Goldberg Unhappy.....Again

[Lil' Bitch 0]

The fact of the matter is that he ISN'T being booked correctly. I know, everybody is gonna get their panties in an uproar. I don't even necessarily like the guy, but if they are gonna have him in the company they should at least book them correctly.

 

And having us to endure 2 minute matches again? No thanks.

[Downhome 0]

When he had the title though, they didn't do shit with any storyline, they didn't put any thought into it.

Hey now, I liked the bounty storyline. It just didn't go as far as it should have.

I don't know if you are being serious or not, but I liked that also. I liked the idea, I liked the concept. I did not however like the execution of the storyline. It could have been something great, but they once again took a cheap out with it and in the end it was just another pointless short ass "storyline".

 

It's like they can't hardly stick with anything anymore long enough for it to REALLY payoff.

[Bruiser Chong 0]

Right, so Goldberg not being booked properly + him (allegedly) complaining about it + this coming from 1.con = FUCK GOLDBERG?

 

Just checking...

Yes, because so many people here are just dying to pull out the old "Fuck Goldberg" card, because I guess they think it's original or something, much like "Suck Bag" or whatever it is they call Orton is. I don't particularily care for either guy, but people wanna hate for the stupidest things just so they can use their unclever little nicknames for them.

[Guest Mosaicv2]

all of u know tat if Goldberg refused to jobbed the title to frickin Hunter... u know Vince will in fact fired him

[Bruiser Chong 0]

u know that this isnt aim dont u lol

[Guest Jimbo]

The fact of the matter is that he ISN'T being booked correctly. I know, everybody is gonna get their panties in an uproar. I don't even necessarily like the guy, but if they are gonna have him in the company they should at least book them correctly.

 

And having us to endure 2 minute matches again? No thanks.

Personally, I'd take 2 minute piss breaks over 10 minute punishments

[Guest Peter_Griffin]

Word backstage in WWE is that Goldberg is once again very unhappy with how he is being used by the company. Most feel that he is mainly unhappy because he had to drop the World Title to Triple H at Armageddon. While that might have something to do with his frustration, sources indicate that he is really unhappy over WWE not booking his character properly.

 

In WCW, Goldberg was pushed as more dominant than all his opponents, while in WWE he is often beaten down for much of a match before making a comeback.

 

Goldberg met with Vince McMahon at Armageddon and told him he is not happy with how he is being used. This led WWE to make many changes to RAW on Monday. The entire Goldberg/La Resistance angle was added to the show as a last minute attempt to please Goldberg.

 

Goldberg is also apparently unhappy that he is "only" being paid his $1.5 million dollar downside deal and not getting any bonuses. Of course, WWE is not really giving many bonuses to any wrestler since business is down.

 

Credit: 1wrestling.com

 

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Vince, just cut your losses and get rid of the guy. If it's been said once, it's been said a thousand times.

 

Fuck Goldberg.

If I were Goldberg I wouldn't be happy with losing the title, but I would get over it and not complain. The guy is getting paid to do his job and he should respect that.

 

As for complaining about character development, I would have to agree that he should be getting quick wins over people to get himself over.

 

Of course, the guy complaining about $1,500,000 is just fucking diabolical.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

all of u know tat if Goldberg refused to jobbed the title to frickin Hunter... u know Vince will in fact fired him

Please read the forum rules on grammer.

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

Goldberg is being used just fine. He was the first non-kliq "World Champ"

 

WWE is just trying to bring his character down to earth a little as opposed to being superhuman like he was in WCW. They're trying to make his character a little more realistic and that's fine.

[JN News 0]

Yeah, but did they really have to put the title back on HHH? Couldn't they have just given it to Kane? I mean, look at Kane now, he's ruined.

[JustJoe2k5 0]

Bill Goldberg was carried by Diamond Dallas Page to a decent match at Halloween Havoc '98, if DDP can carry him to a decent match then anyone should be able to. WWE should throw a couple of different people his way and see who works best with him.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

The fact of the matter is that he ISN'T being booked correctly. I know, everybody is gonna get their panties in an uproar. I don't even necessarily like the guy, but if they are gonna have him in the company they should at least book them correctly.

This post was followed up immediately with EdwardKnox's:

 

THe fact of the matter guys that the WWE ISN'T booking Goldberg right and he has a right to be mad. Which I know everyone is going to bitch about. And the sad thing is bitching is what he's going to have to do.

 

 

Echo, echo, echo......

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

Yes, because so many people here are just dying to pull out the old "Fuck Goldberg" card, because I guess they think it's original or something, much like "Suck Bag" or whatever it is they call Orton is. I don't particularily care for either guy, but people wanna hate for the stupidest things just so they can use their unclever little nicknames for them.

 

Anyone else have a feeling that if the reports were about internet favorites like Jericho and Benoit complaining about how they are being used that smarks would 100% behind them cheering them on. But, since it's not and instead it's Goldberg it's Fuck Goldberg.

 

Echo, echo, echo......

 

And you know what? The EXACT same thing can be said for all the "Fuck Goldberg" people to.

[Guest MikeSC]

THe fact of the matter guys that the WWE ISN'T booking Goldberg right and he has a right to be mad. Which I know everyone is going to bitch about. And the sad thing is bitching is what he's going to have to do.

I suppose you missed Survivor Series where he fought off Evolution ALONE and then pinned HHH cleanly regardless --- or where Brock Lesnar basically cowed down to him. Or SummerSlam, where he kicked HHH's BUTT and was pinned only after getting nailed with a sledgehammer. Or Unforgiven where he beat HHH clean. Or at Armageddon where he only jobbed after the interference of Armageddon and Kane choke slamming him in the triple threat match.

 

GB isn't worth the effort to "book properly"

-=Mike

[Guest T0rrent]

these are brown...I Specifically asked...

 

FOR GREEN!

 

as soon as Goldberg loses the title he goes in Bitch mode.

 

he seemed only to tolerate the company once he is champion but when he is not and he is nor Mr. Squash o Matic then he is not being used properly.

Personally, I think if it was anyone else but HHH, Goldburg wouldn't be bitching. It's no secret the two get along as well as two starved wolverines locked in the same cage, as well as HHH doesn't need the god damn title. Have it jobbed to Kane, Jericho, Hurricane, hell even Mae Young and he wouldn't complain and we all would have something new to complain about other then HHH fucked his way to the top of the company again.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

And you know what? The EXACT same thing can be said for all the "Fuck Goldberg" people to.

I don't know. Some of the naysayers have made some pretty good posts.

 

The guy got too much in WCW.  He doesn't realize how many people are busting their ass just to have a job and he was one of a select few who even got an opportunity to beat HHH.  Cut him loose and let him continue to pretend he's bigger than the business.

 

Makes sense to me.

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

I suppose you missed Survivor Series where he fought off Evolution ALONE and then pinned HHH cleanly regardless --- or where Brock Lesnar basically cowed down to him. Or SummerSlam, where he kicked HHH's BUTT and was pinned only after getting nailed with a sledgehammer. Or Unforgiven where he beat HHH clean. Or at Armageddon where he only jobbed after the interference of Armageddon and Kane choke slamming him in the triple threat match.

 

Or better yet how about when after GB won the belt almost all the focus was on HHH and getting "his" belt and the bounty thing. Or that even when HHH wasn't there JR and Lawler couldn't stop talking about him. Or when he had trouble fighting MARK HENRY and he didn't even get to pin him. Or when he got beat up by Batista. Or how about losing to a guy that was hardly on RAW the past few weeks but, then he just walks right in and wins the belt.

 

GB isn't worth the effort to "book properly"

 

Cept that he's over

[Guest MikeSC]

I suppose you missed Survivor Series where he fought off Evolution ALONE and then pinned HHH cleanly regardless --- or where Brock Lesnar basically cowed down to him. Or SummerSlam, where he kicked HHH's BUTT and was pinned only after getting nailed with a sledgehammer. Or Unforgiven where he beat HHH clean. Or at Armageddon where he only jobbed after the interference of Armageddon and Kane choke slamming him in the triple threat match.

 

Or better yet how about when after GB won the belt almost all the focus was on HHH and getting "his" belt and the bounty thing. Or that even when HHH wasn't there JR and Lawler couldn't stop talking about him. Or when he had trouble fighting MARK HENRY and he didn't even get to pin him. Or when he got beat up by Batista. Or how about losing to a guy that was hardly on RAW the past few weeks but, then he just walks right in and wins the belt.

Almost competes with him being allowed to go over Rock after not working a single televised match in the WWE. Or his ability to rather thoroughly dominate HHH for their ENTIRE feud. People act like Hunter buried the guy. Re-watch the SSeries ME. NOBODY can put ANYBODY over more cleanly than HHH put over him.

GB isn't worth the effort to "book properly"

 

Cept that he's over

And, God knows, his being "over" has led to a huge surge in attendance.

-=Mike

...and buyrates, right?

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

And, God knows, his being "over" has led to a huge surge in attendance.

-=Mike

...and buyrates, right?

 

The buyrate for the WWE Survivor Series PPV, headlined by Triple H vs. Goldberg for the World Title, is now up to 390,000 buys which is a solid number and WWE's second strongest buyrate of the year (behind Summerslam).

 

Credit: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

 

But, he was making the RAW belt looking like it meant something by defending it instead of just a belt that HHH uses to hold up his pants.

 

But, it's not like Goldberg had the belt a LONG TIME to judge how well he would have done overall.

[Guest MikeSC]

And, God knows, his being "over" has led to a huge surge in attendance.

-=Mike

...and buyrates, right?

 

The buyrate for the WWE Survivor Series PPV, headlined by Triple H vs. Goldberg for the World Title, is now up to 390,000 buys which is a solid number and WWE's second strongest buyrate of the year (behind Summerslam).

 

Credit: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

 

But, he was making the RAW belt looking like it meant something by defending it instead of just a belt that HHH uses to hold up his pants.

And that's HOW far above last year?

-=Mike

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

If you mean they've dropped you could say that about alot of the PPV's, ratings, etc so don't pin it on Goldberg.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

The fact of the matter is that he ISN'T being booked correctly. I know, everybody is gonna get their panties in an uproar. I don't even necessarily like the guy, but if they are gonna have him in the company they should at least book them correctly. 

 

 

And having us to endure 2 minute matches again? No thanks.

 

Personally, I'd take 2 minute piss breaks over 10 minute punishments

 

Unfortunately, half of those 2 minute matches were world title defenses...

 

[Guest MikeSC]

If you mean they've dropped you could say that about alot of the PPV's, ratings, etc so don't pin it on Goldberg.

So, he's not better than HHH in terms of drawing power, ring work, mic work, or putting people over?

-=Mike

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

So, he's not better than HHH in terms of drawing power, ring work, mic work, or putting people over?

 

Ring work yes cause even when Goldberg is wrestling 2 minutes matches he seems to put more effort then HHH does in long matches.

 

Putting people over. Lets see Goldberg was made a fool by the Rock in their feud, he got his ass beat by Mark Henry and Batista. Do you think that would happen to HHH?

 

In mic work both aren't really that good in and drawing power Goldberg has been on top in the WWE long enough to really tell.

[Bruiser Chong 0]

Almost competes with him being allowed to go over Rock after not working a single televised match in the WWE.

 

Rock was on his way out again, anyway, so what would be the point of him going over, exactly? Rock doesn't mind putting people over, regardless, but the fact that he was leaving right after the match would've made a Rock victory look stupid.

 

Or his ability to rather thoroughly dominate HHH for their ENTIRE feud. People act like Hunter buried the guy. Re-watch the SSeries ME. NOBODY can put ANYBODY over more cleanly than HHH put over him.

 

I seem to recall several instances where HHH looked to be the better of the two. Only recently did Goldberg begin to look like the dominant one. Before that, they were made to look evenly matched. And I don't think anyone was saying that HHH didn't put over GB cleanly and in a convincing fashion. Yeah a few naysayers popped up, but for the most part, I heard nothing but praises towards Trips for putting Goldy over.

 

But, it's not like Goldberg had the belt a LONG TIME to judge how well he would have done overall.

 

I won't say that GB as champion has dollar signs written all over it, because no one really knows. It's true he wasn't given that long to run with the belt. A few months used to be acceptable, but HHH and his insanely long reigns with poor buyrates and ratings resulting pretty much changed that.

 

And that's HOW far above last year?

 

That wasn't his point. The point was that SS was one of the highest-drawing PPVs they've had this year. HHH has been the headline of most of the PPVs they've had this year and buyrates were consistently poor. I'm not saying that GB's presence is what caused the high buyrates for SS, but you can't ignore the fact that two of the three PPVs where Goldy has headlined the show have been the two highest-drawing shows of the year.

 

I'm not a Goldberg fan by any means, but even I can't look past the fact that a Goldberg reign that should've gone at least until the Royal Rumble, was ended on Sunday, with the ironic thing being that he was the transitional champion to get the title from HHH to...HHH. Don't tell me Goldberg's gonna be getting the strap back, to justify HHH winning, either, because with him off TV for a month and then his contract up for renewel, there's practically no chance of that happening.

[Guest MikeSC]

So, he's not better than HHH in terms of drawing power, ring work, mic work, or putting people over?

 

Ring work yes cause even when Goldberg is wrestling 2 minutes matches he seems to put more effort then HHH does in long matches.

 

Putting people over. Lets see Goldberg was made a fool by the Rock in their feud, he got his ass beat by Mark Henry and Batista. Do you think that would happen to HHH?

 

In mic work both aren't really that good in and drawing power Goldberg has been on top in the WWE long enough to really tell.

GB beat Rock. GB beat Henry. Who HASN'T GB beaten?

 

HHH made GB look like a world beater, which is more than GB has done thus far.

 

HHH v Booker T at WM is better than ANY GB match in the WWE.

-=Mike

[Guest MikeSC]

Almost competes with him being allowed to go over Rock after not working a single televised match in the WWE.

 

Rock was on his way out again, anyway, so what would be the point of him going over, exactly? Rock doesn't mind putting people over, regardless, but the fact that he was leaving right after the match would've made a Rock victory look stupid.

They could've found SOMEBODY ELSE for Rock to put over besides the criminally overrated GB.

Or his ability to rather thoroughly dominate HHH for their ENTIRE feud. People act like Hunter buried the guy. Re-watch the SSeries ME. NOBODY can put ANYBODY over more cleanly than HHH put over him.

 

I seem to recall several instances where HHH looked to be the better of the two.

Name one. HHH would talk smack --- but anytime they were in the ring together, one-on-one, Hunter got his BUTT handed to him. Over and over.

Only recently did Goldberg begin to look like the dominant one.  Before that, they were made to look evenly matched.

GB looked like the ONLY reason he wasn't World Champ was due to a sledgehammer shot at SSlam. They never looked like equals.

And I don't think anyone was saying that HHH didn't put over GB cleanly and in a convincing fashion.  Yeah a few naysayers popped up, but for the most part, I heard nothing but praises towards Trips for putting Goldy over.

And I loathe BOTH guys, quite honestly. But, WHO has GB EVER put over in his ENTIRE career? Can ANYBODY name ONE guy in these, what, 5 years?

But, it's not like Goldberg had the belt a LONG TIME to judge how well he would have done overall.

 

I won't say that GB as champion has dollar signs written all over it, because no one really knows. It's true he wasn't given that long to run with the belt. A few months used to be acceptable, but HHH and his insanely long reigns with poor buyrates and ratings resulting pretty much changed that.

HHH is a horrible choice to be champ. Heck, I'd have given the strap to HBK and let him job to somebody besides Hunter.

And that's HOW far above last year?

 

That wasn't his point. The point was that SS was one of the highest-drawing PPVs they've had this year. HHH has been the headline of most of the PPVs they've had this year and buyrates were consistently poor. I'm not saying that GB's presence is what caused the high buyrates for SS, but you can't ignore the fact that two of the three PPVs where Goldy has headlined the show have been the two highest-drawing shows of the year.

 

I'm not a Goldberg fan by any means, but even I can't look past the fact that a Goldberg reign that should've gone at least until the Royal Rumble, was ended on Sunday, with the ironic thing being that he was the transitional champion to get the title from HHH to...HHH. Don't tell me Goldberg's gonna be getting the strap back, to justify HHH winning, either, because with him off TV for a month and then his contract up for renewel, there's practically no chance of that happening.

GB's griping is a big reason why he probably wasn't GIVEN the belt for a longer time.

-=Mike

[Bruiser Chong 0]

They could've found SOMEBODY ELSE for Rock to put over besides the criminally overrated GB.

 

I agree somewhat, but what's the point of bringing in the only really big name left (aside from Sting, I guess) and then doing nothing with him? Having him go over the Rock like that was just right, except they ended up screwing things up by trying to make Goldberg a more "deep" character, instead of a big guy who's just an unstoppable monster.

 

Name one. HHH would talk smack --- but anytime they were in the ring together, one-on-one, Hunter got his BUTT handed to him. Over and over.

 

How about the RAW where Goldy was to team up with Orton to take on HHH and Flair. Obviously that was an Evolution beatdown, but Trips was the guy who got in the most offense (even that shitty looking Pedigree). HHH has certainly done his part in getting his ass kicked lately, but before, he always just played off Goldberg as no big deal, which isn't the way you wanna act towards the guy who's supposed to be a monster.

 

 

And I loathe BOTH guys, quite honestly. But, WHO has GB EVER put over in his ENTIRE career? Can ANYBODY name ONE guy in these, what, 5 years?

 

No one said he did. I don't really care for it, but that's the whole point of his character. It pigeonholes him into being a one-note character, but that's always been the thing that's sold Goldberg.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Goldberg's off filming a movie.

[haVoc 0]

Many expect Goldberg not to be around for WMXX...

 

As reported yesterday, Goldberg is not happy with how he is being used by the WWE creative team. He had a meeting with Vince McMahon at Armageddon and caused many rewrites at RAW on Monday.

 

Many are now questioning how long Goldberg will even be with WWE at this point. The general feeling is that he may not be around for WrestleMania XX.

 

Triple H came down very hard on Goldberg at the agents' meeting on RAW this past Monday. The problem WWE has is that Goldberg is being paid a huge sum of money right now but they can't really put a lot of stock in him if he will be gone in a few months.

 

Credit: 1wrestling.com

 

Triple H, a true locker room leader.