What's your major?

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

For the love of God, can't we even have a simple "What's your major?" thread without a fucking flame war?

But what fun is that?...

[Slayer 0]

Face it, there will always be two types of people in the world when it comes to math: mathphiles and mathphobes.

 

And they'll never see eye to eye

[JJMc 0]

BS in Communications Media w/ a concentration on video production. This is only my first year, and it'll probably take me five to complete. AHHHHHHHHHH, no!!

[godthedog 0]

I think my dear that the point of my posts were clear. At least they were to everyone else reading. Maybe you're a bit slow with these things, being a Film Studies major and all. Don't worry, its not your fault.

 

Recap: Film studies is bollocks. That is all.

THAT'S your response?

 

...wow.

 

i mean, i'd argue with that, but you didn't give me any arguments to work with. not a single one.

I think my dear that the point of my posts were clear. At least they were to everyone else reading.

this is what most of us call a johnson argument. that is, a claim which essentially says "i'm right and it's obvious that i'm right," in lieu of an actual argument stating WHY you're right. please explain to me how the "lazy stupid drunks" point is really the same as the "job interview" point. i actually do want to know.

Maybe you're a bit slow with these things, being a Film Studies major and all. Don't worry, its not your fault.

and a personal attack, also in lieu of anything resembling an argument or an explanation. still running with the johnson debate style theme.

Recap: Film studies is bollocks. That is all.

and the kicker: instead of actually responding to or trying to refute any points that i made, you promptly ignore them and instead believe that simply saying "film studies sucks" again will somehow prove you right.

the transformation is complete...

 

WJM=johnson

 

you cannot argue worth a shit. it would be sad if it wasn't so funny. i encourage you to respond to this post & argue with me some more, so that i can keep doing this.

Despite their level of creativity and earnestness in taking the major, most film studies majors are lazy, stupid drunks.

eh...this just seems like a really weird claim to me. i mean, i know most of the film majors at my school, which is a school KNOWN for many of its students being lazy, stupid drunks, & there isn't a single one among them.

 

on a separate point, i'll agree about the math majors being creative as well (based on the little i know about them; anybody more educated on it, feel free to refute me on this). problem-solving is a creative endeavor, it's just something that involves systems and concepts rather than art.

Edited December 16, 2003 by godthedog

[Guest SP-1]

That must be why all the film studies people at my school are up all night in the editing rooms. Getting drunk and never producing the final products we screen.

[NoCalMike 0]

I am currently working on Associates Degree for Microsoft Systems Engineer/Technician and upon completion I will qualify to take the MCSE certifications test. Depending on how satissfied I am with this, I may stop there or go on to get a computer science degree...

[Mole 0]

I am studying Communication Broadcasting. I wanted to do film, but the film major also has theater and I hate theater.

 

My school isn't a very good with communications. They are only offering 5 classes next semester; I took 3 of them, 1 I am going to take and you have to be a senior to take the other one. Next year it will be.

 

The one class I want to take the most is a Documentary because I'd love to direct documentaries. I found out it is being offered this semester and I didn't even know that.

 

I'll take it in the fall, my senior year, and it will be a Cops type show, but a mock one towards Public Safety.

[Guest DVD Spree]

In fairness to both WJM and godthedog, both sides seem to be fairly well represented - there are many theatre/film students who have a genuine love and passion for the craft of fillmaking, storytelling and what have you, and invest serious time and effort in their study of it (visiting sets, working long hours on their own projects etc.).

 

By the same token, there are an enormous number of students in ANY field, most notably English/Journalism/Creative Writing/Media and media-related studies who are basically lazy fuck-offs. The reason there aren't nearly as many slackers in the more aademic fields such as Maths and the sciences is not because academic work is somehow more worthy or worthwhile than creative work, but the learning and application of specific formulas and practices is less flexible, less nebulous, and certainly leaves less scope for goofing off than the more creative arts that are based on personal expression and interpretation.

 

It's the same as anything artistic - here in England, the old joke is that everyone makes fun of an art qualification: "Oh, what kind of job are you going to get with that?" Well, a job in the field of ART, DESIGN, OR ILLUSTRATION. Yes, indolent slackers and no-hopers DO often take courses in vague, nebulous fields such as English or Media just for the sake of going to college, and consequently fuck about for four years and give everyone else a bad reputation. BUt I don't think it's fair to make a gross generalisation and say that "everyone who studies X is a worthless scroat." Just my two.

[Guest Cerebus]

I am currently working on Associates Degree for Microsoft Systems Engineer/Technician and upon completion I will qualify to take the MCSE certifications test. Depending on how satissfied I am with this, I may stop there or go on to get a computer science degree...

I would suggest it...unless I'm mistaking, it will be extremely difficult for you to get a job not related to your pretty narrow field, with a bachelors degree you have a better chance of finding another job should the unthinkable occur.

[Guest Just Looking]

BA History, Minor in Secondary education.

[welshjerichomark 0]

First of all, i'm not Johnson. I've been here for almost two years and i haven't got into an arguement until now. Also i'm probably much better looking.

 

Anyways, i could have spent my time coming up with a logical, rational arguement. But you are so highly strung, i just couldn't pass up such a golden oppurtunity to take the piss. And calling me an <<ignorant little shit>> right off the bat isn't exactly going to earn you any brownie points now is it?

 

Okay so lets address this,

 

Re: <<lazy, stupid drunks>>maybe its different over there, but it seems to me that the one of the biggest purposes of Uni is to allow students to drink copius amounts of alcohol. Unfortunatly, if you are doing a degree in say, medicine or actuary you probably wouldn't have a lot of time to get pissed. But with a Film Studies course for example, you can turn up to class, copy a few notes and then go down the pub. Its a fact that you only need average grades to do Film Studies, otherwise universities like Oxford, Cambridge, Bristol and Durham would offer the course. They don't.

 

Re the fact that a Film Studies major doesn't offer many career oppurtunities. Teaching Film studies is not a job for life, there isn't much of a demand for them. Think about, if a college/school didn't have enough Maths teachers, they'd have to put their price up until they could recruit some. Demand for Film studies teachers is rather elastic, if they were short of students or teachers then they'd just stop offering in the course. Its a fashionable subject at the moment, no doubt about that, but i really don't think its permenant. A few years ago every school needed a sewing/needle work teacher. I very much doubt that there's any demand for them now. Maybe i'm wrong, but to me it seems to be a bit of a fad. As for making films, well thats all well and good, i want to own a nightclub when i grow up but i'm not going to be taking a Bsc in "Running a nightclub".

 

We can argue about this until the cows come home and its doubtful that either of us are going to give an inch. But what i will say is, there are many many people who have the same opinion as me. When i was choosing my classes for this year, i jokingly suggested that i might take Film Studies, my mother thought that was such a stupid idea that she was about to pick up the prospectus and hit me over the head with it. Also, i suggested taking Business studies to my uncles and they both told me to take more acedemic subjects because thats what employers look for. Also, these days everyone and their dogs has a degree of some kind, the competition for jobs is more fierce than ever. When you go out to find a job, you'll not only be competing with Film Studies graduates, but a bunch of other graduates as well. Its very likely that you'll end up losing a job to a Physics/Maths/IT graduate because those degrees teach you more about logic and problem solving etc.

 

So yeah that's my arguement against Film Studies, i could go on and tell you some facts about the people i know who are taking Film Studies, but its pretty easy to dispute and what applies in a South Wales commumnity college may not be as relevent to you, because our education systems up to the age of 18 are very different.

 

So that's me done. I was having more fun calling you an "arsey little twat" and all that, but i supposed i had to back my arguement up sooner or later.

[Ripper 0]

First of all, i'm not Johnson. I've been here for almost two years and i haven't got into an arguement until now. Also i'm probably much better looking.

 

Anyways, i could have spent my time coming up with a logical, rational arguement. But you are so highly strung, i just couldn't pass up such a golden oppurtunity to take the piss. And calling me an <<ignorant little shit>> right off the bat isn't exactly going to earn you any brownie points now is it?

 

Okay so lets address this,

 

Re: <<lazy, stupid drunks>>maybe its different over there, but it seems to me that the one of the biggest purposes of Uni is to allow students to drink copius amounts of alcohol. Unfortunatly, if you are doing a degree in say, medicine or actuary you probably wouldn't have a lot of time to get pissed. But with a Film Studies course for example, you can turn up to class, copy a few notes and then go down the pub. Its a fact that you only need average grades to do Film Studies, otherwise universities like Oxford, Cambridge, Bristol and Durham would offer the course. They don't.

 

Re the fact that a Film Studies major doesn't offer many career oppurtunities. Teaching Film studies is not a job for life, there isn't much of a demand for them. Think about, if a college/school didn't have enough Maths teachers, they'd have to put their price up until they could recruit some. Demand for Film studies teachers is rather elastic, if they were short of students or teachers then they'd just stop offering in the course. Its a fashionable subject at the moment, no doubt about that, but i really don't think its permenant. A few years ago every school needed a sewing/needle work teacher. I very much doubt that there's any demand for them now. Maybe i'm wrong, but to me it seems to be a bit of a fad. As for making films, well thats all well and good, i want to own a nightclub when i grow up but i'm not going to be taking a Bsc in "Running a nightclub".

 

We can argue about this until the cows come home and its doubtful that either of us are going to give an inch. But what i will say is, there are many many people who have the same opinion as me. When i was choosing my classes for this year, i jokingly suggested that i might take Film Studies, my mother thought that was such a stupid idea that she was about to pick up the prospectus and hit me over the head with it. Also, i suggested taking Business studies to my uncles and they both told me to take more acedemic subjects because thats what employers look for. Also, these days everyone and their dogs has a degree of some kind, the competition for jobs is more fierce than ever. When you go out to find a job, you'll not only be competing with Film Studies graduates, but a bunch of other graduates as well. Its very likely that you'll end up losing a job to a Physics/Maths/IT graduate because those degrees teach you more about logic and problem solving etc.

 

So yeah that's my arguement against Film Studies, i could go on and tell you some facts about the people i know who are taking Film Studies, but its pretty easy to dispute and what applies in a South Wales commumnity college may not be as relevent to you, because our education systems up to the age of 18 are very different.

 

So that's me done. I was having more fun calling you an "arsey little twat" and all that, but i supposed i had to back my arguement up sooner or later.

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You are MUCH better looking than Johnson.

[godthedog 0]

First of all, i'm not Johnson. I've been here for almost two years and i haven't got into an arguement until now. Also i'm probably much better looking.

 

Anyways, i could have spent my time coming up with a logical, rational arguement. But you are so highly strung, i just couldn't pass up such a golden oppurtunity to take the piss. And calling me an <<ignorant little shit>> right off the bat isn't exactly going to earn you any brownie points now is it?

taking the piss instead of presenting an actual argument just makes you look like an ignorant little shit. if you don't back up your claims, it will be assumed that you can't back them up. that's just the nature of debate.

 

Re: <<lazy, stupid drunks>>maybe its different over there, but it seems to me that the one of the biggest purposes of Uni is to allow students to drink copius amounts of alcohol. Unfortunatly, if you are doing a degree in say, medicine or actuary you probably wouldn't have a lot of time to get pissed. But with a Film Studies course for example, you can turn up to class, copy a few notes and then go down the pub.

it is very different. i spent 3 solid days studying for my film history final, and my biology major roommate spent his weekend before finals watching sports, drinking beer at the apartment, then going downtown to drink more beer. on the whole, at my school, the film studies majors tend to frankly be much dorkier than the science majors.

Its a fact that you only need average grades to do Film Studies, otherwise universities like Oxford, Cambridge, Bristol and Durham would offer the course. They don't.

um...no, that's not a fact. our film studies program only takes the serious kids, to even declare it as a major you need to be at least a junior with a 3.0 average; that's not a HUGE feat, but it does weed out the slackers, and it's a requirement that biology & chemistry majors don't have.

Re the fact that a Film Studies major doesn't offer many career oppurtunities. Teaching Film studies is not a job for life, there isn't much of a demand for them.

this seems like a very odd claim, as i know several professors who have spent their entire lives teaching film studies. and the demand is increasing faster than the supply, which gives me a sizable chance.

Also, these days everyone and their dogs has a degree of some kind, the competition for jobs is more fierce than ever. When you go out to find a job, you'll not only be competing with Film Studies graduates, but a bunch of other graduates as well. Its very likely that you'll end up losing a job to a Physics/Maths/IT graduate because those degrees teach you more about logic and problem solving etc.

that's what my philosophy major is for.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Is it not clear to people that EVERYONE fucks off in college? At least to some degree. If not, you're seriously wasting your money.

 

I'm not even going to touch gtd's major with a ten foot pole because I've cracked on him for it before, but if you know what you want to do, and know what degree you need to get it, you're already ahead of the pack.

 

Regarding mathphobes and mathphiles, I don't know which group I fall into. I have a creepy kind of Rainman knack with the simpler material, which endears itself to applied sciences, but when you start talking theoretical stuff, I'm totally lost. I basically took my Chem major because it's what I'm good at, and the curriculum at my school was shockingly close to the Pre-med program, which was my financially unfeasable goal. More than likely, when I go back, I'll end up graduating with a 4 year degree focusing on organic, and get a job whipping up polymers for someone and acid on the side.

[welshjerichomark 0]

Okay gtd, can't we just put it down to a difference in opinion, and also a difference in countries. I don't want to get started on the "In my country....." shit, but maybe that has got a bit to do with it.

[Slayer 0]

In my country, subject majors in you

[welshjerichomark 0]