) and it makes a LOT more sense. Besides, Sin is really the main boss, and the idea of this being that's just a tool of destruction, rather than sentinent, was a nice change.

 

IX still had the worst villain for me, whether you consider it to be Kuja or Necron. Both were horrible and unmemorable- like, say, THE ENTIRE GAME.

[Damaramu 0]

I liked VIII's villains. I thought the Squall/Seifer rivalry was interesting at the start, and while Seifer's ending may have been unsatisfactory, I'd consider him an interesting enough villain to carry the rest. Really, they never made a big deal about any other villains- the point of the game wasn't Edea or Ultimecia (who were there to provide boss fights), but the point of the game was Squall and Rinoa. Pretty simple, really.

Pretty simpley a load of suck then.

[Guest Kamui]

I liked VIII's villains. I thought the Squall/Seifer rivalry was interesting at the start, and while Seifer's ending may have been unsatisfactory, I'd consider him an interesting enough villain to carry the rest. Really, they never made a big deal about any other villains- the point of the game wasn't Edea or Ultimecia (who were there to provide boss fights), but the point of the game was Squall and Rinoa. Pretty simple, really.

Pretty simpley a load of suck then.

I'm not saying they're the best ever, but they're still better than IX's.

[Damaramu 0]

I liked VIII's villains. I thought the Squall/Seifer rivalry was interesting at the start, and while Seifer's ending may have been unsatisfactory, I'd consider him an interesting enough villain to carry the rest. Really, they never made a big deal about any other villains- the point of the game wasn't Edea or Ultimecia (who were there to provide boss fights), but the point of the game was Squall and Rinoa. Pretty simple, really.

Pretty simpley a load of suck then.

I'm not saying they're the best ever, but they're still better than IX's.

I hate both games equally. Neither is better.

[chirs3 0]

1. Ultemecia was the worst, definitely.

 

2. Necron doesn't even qualify as a villain.

 

Really, they never made a big deal about any other villains- the point of the game wasn't Edea or Ultimecia (who were there to provide boss fights), but the point of the game was Squall and Rinoa. Pretty simple, really.

 

3. That's why I loathe Final Fantasy VIII. They put the love story before the actual story. I mean, I'm not a big fan of the Zidane/Dagger romance, but at least in that game there was an actual story, with an actual villain. So if I didn't care too much about whether or not Zidane would get the girl, I at least gave a crap about saving the world from Kuja.

 

Same with X. I wasn't swooning at the sight of Tidus and Yuna kissing, I didn't really care, but that little thing called, you know, the plot, made the game worth playing.

 

Not so with VIII.

[Kardo 0]

You see the difference is I prefer the characters to drive the story, rather then the story to drive the characters. That's why I enjoyed VIII so much.

[Damaramu 0]

You see the difference is I prefer the characters to drive the story, rather then the story to drive the characters. That's why I enjoyed VIII so much.

Yeah but when the characters that drive that story suck and the story being driven sucks...then you get nothing.

FFVIII is a bunch of retards driving a beat up Geo Metro.

[Anya 0]

I guess The Emperor, there really isn't much to him. He doesn't even have a name.

 

I like the villains to be on screen doing stuff often. Villains like Kuja, Kefka and Sephiroth. It sucks when they build someone up and then claim they were controlled the entire time, like Yevon, Ultimecia and Zemus.

 

I don't really mind Necron. It's better than something revealing it was controlling Kuja the whole time and it made it easier for them to turn Kuja good.

 

 

 

Of course, the ones I've heard from are almost all male, so that could be a big factor.

 

If so, it proves girls are better than guys.

Edited December 7, 2003 by Sakura