JoeDirt Posted December 8, 2003 Report Posted December 8, 2003 Okay, here we go. 1) Why didn't Undertaker wrestle at Summerslam 91? Was he injured? Was there just no room on the card? Seems strange, since he could just squash somebody, right? 2) Did Vince really apologize for KOTR 95 on a RAW after it? What did he say? 3) Why was Waylon Mercy (Dan Spivey) going to get a big push in 95 before he got injured? Because he was big? 4) Why was the Survivor Series 92 tag match booked as a DQ? 5) Was the original plan for WM8 to have Hogan vs. Flair, Savage vs. Jake, and Sid vs. Taker? When was this plan changed? 6) What was the deal on the RAW in 96 where they showed Warrior wrestling after he was gone from the company and voiced over some stuff during the match? 7) What's the biggest example of a "sure thing" title change that didn't happen? Luger vs. Yoko at SS 93? Another match, perhaps? 8) When did Sid leave the WWF in late 95/early 96, what did he do then, and how did they get him to come back in July of 96? 9) Who's neck did Marty Janetty break with the Rocker Dropper? 10) I read that Mr. Perfect was originally booked to win the 1990 RR. Was Hogan vs. Perfect the original WM6 plan, then, before Hogan decided he wanted to work with Warrior instead? Thanks!
deancoles Posted December 8, 2003 Report Posted December 8, 2003 Okay, here we go. 1) Why didn't Undertaker wrestle at Summerslam 91? Was he injured? Was there just no room on the card? Seems strange, since he could just squash somebody, right? 2) Did Vince really apologize for KOTR 95 on a RAW after it? What did he say? 3) Why was Waylon Mercy (Dan Spivey) going to get a big push in 95 before he got injured? Because he was big? 4) Why was the Survivor Series 92 tag match booked as a DQ? 5) Was the original plan for WM8 to have Hogan vs. Flair, Savage vs. Jake, and Sid vs. Taker? When was this plan changed? 6) What was the deal on the RAW in 96 where they showed Warrior wrestling after he was gone from the company and voiced over some stuff during the match? 7) What's the biggest example of a "sure thing" title change that didn't happen? Luger vs. Yoko at SS 93? Another match, perhaps? 8) When did Sid leave the WWF in late 95/early 96, what did he do then, and how did they get him to come back in July of 96? 9) Who's neck did Marty Janetty break with the Rocker Dropper? 10) I read that Mr. Perfect was originally booked to win the 1990 RR. Was Hogan vs. Perfect the original WM6 plan, then, before Hogan decided he wanted to work with Warrior instead? Thanks! 1)Not sure,maybe to make the attack during the wedding a surprise. 2)I don't think he apologised,i remember him saying something about the internet. 3)Because he was big,could work and had a unique gimmick. 4)Because Razor(who should have been pinned) had a wwf title match at Royal Rumble 93 and they wanted to make him look a legit contender. 5)Hogan vs Flair was nixed because Hogan wanted to leave and back then the heel always lost in the World title match,hence the other 2 being swithced around. 6)They showed it because he was beat down after the match which made him look really bad. 7)Not the best example but at Wrestlemania 7 everyone thought that Bossman would win the Ic title from mr perfect. 8)i'm not sure,Sid and 1-2-3 Kid were about to win the Tag Titles so it was either an injury or Sid did something. 9)Can't remember but the guy got a hell of a lot of money. 10)Hogan didn't want to look bad by beeing the last man eliminated,Hogan vs Zeus was actually the original WM6 plan.
ChrisMWaters Posted December 8, 2003 Report Posted December 8, 2003 I can answer 5 and 7 for you. 5) Yes, and the reason it was changed is because Hogan was about to "retire" to go do more movies and such, and they didn't want to make Hogan look weak or put the belt on someone who wasn't going to be there. 7) For me, I REALLY thought with all my heart that Cactus Jack at Rumble 02 was a sure thing title win.
Guest Indikator Posted December 8, 2003 Report Posted December 8, 2003 1. Because the match Made in Hell was too good ;-) 3. a) He´s big b) He was already in the WWF as "Golden Boy" Danny Spivey c) He had an ultra-cool gimmick d) He could wrestle quite well (All Japan - although his knee´s were worse than Muto´s) e) He´s big f) He´s big 5. Probably before SS 1991, since they had the Snake vs. Savage match at TIT. If you have seen Flair vs. Hogan and Undertaker vs. Sid from 1991 you know that one match sucked and that neither Sid or Undie would have jobbed 8. Softball Season - stole his bat 9) Chad Austin 10) Could be - but Perfect wasn´t credible enough for the young imbeciles as he sold moves (Oldtimer: He got what he deserved - I never bumped in my career! )
cawthon777 Posted December 8, 2003 Report Posted December 8, 2003 5. Probably before SS 1991, since they had the Snake vs. Savage match at TIT. If you have seen Flair vs. Hogan and Undertaker vs. Sid from 1991 you know that one match sucked and that neither Sid or Undie would have jobbed To clear up the question from earlier, Hogan didn't step aside to retire. He took a leave of absence to take some heat off Vince during the steroid situation which flared up big in late 91 / early 92. Take a look at the CHV version of WrestleMania VIII - during a luncheon, Hogan tells Okerlund that he's going to just take some time off and then come back to challenge the champion. And that's exactly what happened, though he was probably brought back earlier than anticipated due to the fall in ratings and attendance. As far as the proposed matches for WrestleMania, all three would have been money makers - especially Hogan / Flair. That was a match that was nearly 10 years in the making and they had taken it around the horn for 6 months prior to Mania, in both singles and tag matches. You can argue the quality of the matches all day long - but they drew massive heat and interest from around the world. It was the ultimate mark vs. smark series with Flair having more than handful of fans in attenance. I doubt Sid or Taker had problems losing. Taker lost to Warrior every day of the week during the first half of 1991 and lost to Sid every day of the week during the second half (at least until Sid got hurt; once he returned in early 92, the losing streak for Taker continued).
JoeDirt Posted December 8, 2003 Author Report Posted December 8, 2003 Couldn't they still have done Hogan/Flair and have it end with Hogan winning by DQ, Flair and Perfect and some other heel beating Hogan down, and Warrior returning? Then they could have had Taker beat Sid and Savage beat Jake in a career match. Just surprised they didn't go that direction, but I can see why they'd want the babyface to win the world title at WM. Thanks for the answers so far, BTW.
Guest wayzing Posted December 10, 2003 Report Posted December 10, 2003 7) What's the biggest example of a "sure thing" title change that didn't happen? Luger vs. Yoko at SS 93? Another match, perhaps? Some interesting questions there, Joe. A huge "can't miss" title match was the World Tag Title match at Starrcade'87. The Road Warriors, who were one of the key figures on the NWA roster at the time, had been on the hunt for a long time and their big opportunity came in their home town of Chicago. The show was billed as Chi-Town Heat and the fans in attendance had seen them miss too many times already and now they were sooooo ready to pop for a clean title win. Of course Animal & Hawk were screwed again and Chicago never forgave NWA who lost loads of fans over this. I'm sure old school AWA fans could tell similar stories about Nick Bockwinkle vs. Hulk Hogan. 10)Hogan didn't want to look bad by beeing the last man eliminated,Hogan vs Zeus was actually the original WM6 plan. I'm glad we got Hogan vs. Warrior at WM6. Hogan vs. Perfect was a keyfabe mismatch at the time. Had they gone with Hogan vs. Zeus it would have been sweet if they had Hogan and Perfect in there in the end with Zeus coming down and just ripping Hogan out of the ring. Perfect could brag about winning the Rumble, Hogan fans would be focusing on Zeus and no one would lose heat.
deancoles Posted December 10, 2003 Report Posted December 10, 2003 I heard that Perfect received the ic title in exchange for not winning the Rumble and for losing to Beefcake at wm6.
cawthon777 Posted December 10, 2003 Report Posted December 10, 2003 I heard that Perfect received the ic title in exchange for not winning the Rumble and for losing to Beefcake at wm6. Just to turn around and lose it to Beefcake at Summer Slam? That's not much of a career boost. I gotta say - had Beefcake not gone out with the injury, 1990 would not have been that great of a year for Perfect.
tekcop Posted December 11, 2003 Report Posted December 11, 2003 (edited) 9) Who's neck did Marty Janetty break with the Rocker Dropper? Chuck Austin.... but I thought it was Shawn and it was his back that was broken. Maybe I'm wrong. Edited December 11, 2003 by tekcop
Guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Posted December 11, 2003 7.) I honestly can say that I thought Cactus would win the Hell in a Cell at No Way Out but not the Rumble match. And he has stayed true to his word.....(almost).
deancoles Posted December 11, 2003 Report Posted December 11, 2003 I heard that Perfect received the ic title in exchange for not winning the Rumble and for losing to Beefcake at wm6. Just to turn around and lose it to Beefcake at Summer Slam? That's not much of a career boost. I gotta say - had Beefcake not gone out with the injury, 1990 would not have been that great of a year for Perfect. I wonder what perfect would have done after the Rematches with Beefcake?
cawthon777 Posted December 11, 2003 Report Posted December 11, 2003 9) Who's neck did Marty Janetty break with the Rocker Dropper? Chuck Austin.... but I thought it was Shawn and it was his back that was broken. Maybe I'm wrong. WWF @ Tampa, FL - SunDome - December 11, 1990 WWF Superstars taping: Shawn Michaels & Marty Jannetty defeated Charles Austin & the Genius when Jannetty pinned Austin with the Rocker Dropper and flying fistdrop; Austin prepared for the Rocker Dropper incorrectly, resulting in a broken neck; as a result, the match was never televised; Austin sued and beat the WWF in a highly publicized case in the mid 1990s
tekcop Posted December 11, 2003 Report Posted December 11, 2003 9) Who's neck did Marty Janetty break with the Rocker Dropper? Chuck Austin.... but I thought it was Shawn and it was his back that was broken. Maybe I'm wrong. WWF @ Tampa, FL - SunDome - December 11, 1990 WWF Superstars taping: Shawn Michaels & Marty Jannetty defeated Charles Austin & the Genius when Jannetty pinned Austin with the Rocker Dropper and flying fistdrop; Austin prepared for the Rocker Dropper incorrectly, resulting in a broken neck; as a result, the match was never televised; Austin sued and beat the WWF in a highly publicized case in the mid 1990s Oh. Well, at least I got his name right.
Betty Houle Posted December 11, 2003 Report Posted December 11, 2003 Are we sure about Mr.P being slated to win that Rumble? Or that Hogan-Zeus was being planned for WM6? I thought those were urban myths...
Robert Posted December 12, 2003 Report Posted December 12, 2003 Ok, I didn't order KOTR 95. What the hell happened?! Did Nash botch something? Mabel squash a fan? What the hell happened. I need awnsers!
The Amazing Rando Posted December 12, 2003 Report Posted December 12, 2003 KOTR 95 was just BAD. Savio Vega main-eventing is not a good thing.
deancoles Posted December 12, 2003 Report Posted December 12, 2003 King Of The ring gets most of it's hate because you Have The Undertaker,Shawn Michaels and even Yokozuna in the tournament yet Fucking Mabel wins it.
ChrisMWaters Posted December 12, 2003 Report Posted December 12, 2003 King Of The ring gets most of it's hate because you Have The Undertaker,Shawn Michaels and even Yokozuna in the tournament yet Fucking Mabel wins it. Would you rather have had Savio win it? But yeah, Undertaker: King of Darkness would have been cool. THat's what I was pulling for that year.
Guest Indikator Posted December 12, 2003 Report Posted December 12, 2003 I liked the Shawn vs. Kama match - what did you guys think of it? Savio wasn´t that bad, but he has the problem that he needs a good opponent. Poor Savio, two big main events in his life and then deportation into meaningless matches
JN News Posted December 12, 2003 Report Posted December 12, 2003 Of course Animal & Hawk were screwed again and Chicago never forgave NWA who lost loads of fans over this. So, who can we really blame in the NWA for the Road Warriors getting screwed in they're own hometown of Chicago? Arn? Tully? Flair? Crockett? Who?
cawthon777 Posted December 12, 2003 Report Posted December 12, 2003 So, who can we really blame in the NWA for the Road Warriors getting screwed in they're own hometown of Chicago? Arn? Tully? Flair? Crockett? Who? Well the match did have the "DUSTY finish"
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