Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 11, 2003 Okay, we can’t change the fact that Randy Orton is going to be pushed no matter what. We also can’t change that he simply isn’t very good in the ring. One thing that can change, however, is his total lack of heat. Since we’re in it for the long haul (barring injury) with Orton, we might as well try and think up ways that they can actually get the oaf some real, consistent heat. He will still be bad in the ring, and still be shoved down our throats, but he will at least be over. So, can anyone think of a surefire way to get Randy Orton some good heel heat? We have to take into account that he has almost Test like ability to get surething heat grabbing angles and get silence. But, that doesn’t mean we can’t think of something new an original (and then bitch when WWE doesn’t do it) to FINALLY get this guy a little heat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2003 He should beat whatever wrestler's hometown they are in that week. That way...the crowd will boo...giving the illusion that he's always over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2003 Make him gay. It semi-worked for Billy Gunn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2003 Teddy Long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldSchoolWrestling 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2003 I think they need to make him a face by having Evolution kick the ever loving shit out of him. In a cage, ala the 4horsemen beatdown on Dusty Rhodes where they broke Dusty's leg. Have him out of action for a few weeks selling it, learning some skills in the meantime. When he comes back, he saves a top face from getting a similar shit-beating. When he wrestles Evolution in follow-up tag matches, he plays Ricky Morton and continues to ge the ever loving shit beat out of him until after about 10 minutes of this he finally makes the tag and that face gets to clean house and earn the impossible win. It will get him and his partner over until he can do so on his own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 11, 2003 Make him gay. It semi-worked for Billy Gunn. I always thought he kind of was, in the "HBK" way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2003 give him back a heelish RNN type segment that just pops up out of nowhere...even in the middle of matches so that he can update everyone about his status... kinda like what OJ Hart was trying to do... And then he can act like he's some huge UBER-FACE...waving to the crowd, asking them to clap for him, etc... meh...I can't think of anything else... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHawk 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2003 Make him gay. It semi-worked for Billy Gunn. I always thought he kind of was, in the "HBK" way. That could explain why it worked so well, actually... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 11, 2003 Make him gay. It semi-worked for Billy Gunn. I always thought he kind of was, in the "HBK" way. That could explain why it worked so well, actually... I actally meant Orton, but Gunn to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2003 Play to his skills Give him the first Lex Luger gimmick, a cocky asshole who thinks he is god's gift to women and loves the way he looks more than anyone ever could. Have him talk in the third person when talking about himself as well. Drop the Legend Killer bullshit since he hasn't killed one damn legend. I could do a Hawk joke here, but I refrained cause that would be cruel and cold and...well, I'm not established enough to try it. Then give him a female valet, possibly that Diva search woman, who cares a mirror around for him. And when I say mirror, I mean a full body mirror that she wheels out and then during a match he can throw his first opponent (Tommy Dreamer) through it so he can show he has a violent side. A cocky dick who loves himself but is also brutal? How can that NOT get him over? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2003 I think they need to make him a face by having Evolution kick the ever loving shit out of him. In a cage, ala the 4horsemen beatdown on Dusty Rhodes where they broke Dusty's leg. Have him out of action for a few weeks selling it, learning some skills in the meantime. When he comes back, he saves a top face from getting a similar shit-beating. When he wrestles Evolution in follow-up tag matches, he plays Ricky Morton and continues to ge the ever loving shit beat out of him until after about 10 minutes of this he finally makes the tag and that face gets to clean house and earn the impossible win. It will get him and his partner over until he can do so on his own. I think Evolution should kick Randy out of the group in the same manner that the Horsemen got rid of Sting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 11, 2003 Play to his skills Part of the problem is that he doesn't exactly have any. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Violence 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2003 Teddy Long. Supporton the Orton? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2003 Teddy Long. Supporton the Orton? I'm sure Teddy Long can think of something that would work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHawk 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2003 I think they need to make him a face by having Evolution kick the ever loving shit out of him. In a cage, ala the 4horsemen beatdown on Dusty Rhodes where they broke Dusty's leg. Have him out of action for a few weeks selling it, learning some skills in the meantime. When he comes back, he saves a top face from getting a similar shit-beating. When he wrestles Evolution in follow-up tag matches, he plays Ricky Morton and continues to ge the ever loving shit beat out of him until after about 10 minutes of this he finally makes the tag and that face gets to clean house and earn the impossible win. It will get him and his partner over until he can do so on his own. I think Evolution should kick Randy out of the group in the same manner that the Horsemen got rid of Sting. Wouldn't that require HHH to get the belt back and Orton to win some sort of tournament to earn a shot at it? It could get Orton over, but do we *really* want to see that happen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justsoyouknow 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2003 Teddy Long. Supporton the Orton? I'm sure Teddy Long can think of something that would work. Randy is dandy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2003 Teddy Long. Supporton the Orton? I like "Support the Ort" better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2003 I think they need to make him a face by having Evolution kick the ever loving shit out of him. In a cage, ala the 4horsemen beatdown on Dusty Rhodes where they broke Dusty's leg. Have him out of action for a few weeks selling it, learning some skills in the meantime. When he comes back, he saves a top face from getting a similar shit-beating. When he wrestles Evolution in follow-up tag matches, he plays Ricky Morton and continues to ge the ever loving shit beat out of him until after about 10 minutes of this he finally makes the tag and that face gets to clean house and earn the impossible win. It will get him and his partner over until he can do so on his own. I think Evolution should kick Randy out of the group in the same manner that the Horsemen got rid of Sting. Wouldn't that require HHH to get the belt back and Orton to win some sort of tournament to earn a shot at it? It could get Orton over, but do we *really* want to see that happen? I would prefer that it would be more like Randy is not living up to the Evolution standards. They would bring up the times that Randy screwed up and there has been many many times, but Flair (as Anderson) would say that Randy redeemed himself with the run in from a past match, but this time the run in made HHH lose the match and this is the last time we let this slide then Evolution beats Orton to a bloody mess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JumpinJackFlash Report post Posted December 11, 2003 How about him saying that he loves the fans. Have him be an UBER face. The fans will get so sick, they'll boo him. Hey, it worked for the Rock(i.e. Die Rocky Die). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted December 12, 2003 I never saw the RNN segments. I missed a lot of 2002 (I stopped watching right before H was awarded the big gold belt). Of course, I also missed Katie Vick and Torrie/Dawn/Al. Whoo! Anyway, are the RNN segments on Kazaa? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jester 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2003 First, get Orton away from Evolution. Now pump up that "Legend Killer" gimmick by actually having him kill legends. No, not like the HBK thing, but seriously fuck them up. Deliberately seeking out the very successful wrestlers and punking them out, and actually wining feuds moderately clean. For example, have him harass Austin. Constantly. Make Austin look like he's constantly looking over his shoulder. And even if Austin wins a few matches, Orton doesn't let up with the sneak attacks during promos, pre/post match...and have him do it right before Austin is able to do something the crowd loves watching Austin do (give the finger at the corners, drink beer). Now have him do the same thing to Undertaker. Yes, different brands, but Orton doesn't care. He sets his sights on legends, and goes after them until her gets them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2003 Send Randy Orton to Smackdown to play with Cena, TWGTT, Orlando Jordan, FBI, APA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jay Z. Hollywood Report post Posted December 12, 2003 Diva group orgy, with Randy Orton. Face/heel doesn't matter, Randy screws 'em all at once. Now THAT is over, baby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2003 we could fuse Randy Orton, Test, Mark Henry, OLM, and Shane McMahon together into one body... this wouldn't get anyone over...but it would drive AS insane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2003 2 Words, 2 Letters. Beat Up J R ... it worked for uh... uh... err... uhh... um... err... uh... SUPPORT THE ORT! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2003 we could fuse Randy Orton, Test, Mark Henry, OLM, and Shane McMahon together into one body... this wouldn't get anyone over...but it would drive AS insane You forgot HHH and the entire Red Sox team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2003 They could make hm Russian and call him Notroy Dnar - which is Randy Orton backwards! People hate people with clever names. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Neon Deon Report post Posted December 12, 2003 Orton IS over, you sluts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2003 Randy Orton needs a cowboy gimmick and a branding iron. Or maybe Randy Orton & Rob Conway should be tag team champions. Rob is anti USA govt and Randy got court martial or dishonorable discharge or AWOL in the military so it would be perfect. Orton & Conway = The Nu UnAmericans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2003 Maybe he can start up a one man boy band and call it Ortown.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites