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Guest wildpegasus
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I taped the show but haven't watched it yet. Please tell me that the Vince McMahon/Cat nonsense didn't come on at 8:45 and get the highest rating.

That segment probably was the Lesnar vs Moore match.

Guest PowerPB13
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Call it wishful thinking then...WWE needs SOME kind of major wake-up call...

 

-Patrick

Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes
Posted

Wasn't Brock/Moore past 9:30?

 

I didn't watch, but I think thats how late it would be by spoilers, unless I'm remembering long.

 

 

Cat/McMahon was around the 8:50-9:00 frame so.....it was in the 8:45-9:00 zone.

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Wasn't Brock/Moore past 9:30?

 

I didn't watch, but I think thats how late it would be by spoilers, unless I'm remembering long.

 

 

Cat/McMahon was around the 8:50-9:00 frame so.....it was in the 8:45-9:00 zone.

 

See?

Cat= RATINGS

 

Even the fans know he's the greatest.

Posted
Show got the rating it deserved...they're a long way from getting a steady 4.0

Can you smell the buyrate for Royal Rumble? That explains why it stinks in here...

Guest NewYorkFox
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Vince McMahon dancing with The Cat isn't bound to save pro-wrestling. Notice how Vince comes back after four weeks, and the ratings sink.

If they'd advertised Vince's return, the ratings probably would have been higher. Like it or not, the guy's a draw, and possibly the best character in WWE right now.

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***Like it or not, the guy's a draw, and possibly the best character in WWE right now.***

 

<checks the buyrates for WWE No Mercy, which featured the McMahon-McMahon match as the most heavily hyped of the evening...>

 

<checks the buyrates for WWE Vengeance, which featured McMahon-Gowen ALL OVER the Smackdown before it, a Gowen "Vince can't hold me down" Sunday Night Heat vignette for 15 minutes, and heavily co-promoted as biggest match next to 3-way main event>

 

<checks buyrates for WM 19, the McMahon/Hogan match, which got promoted over the other main events, was the COVER ART for the show, and had the longest promo-videos>

 

Vince is not a draw. Don't kid yourself.

 

The Vince-family bullshit has killed, or at least not allowed the ratings to grow, for months.

 

No one cares about Vince McMahon. It's not 1999. Stone Cold can't beat him up. He's old. He's boring. Let them wrestle.

Guest NewYorkFox
Posted
***Like it or not, the guy's a draw, and possibly the best character in WWE right now.***

 

<checks the buyrates for WWE No Mercy, which featured the McMahon-McMahon match as the most heavily hyped of the evening...>

 

<checks the buyrates for WWE Vengeance, which featured McMahon-Gowen ALL OVER the Smackdown before it, a Gowen "Vince can't hold me down" Sunday Night Heat vignette for 15 minutes, and heavily co-promoted as biggest match next to 3-way main event>

 

<checks buyrates for WM 19, the McMahon/Hogan match, which got promoted over the other main events, was the COVER ART for the show, and had the longest promo-videos>

 

Vince is not a draw. Don't kid yourself.

 

The Vince-family bullshit has killed, or at least not allowed the ratings to grow, for months.

 

No one cares about Vince McMahon. It's not 1999. Stone Cold can't beat him up. He's old. He's boring. Let them wrestle.

Let me put it annother way then. The fans give a fuck about him. He got a damn good reaction when he came out on SD. Hell, it was probably the high point of the night for a lot of fans.

 

McMahon overkill might be bad for the product, but in small doses and outside of the ring, McMahon is a hit.

Posted

Buyrates are low but the fans give a fuck about him.

 

Ok.

 

So the fans pop for him, I understand and will give you that.

 

The fans also pop for the opening match jobbers because the show is starting.

 

The fans pop for Jim Ross for some reason.

 

The fans pop for Booker T's entrance.

 

The fans pop for etc...

 

Just because the fans give a reaction doesn't mean it should be SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS or portrayed in MEANINGLESS SEGMENTS.

 

If Vince gets pops, then use him as Vince, RUTHLESS OWNER, in small doses. Oh wait, that's been done.

 

Instead we get VINCE MEETS SHANE, VINCE RECRUITS KANE, VINCE FIGHTS ONE LEGGED BOY, VINCE UNMASKS Mr. AMERICA, VINCE FIGHTS HIS DAUGHTER, VINCE PRAYS TO GOD WITH PREACHER, VINCE FUCKS SABLE, VINCE DANCES WITH CAT, VINCE DOES THAT...

 

Vince sucks. Get the fuck off TV, your gimmick is shot to hell. Stop trying to be funny or imposing.

Guest NewYorkFox
Posted
Buyrates are low but the fans give a fuck about him.

 

Ok.

 

So the fans pop for him, I understand and will give you that.

 

The fans also pop for the opening match jobbers because the show is starting.

 

The fans pop for Jim Ross for some reason.

 

The fans pop for Booker T's entrance.

 

The fans pop for etc...

 

Just because the fans give a reaction doesn't mean it should be SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS or portrayed in MEANINGLESS SEGMENTS.

 

If Vince gets pops, then use him as Vince, RUTHLESS OWNER, in small doses. Oh wait, that's been done.

 

Instead we get VINCE MEETS SHANE, VINCE RECRUITS KANE, VINCE FIGHTS ONE LEGGED BOY, VINCE UNMASKS Mr. AMERICA, VINCE FIGHTS HIS DAUGHTER, VINCE PRAYS TO GOD WITH PREACHER, VINCE FUCKS SABLE, VINCE DANCES WITH CAT, VINCE DOES THAT...

 

Vince sucks. Get the fuck off TV, your gimmick is shot to hell. Stop trying to be funny or imposing.

Your original point was that Vince comes back and the ratings drop.

 

You can't deny that Vince gets a better reaction than half the roster. You can't deny that heel Vince is oone of the most over and identifyable gimmicks on the roster. He's probably the biggest name on Smackdown at the moment, the only guy who fans of any point in the last 10 years recognises. People may not buy a PPV for him, but they sure as hell don't turn off Smackdown when he gets in the ring for a promo.

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