Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Samurai Jack Huh, I have never seen a whole episode, is it really that good? It's probably one of the best American toons of the past 10 years or so. It's a shame that it was cancelled, because Genndy really created a program that worked on so many levels, and incorporated elements from such an eclectic number of sources near perfectly, that the end result is a series which I don't think will even fully be appreciated until years later. If he's signed on to do a new Astroboy series, I have high hopes for it - though I know absolutely ZERO about Astroboy other than it's a landmark / legendary Japanese franchise. No, it's an Astroboy live action/computer graphics movie. Tartakovsky certainly has his hands full. The live action bit truly scares me. It's a shame that it was cancelled, because Genndy really created a program that worked on so many levels, and incorporated elements from such an eclectic number of sources near perfectly, that the end result is a series which I don't think will even fully be appreciated until years later. From TVtome.com There was a live action movie rumoured to be "in the works" but news of this has dried up, and we don't know its current status. -- I also heard that Tartakovsky would like to do an animated movie someday. There's never been any movement about that though that the end result is a series which I don't think will even fully be appreciated until years later You said it. Years later, it's going to down as one of the best animation shows ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Fucking Cartoon Network and their fucking 52 episode limit. Killed Home Movies, Killed Samurai Jack. I've downloaded ~48 of the 52 episodes of Jack. I find it ironic that you all are mentioning the older episodes of SJ as the good ones. They're fine and all, but they go SO much better. Watch Jack vs. the Maruaders, Jack vs. MondoBot, and JACK VS. THE ZOMBIES. Or Jack and the Zen Master, Jack and the Haunted House, The Birth of Evil, there are sooooo many great episodes. If you haven't caught any of these episodes, and you enjoy action cartoons at all, catch them. You won't be dissapointed. Wish I could talk longer but I'll still talk some anyway. Seen the MondoBot episode. Really liked that one. Voltron fans should check this one out. Mondobot also looks like the main charactor from Metroid. That's what so cool about Samurai Jack. What other show does this? From TVtome.com the guy writing about Samurai Jack did a great job. I'll post what he wrote on here about the Mondobot ep: Episode Information Episode Number 39 First Aired June 21, 2003 Writer Bryan Andrews Erik Wiese Brian Larsen Jim Smith Director Randy Myers Genndy Tartakovsky Guest Stars: Grey Delisle (as Female Robot) Daran Norris (as Max) Synopsis Jack enters the abandoned city of Andromeda and finds himself under attack by a monstrous giant robot, the Mondo-Bot. Jack is initially defeated and rescued by local robots who believe he is the Chosen One. The city is built on a magical city of giants and Jack goes underwater to seek them out and finds a giant samurai robot which pulls Jack into it – the two merge. Jack's bot is resistant to everything the Mondo-Bot shoots at it so the two engage in an enormous close combat battle and Jack proves triumphant. Notes In the second "act" of the episode, there is NO dialogue whatsoever; in even in a series famous for long stretches without dialogue, this is odd (still, like the other times, it did not NEED dialogue to be entertaining). I don't think the giant samurai was really a robot. If that were so, then how is it Jack could even enter it? And why would certain parts of it be flesh-colored (Jack's skin)? Not to mention the simple fact that the feet were stone (or something like such). Watching this, it seemed natural to me that it would be the remains of a giant, or their armor. Jack was able to enter by means of magic, thus donning the armor, maybe even the taking over the giant's slumbering body. Either way it seems very out of place to call the giant samurai a robot. Remember, there is magic, and chi, and very old forces at work in Jack's world. Perhaps it was some ancient, magical device built by ancient artificers solely for use by samurai. I agree that it was probably not a true robot - "automation" might be the right word, but still, if it was, it would not be the first time in this series that magic and technology were mixed. I always just figured that the "thing" that Jack enters was a statue. In that instance it would seem more like a Golem-esqu creature. Thereby, Jack "is" the statue, and the statue "is" Jack. Cultural References Voltron: This whole sequence was doubtlessly inspired by the old anime series "Voltron" (and the numerous cartoon and live action "giant robot" series that came after it). Entering the Robot: When Samurai Jack locates the samurai robot under the sea, he enters it from a beam through his forehead. This was right out of the 1975 anime series "Brave Raideen" (who was also featured in the Shogun Warriors toy collection). Travelling by Sea: When travelling on the sea, the samurai robot resembles Daimajin, from the 1966 movie trilogy produced by Daiei (which was also a basis for the 1972 anime series "Mazinger Z," which began the super-robot wave). Robot Leader: He is 'The One'. The leader of the robot survivors makes a reference to a prophecy that 'The One' will someday come and destroy Mondo Bot. Jack is that one. Parallels to the Matrix movie abound: * Survivors who live in the sewers beneath their destroyed city * Jack leaping through a glass window in slow motion and landing on a building rooftop * Jack awakening underground (or is it a dream) * Shells falling in slow motion as Mondo Bot blasts the Samurai Giant If you spotted any more, post them here. Red Robot Saving Jack: The shot where the red robot saves Jack after he falls from mondo-bot is obviously lifted from the scene near the end of The Matrix: Reloaded where Neo saves Trinity from falling from a building. Watch them both and the similiarity is clear. none: none The Mondo-Bot seems to be a homage to the legendary female bounty hunter Samus Aran of Nintendo's "Metroid" video game series. Both have red armor and the helmet is almost an exact copy. none: none To merge with a robot and become it, to also move like it and feel its pain, seems a bit similar to the concept of the Guymelaf mechas from the anime series 'Escaflowne'. Which ep is "Jack and the Marauders"? Never seen the zombie ep. YTV skipped over that one. Highland Posted: Nov 21 2004, 06:09 PM My favourite Astroboy memories? Let's see....The fight on the moon between him and Atlas, and the episode where they revealed they were brothers, that kicked ass. I know there're other good scenes, but it's the '80s version so I can't be expected to remember them that well I actually haven't watched that one in ages either but I do remember being really impressed with the fight scene. It had a lasting impression on me. 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EricMM 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Jack vs. the Maurauders could be named as Jack vs. the Ultra-Robots, or Jack vs. the Assasins, or Jack vs. the Basketbots for all I know Jack vs. the Zombies is what got me into the Jack series, especially the fight at the end. Find it, now. I'll send it to you over IM if you want, whatever the method, it'll be worth it. It's too good to miss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Is the Birth of Evil the episode where Jack fights his evil twin, and defeats him when he finally realizes the true nature of his darker half? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 No it's a much more recent episode dealing with the origins of Aku, and what happened before the first episode of the series. It won an emmy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Jack vs. the Maurauders could be named as Jack vs. the Ultra-Robots, or Jack vs. the Assasins, or Jack vs. the Basketbots for all I know Jack vs. the Zombies is what got me into the Jack series, especially the fight at the end. Find it, now. I'll send it to you over IM if you want, whatever the method, it'll be worth it. It's too good to miss. Apparantly it goes by two names. Samurai Jack - XVIII (Jack and the Ultra-robots) From TVtome.com Although the "official" name for this episode is "Jack and the Ultra-Robots", commercials for it refered to it as "Jack and the Marauders." Maybe someday I'll watch Jack vs the Zombies on the computer but I don't usually like watching TV shows on the computer so I tend to refrain from it. Don't even use instant messaging. Thank you for the offer. I'm curious about how many people are actually reading this thread and who you are. If you are reading it please just make a quick post saying that you are indeed reading. Thanks very much. All cooperation is sincerely appreciated. Remember this is now a Samurai Jack combined with an Astroboy thread so feel free to talk about Samurai Jack as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted November 24, 2004 Jack vs. the Maurauders could be named as Jack vs. the Ultra-Robots, or Jack vs. the Assasins, or Jack vs. the Basketbots for all I know Jack vs. the Zombies is what got me into the Jack series, especially the fight at the end. Find it, now. I'll send it to you over IM if you want, whatever the method, it'll be worth it. It's too good to miss. Hey, EricMM. I changed my mind. If you're reading this, would it be possable to send that episode by PM? I'm curious about how many people are actually reading this thread and who you are. If you are reading it please just make a quick post saying that you are indeed reading. Thanks very much. All cooperation is sincerely appreciated. Remember this is now a Samurai Jack combined with an Astroboy thread so feel free to talk about Samurai Jack as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Positively Kanyon 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2004 Hey guys... Haven't posted here in a while, but it's always good to see some updated Astro Boy news! Down here in Australia, the 11-disc Astro Boy 1980s set was just released ($189AUD!!) but I haven't heard about it being released anywhere else... What's the latest on the movie coming out, is it still live action? If you're curious about the box set, do a search on EzyDVD.com.au, you'll see it there... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted November 25, 2004 Hey guys... Haven't posted here in a while, but it's always good to see some updated Astro Boy news! Down here in Australia, the 11-disc Astro Boy 1980s set was just released ($189AUD!!) but I haven't heard about it being released anywhere else... What's the latest on the movie coming out, is it still live action? If you're curious about the box set, do a search on EzyDVD.com.au, you'll see it there... Hello, Positively Kanyon! I haven't heard anything about the Astroboy live action/CGI movie for a little while. I'll post a thread over at www.astroboy-online.com and see what's happenning. We kind of already got an Astroboy movie with the AI Speilberg movie. From the source themselves this is what's on the DVD set-- http://www.astroboy-online.com/forums/inde...f=1&t=779&st=75 Here is the final and complete listing.. its about 2 hours worth of quality viewing... all killer, no filler... • Original Japanese Episodes with English Subtitles: #1 The Birth of Astroboy #2 Astroboy vs. Atlas • Original 1960s Episode Sample: #1 The Birth of Astroboy • Alternative Angle Opening Storyboard Sequence • Original Character Art Gallery • Textless Opening & Closing Sequences Featuring Song Subtitles & Original Japanese Songs • Original Manga Cover Artwork Gallery • Merchandise Gallery • Japanese vs. English Episode Comparisons (Deleted Scenes) Featuring Exclusive Footage From the Original Japanese Episodes with English Subtitles • Character Profiles PLUS an Exclusive 24 Page Booklet full of heaps of interesting stuff, including a introduction by the President of Tezuka Production, and heaps of info about Tezuka himself and his creations and impact on the world we know today! Plus more artwork, episode listings, song lyrics, info on the Tezuka Museum, and plenty more WP -- IMPORTANT!! Seemed like a couple of people on www.astroboy-online.com had a couple of problems with their DVDs so we'll have to keep an eye on that to see if anything's up. These episodes are great -- • Original Japanese Episodes with English Subtitles: #1 The Birth of Astroboy #2 Astroboy vs. Atlas and are highly reccommended by me. I would like to get the set but I still want to see everythng in its original form and not dubbed. It's cool to have the first two dubbed though which have a lot of footage the Canadian dub (which I remember enjoying) or the American (can't say I like this dub) dub didn't have. By the way, can anyone comment on the French dub? Or the Australian dub? I've heard the French dub before but I never knew how good it was because I could never understand French spoken at a fast pace. Now, I forget lots of it too. Hey Kanyon, reading your name reminded me of that time Kanyon diamondcutted a random person on the street. When the camera was showing the arena from the outside in the corner of the screen you can see Kanyon from a distance diamond cutting a passerby. The cool thing about it was that it looked like the diamond cutting was something Kanyon did every day of his life because of the way the camera just barely managed to catch it. Do you remember that? Fantastic stuff! Take care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted November 26, 2004 Update time about the movie -- Doesn't seem anyone on the forum knows anything right now. THere does seem to a little more doubt among the posters that it'll come to fruitition right now. Of course that's just speculation. And special thanks to EricMM for helping a fellow poster out! I'm curious about how many people are actually reading this thread and who you are. If you are reading it please just make a quick post saying that you are indeed reading. Thanks very much. All cooperation is sincerely appreciated. Remember this is now a Samurai Jack combined with an Astroboy thread so feel free to talk about Samurai Jack as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Positively Kanyon 0 Report post Posted November 26, 2004 Hey Kanyon, reading your name reminded me of that time Kanyon diamondcutted a random person on the street. When the camera was showing the arena from the outside in the corner of the screen you can see Kanyon from a distance diamond cutting a passerby. The cool thing about it was that it looked like the diamond cutting was something Kanyon did every day of his life because of the way the camera just barely managed to catch it. Do you remember that? Fantastic stuff! Take care. Yeah Kanyon was hilarious! Hence why I use his name on various boards. My favourite angle was the whole "Positively" gimmick and he used to wear the blonde wig, it was unbelievably funny! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted November 26, 2004 Hey Kanyon, reading your name reminded me of that time Kanyon diamondcutted a random person on the street. When the camera was showing the arena from the outside in the corner of the screen you can see Kanyon from a distance diamond cutting a passerby. The cool thing about it was that it looked like the diamond cutting was something Kanyon did every day of his life because of the way the camera just barely managed to catch it. Do you remember that? Fantastic stuff! Take care. Yeah Kanyon was hilarious! Hence why I use his name on various boards. My favourite angle was the whole "Positively" gimmick and he used to wear the blonde wig, it was unbelievably funny! Yup, I loved it when Kanyon was imitating DDP. Maybe the best thing about it was that he managed to make fun of DDP but yet not make fun of him if you know what I mean. If I was DDP, I would've been laughing about it too. TOP 100 CHARACTOR LIST which as of right now everyone has not been disclosed. -- Let's hope Astro's Here! He should be number 1! Either him or La Parka From Bravo 100. Xena (Xena: Warrior Princess) 99. Adrian Monk (Monk) 98. Steve Urkel (Family Matters) 97. Dr. Zachary Smith & Will Robinson (Lost In Space) 96. Artie (The Larry Sanders Show) 95. Dr. Doug Ross (ER) 94. Vic Mackey (The Shield) 93. Maynard G. Krebs (Dobie Gillis) 92. Dale Cooper (Twin Peaks) 91. Caine (Kung Fu) 90. Herman Munster (The Munsters) 89. Lt. Martin Castillo (Miami Vice) 88. Jamie Sommers (The Bionic Woman) 87. Gomez & Morticia Addams (The Addams Family) 86. Maxwell Smart (Get Smart) 85. Napoleon Solo & Illya Kuryakin (The Man From U.N.C.L.E.) 84. Bob Hartley (The Bob Newhart Show) 83. Vinnie Barbarino (Welcome Back, Kotter) 82. Gil Grissom & Catherine Willows (CSI) 81. Will, Grace, Karen, & Jack (Will & Grace) 80. Jack Tripper (Three's Company) 79. Charles Ingalls (Little House On The Prarie) 78. Rob & Laura Petrie (The Dick Van Dyke Show) 77. Dr. Mark Craig (St. Elsewhere) 76. Ellenor Frutt (The Practice) 75. Ally McBeal (Ally McBeal) 74. Wally & Beaver Cleaver, Eddie Haskell (Leave It To Beaver) 73. Dr. Johnny Fever (WKRP In Cincinnatti) 72. Dick Soloman (3rd Rock From The Sun) 71. Dan Fielding (Night Court) 70. Niles Crane (Frasier) 69. David Addison & Maddie Hayes (Moonlighting) 68. Benson (Soap/Benson) 67. Rev. Jim Ignatowski (Taxi) 66. Carla Tortelli (Cheers) 65. John Boy Walton (The Waltons) 64. Jessica Fletcher (Murder, She Wrote) 63. Sheriff Andy Taylor (The Andy Griffith Show) 62. Det. Frank Pembleton (Homicide: Life On The Street) 61. Sonny Crocket & Ricardo Tubbs (Miami Vice) 60. Mork (Happy Days/Mork & Mindy) 59. Al & Peg Bundy (Married With Children) 58. Barney Miller (Barney Miller) 57. Rhoda Morgenstern (Mary Tyler Moore Show/Rhoda) 56. Mick Belker (Hill Street Blues) 55. Capt. Jean-Luc Picard (Star Trek: The Next Generation) 54. Rocky & Bullwinkle (Rocky & Bullwinkle) 53. President Bartlett (The West Wing) 52. Emma Peel (The Avengers) 51. Murphy Brown (Murphy Brown) 50. Sam Malone & Diane Chambers (Cheers) 49. Maude Finley (Maude) 48. Ted Baxter (The Mary Tyler Moore Show) 47. Carmela Soprano (The Sopranos) 46. Chandler Bing, Ross & Monica Geller, Rachel Greene, Phoebe Buffay, Joey Tribbiani (Friends) 45. Marshall Matt Dillon (Gunsmoke) 44. Cliff Huxtable (The Cosby Show) 43. Thomas Magnum (Magnum, P.I.) 42. Laverne DeFazio & Shirley Feeney (Laverne & Shirley) 41. The Barone Family (Everybody Loves Raymond) 40. Fred Sanford (Sanford and Son) 39. Kojak (Kojak) 38. Sgt. Ernie Bilko (The Phil Silvers Show) 37. Dr. Marcus Welby (Marcus Welby, M.D.) 36. Barney Fife (The Andy Griffith Show) 35. Lou Grant (The Mary Tyler Moore Show) 34. Kermit The Frog & Miss Piggy (The Muppet Show) 33. Bret Maverick (Maverick) 32. Fox Mulder & Dana Scully (The X-Files) 31. Samantha Stevens (Bewitched) 30. Lennie Briscoe (Law & Order) 29. Alex P. Keaton (Family Ties) 28. Perry Mason (Perry Mason) 27. Ann Marie (That Girl) 26. Frasier Crane (Cheers/Frasier) 25. Sgt. Joe Friday (Dragnet) 24. Louie DePalma (Taxi) 23. Andy Sipowicz (NYPD Blue) 22. Dr. Richard Kimble (The Fugitive) 21. Mr. Spock (Star Trek) WP -- Mr. Spock at 21?? What kind of list is this? He has to be at least top 5. Gotta go now. I'll be back later. Same WP time. Same WP thread. Same WP channel. I'm curious about how many people are actually reading this thread and who you are. If you are reading it please just make a quick post saying that you are indeed reading. Thanks very much. All cooperation is sincerely appreciated. Remember this is now a Samurai Jack combined with an Astroboy thread so feel free to talk about Samurai Jack as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted November 29, 2004 Here it is. THe rest of the list. No Astroboy however which is a shame.. 20. Ed Norton (The Honeymooners) 19. Eric Cartman (South Park) 18. Roseanne Conner (Roseanne) 17. Jim Rockford (The Rockford Files) 16. George Jefferson (The Jeffersons) 15. J. R. Ewing (Dallas) 14. Hawkeye Pierce (M*A*S*H) 13. Buffy (Buffy The Vampire Slayer) 12. Edith Bunker (All In The Family) 11. Carrie Bradshaw (Sex In The City) 10. Tony Soprano (The Soprano) 9. Capt. James T. Kirk (Star Trek) 8. Mary Richards (The Mary Tyler Moore Show) 7. Lt. Columbo (Columbo) 6. Jerry Seinfeld, Cosmo Kramer, George Costanza, Elaine Bennes (Seinfeld) 5. Homer Simpson (The Simpsons) 4. Arthur 'The Fonz' Fonzarelli (Happy Days) 3. Lucy Ricardo (I Love Lucy) 2. Ralph Kramden (The Honeymooners) 1. Archie Bunker (All In The Family) Feel free to comment. I may do so later. I'm curious about how many people are actually reading this thread and who you are. If you are reading it please just make a quick post saying that you are indeed reading. Thanks very much. All cooperation is sincerely appreciated. Remember this is now a Samurai Jack combined with an Astroboy thread so feel free to talk about Samurai Jack as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted December 2, 2004 Some interesting discussion going on from here http://www.astroboy-online.com/forums/inde...ct=ST&f=1&t=918 which people might be interested in: Atoman Hi friends After watching all the anime of Princess Knight and doing some background research on the subject, I learned that in his childhood where he grew up, his heart was captured by the local all female acting troupe. He loved there plays with colorful costumes, scenery and atmosphere. So he decided when he was an adult to pay homage to them and write the first girls manga in Japan: Ribbon no Kishi(Knight of Ribbon) or Princess Knight in America. This must have been great for girls and women to read because it showed them that a woman can do anything that a man can do, but it also showed how there're discriminated against and abused, thus making people more aware an sensitive to the matter. Osamu Tezuka became a champion of womens rights. His message in the story isn't just love all creatures, but that women should be given equal rights with men. Princess Sapphire is a tomboy like Astro's sister Uran, but she's more vunrable because she's only human and thus she's more abused than Uran. When she suffered, I suffered with her. Like when she was taken away to Egypt to be sold into slavery. I was angry and I wanted to jump in there and beat up those guys and say "Leave the poor girl alone, you scum!" I think Tezuka was trying to expose the abuse of women around the world. The story may take place in the middle ages in Eroupe, but I think it was a medifore for the current Japanese royal family, who's female airs can't inherate the thrown. Look how the current Princess in Japan is suffering, just like Princess Sapphire. There're only now thinking of changing the law so that a women can inherate the thrown, just like Sapphire's father decided to change the law so that she could inherate the thrown as a female, no longer having to pretend to be a Prince. If they did change the law, then women all over japan and asia for that matter would feel impowered and liberated. I think most Tezuka heroines are either liberated women or struggleing to be liberated like Sapphire. There're never just simple subbordinates or housewifes. Look at Astro's sister Uran-chan. She may be small, but she's got 50,000 horsepower. Adult men don't evan have one horsepower. Fortunately she uses the power for good and fights along side Astro. All this proves that Osamu Tezuka was a man who understood a womens heart. His message in Princess Knight opened my eyes to the suffering of women that's still going on around the world, just as bad as in Princess Knight and in some cases worse. I've decided to do something about it. There's an annual Federal Charity drive at my office and I'm going to give to 3 different women's charity groups that will help end the suffering of women aroung the world. Thank you Osamu Tezuka and Princess Knight, you're both way ahead of your time. jeffbert Astroboy 80s The Time Machine also addressed the idea of a women inheriting the throne in a time when only men were accepted as rulers. In fact, it was Sapphire who played the women. WP -- Can't remember that episode at all. It should be interesting to watch just as all Astroboy episodes are. I'm curious about how many people are actually reading this thread and who you are. If you are reading it please just make a quick post saying that you are indeed reading. Thanks very much. All cooperation is sincerely appreciated. Remember this is now a Samurai Jack combined with an Astroboy thread so feel free to talk about Samurai Jack as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted December 7, 2004 Taken from the forums at the www.astroboy-online.com site. I thought it was interesting. dannavy85 Posted: Nov 25 2004, 05:41 AM Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 172 Member No.: 316 Joined: 27-June 04 I see according to the Manga Drawing book for Astroboy that the hip guns use 6.5 mm parabellum rounds with "caseless" Amo. I think Tezuka had to be the first person in the world to ever consider such a concept in ammunition because in the 1950's no one even toyed with the idea. I've seen a german squad machine gun called the HG-11 now that uses solid non-cased charges and since you don't have to deal with a troublesome spent shell recoil these kinds of guns can fire a maddening volly of metal (1,700 rounds) in under a minute. I don't think, given his size, that Atom could carry more than a hundred rounds in his trunk. WP -- Remember kids, guns are dangerous. Once you kill something you can not bring it back to life. I'm curious about how many people are actually reading this thread and who you are. If you are reading it please just make a quick post saying that you are indeed reading. Thanks very much. All cooperation is sincerely appreciated. Remember this is now a Samurai Jack combined with an Astroboy thread so feel free to talk about Samurai Jack as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Taken from the Astroboy forum Well, some more discussion on things Astroboy may have had an influence on. Atoman Posted: Dec 8 2004, 01:02 PM Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 118 Member No.: 374 Joined: 7-October 04 Konnichiwa tomodachi(Hi friends), Yes I'm learning some Japanese. I bought a Japanese textbook that comes with an audio cd and I'm gradually learning new words and sentence structure. Just today I was listening to the Japanese language version of Astro Boy and I actually understood some more words like Ju man means 100,000. I know what there're reffering to. Also they sing tomodachi, which means friend or friends. Well Astro is our friend isn't he. Anyway on to the topic: Warning Spoiler for those who don't want to know this episode. How many of you have seen the movie Dark City? It's a great movie, but it was originally an Astro Boy plot. It was episode 35 in both English and Japanese. In English it was called Planet X, but it's not availible on dvd or tape yet. In Japan it's called The Human Farm and it's availible on the dvd box set 2. I have it and watched it recently. It's one of my favorite episodes. Here's a summery: Four people(a boy, a lady, and two men)in what appears to be Metro City recieve letters telling them to meet in a park at night. They all meet there and then Astro appears and tells them that all is not what it seems. He offers to take them in a ride in his spaceship to show them what he means. They reluctantly agree. While there're flying above the city he tells them to look out the window and see that they are not on Earth, but another planet. They look, but at first all they see is Metro City. They begin to get angry with Astro and tell him off. Astro sternly tells them to just keep looking. They do and soon they see what he's talking about. Once outside the city the landscape changes radically. Now they see a bearin desert planet with tall valcanoes with rocket mines ready to launch if someone tries to escape. Now Astro explains some more and they realize the horror they've just left. They were kidnapped from Earth to be used as livestock for the alliens food. They begin to panic in terror. Astro smiles and reasures them that it's okay now and he'll take them back to Earth. But just then the rocket mines launch to stop them. When they explode they form a sticky web like a force field. At first Astro is able to break free but the mines are too many and evetually trap the ship. So Astro ventures outside the ship and lasers the gooey mess and frees the ship. YAY! Astro takes them back to Earth and straight to a hospital. There're ok, except the boy starts to cry, "Where's my mom and dad?" Astro reassures him that he'll find them. Then Astro leads a group of rescue ships to save everyone else from Planet X. Ohh my God! What a selfless hero Astro is. He risked his life all by himself to rescue total strangers. Man I love this little angel, and this episode is one of the most bizzare and unexpected ones I've seen. It really made me feel good. I liked it better than Dark City. Saionara!(Good bye!) WP -- I believe there are some Dark City fans in the Movies - DVD -TV thread here at www.thesmartmarks.com Hopefully they'll come in and discuss this. I'm curious about how many people are actually reading this thread and who you are. If you are reading it please just make a quick post saying that you are indeed reading. Thanks very much. All cooperation is sincerely appreciated. Remember this is now a Samurai Jack combined with an Astroboy thread so feel free to talk about Samurai Jack as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Monday Night Jericho Report post Posted December 11, 2004 I've just watched an episode of Astroboy called "Franken", after having found out that it airs on Saturday mornings. Its premise is about a robot that is abducted and stripped for valuable parts - only to absorb other robots to regain power whilst in search for its master. Any thoughts on this episode? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted December 11, 2004 I've just watched an episode of Astroboy called "Franken", after having found out that it airs on Saturday mornings. Its premise is about a robot that is abducted and stripped for valuable parts - only to absorb other robots to regain power whilst in search for its master. Any thoughts on this episode? Sounds like a neat concept. I haven't been watching the 2000 series though. Just a few eps. Liked it but didn't love it. I don't know, maybe I'm just an old grump who only watches old TV shows. Than again, I haven't been watching anything lately. Was the episode any good Monday Night Jericho? By the way world, I got my Astroboy DVDs back so I might be commenting on them sometime in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted December 11, 2004 Some names of the 80s Astroboy series and what they mean: Taken from the Astroboy-online.com site 80s series: Barbary (creator of Cleopatra): something to do with pirates. Goliath: the strongest fighter of the Philistines in the bible (David vs. Goliath). Inspector Randolph Holmes and Dr Winston: A variation of Sherlock Holmes and Dr Watson. Fireball: can turn into a fireball. Frankenstein: named after the monster from the book. Hercules: named after the Greek warior. Inspector Gumshoe: Gumshoe is slang for detective. Kybalt (from Robio and Robiette): In the original story, this guy was called Tybalt. And of course Robio is Romeo and Robiette is Juliette. Mayor Ballast: Ballast is a heavy weight used under railway tracks or at the bottom of ocean ships. This is a name that suits his size. Mt Blanc: The mountain guide. Mt Blanc is the largest mountain in France. Photar: The solar-powered robot. Light is made from photons. Prince Seigfried and Princess Odette: from the old story (can't remember the name). Professor Hyde: He ran Robot Land for kids, but it was secretly a weapons factory. He wasn't who he appeared, just like Jeckyl and Hyde. Professor Terrapin: A terrapin is a type of turtle, a fitting name for someone who escapes from jail by diving into the sea. Lilly on Peligro Island: Peligro is Spanish for "danger". Zeus: the name of the chief Greek god. About Livian: Her Japanese name is Lybian, but Livian is probably a better translation (there's no V sound in Japanese so they use B ). Now that I think about it, there's no L sound either (they use more of an R sound, but not quite. Something in between L and R). I'm not sure why Tezuka World came up with that particular spelling. The Japanese page has her name as ƒŠƒrƒAƒ“, which is pronounced roughly as Ribian. Anyway... Liv/Livi/Livia = Olive Tree (Germanic/Latin), Peace (Latin), Protection (Old Norse), Life (Scandinavian), Envious (Ancient Roman) Livana = Lunar (Hebrew) It's also the name of a tribe from Latvia prior to the 13th century, but that's probably unrelated. The most common match seems to be Peace, which is quite appropriate for her character. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Monday Night Jericho Report post Posted December 12, 2004 Sounds like a neat concept. I haven't been watching the 2000 series though. Just a few eps. Liked it but didn't love it. I don't know, maybe I'm just an old grump who only watches old TV shows. Than again, I haven't been watching anything lately. Was the episode any good Monday Night Jericho? I found it enjoyable enough, plenty of colourful characters and was pretty creative - although I have no idea how it stacks up to past episodes. I'll respect your judgement about the retro episodes being better. I've read some of the posts that you and Ray have made about stories and characterisation and I definitely want to check older Astroboy. I'll probably go on a d/ling spree soon (I plan on getting a better connection by January). What particular episodes do you think would be good for starting out with? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted December 12, 2004 Sounds like a neat concept. I haven't been watching the 2000 series though. Just a few eps. Liked it but didn't love it. I don't know, maybe I'm just an old grump who only watches old TV shows. Than again, I haven't been watching anything lately. Was the episode any good Monday Night Jericho? I found it enjoyable enough, plenty of colourful characters and was pretty creative - although I have no idea how it stacks up to past episodes. I'll respect your judgement about the retro episodes being better. I've read some of the posts that you and Ray have made about stories and characterisation and I definitely want to check older Astroboy. I'll probably go on a d/ling spree soon (I plan on getting a better connection by January). What particular episodes do you think would be good for starting out with? Decided to post the episode list here from the 80s so it'd be easily readable for a response here. Note -- Just replace 192 with 1, 193 with 2 and so on down the list. 80s series 192. 2-1 01-Oct-1980 The Birth of Astro Boy 193. 2-2 08-Oct-1980 Astro Boy vs. Atlas 194. 2-3 15-Oct-1980 The Robot Circus 195. 2-4 22-Oct-1980 Saving our Classmate 196. 2-5 22-Oct-1980 Astro Boy vs. Atlas II: The Resurrection of Atlas 197. 2-6 05-Nov-1980 Robot Land 198. 2-7 12-Nov-1980 Frankenstein 199. 2-8 19-Nov-1980 Red Cat 200. 2-9 26-Nov-1980 Astro Boy vs. Atlas III: Crystal of the Desert 201. 2-10 03-Dec-1980 The Vehicle, White Planet 202. 2-11 10-Dec-1980 The Robot President 203. 2-12 17-Dec-1980 Damdam's Neck 204. 2-13 24-Dec-1980 Lightning Man 205. 2-14 07-Jan-1981 Tomboy Uran 206. 2-15 14-Jan-1981 Robio and Robiet 207. 2-16 21-Jan-1981 Adventure on Mars 208. 2-17 28-Jan-1981 SOS on the Space Shuttle 209. 2-18 04-Feb-1981 Astro Boy vs. Atlas IV: The Menacing Comet 210. 2-19 11-Feb-1981 The Devil's Balloon 211. 2-20 18-Feb-1981 Pook in Cruciform Island 212. 2-21 25-Feb-1981 The Fool Ivan 213. 2-22 04-Mar-1981 The Robot Who Lied 214. 2-23 11-Mar-1981 The Girl from Alsore 215. 2-24 18-Mar-1981 The Biggest Robot on Earth (part one) 216. 2-25 25-Mar-1981 The Biggest Robot on Earth (part two) 217. 2-26 01-Apr-1981 Astro Boy vs. Atlas V: The Violent Gang Gadem 218. 2-27 08-Apr-1981 Major Operations by Black Jack 219. 2-28 29-Apr-1981 The Great Adventure of Little Robot Sam 220. 2-29 06-May-1981 Astro Boy vs. Atlas VI: The King of the Ice 221. 2-30 13-May-1981 Uran and Uran 222. 2-31 03-Jun-1981 Dash in a Storm 223. 2-32 17-Jun-1981 Cleopatra's Mystery 224. 2-33 01-Jul-1981 Astro Boy vs. Atlas VII: The Runaway Subway 225. 2-34 08-Jul-1981 The Little Elephant Pura 226. 2-35 15-Jul-1981 The Secret of Bee Island 227. 2-36 22-Jul-1981 The Monster of Kuraken 228. 2-37 05-Aug-1981 Rumy in Pochom-pochom Island 229. 2-38 19-Aug-1981 Astro Boy vs. Atlas VIII: The Destruction of the Satellite & the Proton Gun 230. 2-39 02-Sep-1981 The Stolen Sun 231. 2-40 16-Sep-1981 Black Looks 232. 2-41 23-Sep-1981 The Devil Garon 233. 2-42 14-Oct-1981 Hurry, You Three Second-Rate Knights! 234. 2-43 21-Oct-1981 Astro Boy vs. Atlas IX: Atlas Forever 235. 2-44 28-Oct-1981 Space Leopard 236. 2-45 04-Nov-1981 Uran's God 237. 2-46 11-Nov-1981 Space Airport R45 238. 2-47 18-Nov-1981 Spaceship in Imminent Danger 239. 2-48 25-Nov-1981 Jinmen Iwa 240. 2-49 02-Dec-1981 Uran Loves Hit Men 241. 2-50 09-Dec-1981 The Devil's Place in Ordin 242. 2-51 16-Dec-1981 Rage of the Sphinx 243. 2-52 23-Dec-1981 Astro Boy's First Love I was going to say it doesn't matter too much after a certain point but now thinking about it that doesn't seem to be true. This is the Japanese listing I posted here which is the correct order. The North American version is missing signifigant stuff at the beginning of their series. They also mixed up stuff such as having 215. 2-24 18-Mar-1981 The Biggest Robot on Earth (part one) and 216. 2-25 25-Mar-1981 The Biggest Robot on Earth (part two) at the end of the series instead of the middle of the series where it's supposed to be. In the case of this 2 parter though it doesn't matter. In the case of this series if possable I'd reccomend the Japanese version of the first 3 episodes. 192. 2-1 01-Oct-1980 The Birth of Astro Boy 193. 2-2 08-Oct-1980 Astro Boy vs. Atlas 194. 2-3 15-Oct-1980 The Robot Circus These tell the backstory of Astroboy, Livian and Atlas. It's crucial for the charactor development of Atlas. It lets you connect with him more and makes you understand why his charactor turns out the way it does. Hopefully, someone on www.astroboy-online.com has them for download on that site. The North American version is at least missing a full episode. With the North American version I would still watch these episodes first. I think there are only 2 eps here with the North American version to watch though. Kind of a spoiler if you've seen the Japanese version of the first few eps: If we look through the listings we have a continuing saga of Atlas vs Astroboy 193. 2-2 08-Oct-1980 Astro Boy vs. Atlas 196. 2-5 22-Oct-1980 Astro Boy vs. Atlas II: The Resurrection of Atlas And so on. Ideally it would be nice to watch these in order but I wouldn't lose sleep over it. And finally these are two episodes that everybody likes and as a wrestling fans we might even like them more since it's "all" about the fighting with diverse charactors here: 215. 2-24 18-Mar-1981 The Biggest Robot on Earth (part one) 216. 2-25 25-Mar-1981 The Biggest Robot on Earth (part two) Everybody seems to like these two episodes. In fact these were the two episodes growing up where if I had to list my favourite TV episode ever these might just have been it and Astroboy wasn't even my favourite TV show back than. I can't vouch for the North American version anymore but I do know I enjoyed the Japanese version upon rewatch a little over a year ago. Great imagination here. As with lots of other episodes I just wish they'd pull a little bit of a Dragonball Z and stretch out the eps a little bit. They just put so much stuff in such a little time space. 213. 2-22 04-Mar-1981 The Robot Who Lied I beieve is a favourite of Ravishing Rick Rudo's and I liked it too. The ending is one that sticks with you for the rest of your life. Very heartbreaking. 212. 2-21 25-Feb-1981 The Fool Ivan If this is the episode I'm thinking of it's fantastic. Astro and everyone in the space ship get stranded on a weird planet. Won't spoil it but it's great. 221. 2-30 13-May-1981 Uran and Uran Never seen this since the 80s but as a wrestling I thought I'd make a mention of it. Don't think there's too much focus on this but they have robot wrestling matches to the death in this one. 207. 2-16 21-Jan-1981 Adventure on Mars 208. 2-17 28-Jan-1981 SOS on the Space Shuttle I think but don't quote me on this that one of these eps is about a space captain who's upset that Astro a mere robot takes over his job. Fantastic ep. As usual lots of stuff to think about in just 1 episode. Basically, I've only rewatched half the series because I'm trying to hold out someday for the remaining half to be subtitled. The Canadian dub I remember not minding the voices but when I turned into the American dub rescently I must say I did. A lot of the episodes can be jumped right into though without worrying about seeing anything else. Every episode I watched was at least good. Even stuff that I thought coming in , "well this might be a little silly" knocked me in the mouth and blantantly told me the opposite. Now we'll take a look at the listing for the 60's series. Some of the eps have been described here previously so if interested anyone can look back and check them out. I've probably only watched 15 eps of this series but enjoyed probably 14 of them. Season 1 1. 1-1 01-Jan-1963 The Birth of Astroboy 2. 1-2 08-Jan-1963 Frankenstein 3. 1-3 15-Jan-1963 Adventure on Mars 4. 1-4 22-Jan-1963 Guernica 5. 1-5 29-Jan-1963 Sphinx 6. 1-6 05-Feb-1963 Lightning Man 7. 1-7 12-Feb-1963 Captain Atom 8. 1-8 19-Feb-1963 Ghost Manufacturing Machine 9. 1-9 26-Feb-1963 Black Looks 10. 1-10 05-Mar-1963 The Fool Ivan 11. 1-11 12-Mar-1963 Time Machine 12. 1-12 19-Mar-1963 Cruciform Island 13. 1-13 26-Mar-1963 The Eyes of Christ 14. 1-14 02-Apr-1963 The Artificial Sun 15. 1-15 09-Apr-1963 Plant People 16. 1-16 16-Apr-1963 The Vehicle, White Planet 17. 1-17 23-Apr-1963 Robot Land 18. 1-18 30-Apr-1963 Gadem 19. 1-19 07-May-1963 Astro Boy vs. Garon 20. 1-20 14-May-1963 Gaseous Beings 21. 1-21 21-May-1963 SatelliteR-45 22. 1-22 28-May-1963 Sea Serpent Island 23. 1-23 04-Jun-1963 The Mutant 24. 1-24 11-Jun-1963 The Submarine Kingdom 25. 1-25 18-Jun-1963 The Deep-Underground Tank 26. 1-26 25-Jun-1963 Atlas 27. 1-27 02-Jul-1963 Planet Pearl 28. 1-28 09-Jul-1963 Mad Machine 29. 1-29 16-Jul-1963 The Memorable Day 30. 1-30 23-Jul-1963 Fuhrer ZZZ 31. 1-31 30-Jul-1963 The Black Cosmic Ray 32. 1-32 06-Aug-1963 Hot Dog Corps 33. 1-33 13-Aug-1963 Two Magicians 34. 1-34 20-Aug-1963 Midoro Marsh 35. 1-35 27-Aug-1963 The Human Farm 36. 1-36 03-Sep-1963 The Religion of Pui Pui 37. 1-37 10-Sep-1963 Uran 38. 1-38 17-Sep-1963 The Disturbed Small Planet 39. 1-39 24-Sep-1963 Red Cat 40. 1-40 01-Oct-1963 Neo Caesar 41. 1-41 08-Oct-1963 X Bomb 42. 1-42 15-Oct-1963 The Yellow Horse 43. 1-43 22-Oct-1963 His Highness Dead Cross 44. 1-44 29-Oct-1963 The Egyptian Conspirators 45. 1-45 05-Nov-1963 Cleopatra's Necklace 46. 1-46 12-Nov-1963 The Robot Spaceship 47. 1-47 19-Nov-1963 The Cosmic Crab 48. 1-48 26-Nov-1963 The Tenma Tribe 49. 1-49 03-Dec-1963 Transparent Giant 50. 1-50 10-Dec-1963 Astroboy Goes to the West 51. 1-51 17-Dec-1963 The Little Elephant Pura 52. 1-52 24-Dec-1963 The Snow Lion 53. 1-53 31-Dec-1963 Goodbye 1963 54. 1-54 04-Jan-1964 Duel on the Alps 55. 1-55 18-Jan-1964 Rejuvenating Gas 56. 1-56 25-Jan-1964 Earth Defense Army 57. 1-57 01-Feb-1964 Robot School 58. 1-58 08-Feb-1964 The Thirteen Mysterious Statues of God 59. 1-59 15-Feb-1964 The Robot Buron X 60. 1-60 22-Feb-1964 The Demon Bees 61. 1-61 29-Feb-1964 Space Parasites 62. 1-62 07-Mar-1964 The Phantom Ship 63. 1-63 14-Mar-1964 The Artificial Iceberg 64. 1-64 21-Mar-1964 Count Bat 65. 1-65 28-Mar-1964 Brave Escapee 66. 1-66 04-Apr-1964 The Space Viking 67. 1-67 11-Apr-1964 Heroes of the Night 68. 1-68 25-Apr-1964 Rebellion of the Dinosaur People 69. 1-69 02-May-1964 The Secret of the Clock Tower 70. 1-70 09-May-1964 Rafflesia 71. 1-71 16-May-1964 The Last Day of Earth 72. 1-72 23-May-1964 7 Days of Drifting in Space 73. 1-73 06-Jun-1964 Big Titan 74. 1-74 13-Jun-1964 Earth Expedition 75. 1-75 20-Jun-1964 Flying City 76. 1-76 27-Jun-1964 The Monster Machine 77. 1-77 04-Jul-1964 Cape Town Lullaby 78. 1-78 11-Jul-1964 The World in Five Hundred Thousand Years 79. 1-79 18-Jul-1964 Dr. Brain 80. 1-80 25-Jul-1964 Humanoid Bill 81. 1-81 01-Aug-1964 Dreaming Machine 82. 1-82 15-Aug-1964 The Robot Olympics 83. 1-83 22-Aug-1964 The Strange Bird, Garuda 84. 1-84 29-Aug-1964 The Dolphin Civilization 85. 1-85 05-Sep-1964 The Demented Beltway 86. 1-86 12-Sep-1964 The Time Gun 87. 1-87 19-Sep-1964 Princess Kaguya 88. 1-88 26-Sep-1964 The Bacteria Corps 89. 1-89 03-Oct-1964 Gomes' Ghost 90. 1-90 10-Oct-1964 The Robot Fortress 91. 1-91 24-Oct-1964 Garon's Counterattack 92. 1-92 31-Oct-1964 Three Robot Knights 93. 1-93 07-Nov-1964 Cobalt 94. 1-94 14-Nov-1964 Angel in the Alps 95. 1-95 21-Nov-1964 The Evil Punch Card 96. 1-96 28-Oct-1964 Robot Future 97. 1-97 05-Nov-1964 Confrontation in Space 98. 1-98 12-Dec-1964 Zeo's Legacy 99. 1-99 19-Dec-1964 Little Columbus 100. 1-100 26-Dec-1964 The Robot House 101. 1-101 02-Jan-1965 The Unmapped World 102. 1-102 09-Jan-1965 Queen of the Devils' Place 103. 1-103 16-Jan-1965 Stairs Leading into Space 104. 1-104 23-Jan-1965 The Devil's Balloon 105. 1-105 30-Jan-1965 General Atom 106. 1-106 06-Feb-1965 The Boy from Outer Space 107. 1-107 13-Feb-1965 Release of the Earth 108. 1-108 20-Feb-1965 Saturn Man 109. 1-109 27-Feb-1965 Phoenix 110. 1-110 06-Mar-1965 Expedition on Mercury 111. 1-111 13-Mar-1965 Robot Polymer 112. 1-112 27-Mar-1965 Samson's Hair 113. 1-113 03-Apr-1965 "Back," the Country without Laughter 114. 1-114 10-Apr-1965 Metro Monster 115. 1-115 17-Apr-1965 The Big Runaway Safe 116. 1-116 24-Apr-1965 The Biggest Robot on Earth (part one) 117. 1-117 01-May-1965 The Biggest Robot on Earth (part two) 118. 1-118 08-May-1965 Robot Grabby 119. 1-119 15-May-1965 The Flying Lens 120. 1-120 22-May-1965 Time Hunter 121. 1-121 29-May-1965 Ganimate 122. 1-122 05-Jun-1965 The Monster Mantler 123. 1-123 19-Jun-1965 Captain Dog 124. 1-124 03-Jul-1965 Parting Gift 125. 1-125 10-Jul-1965 Find the Bacteria 126. 1-126 17-Jul-1965 Roboids 127. 1-127 24-Jul-1965 The Experimental Robot 128. 1-128 31-Jul-1965 Treasures of the Inca Empire 129. 1-129 14-Aug-1965 Atom vs. Atom 130. 1-130 21-Aug-1965 The Storm on Mars 131. 1-131 28-Aug-1965 The Moon Champion 132. 1-132 04-Sep-1965 Prince Louis 133. 1-133 11-Sep-1965 Revenge After Ten Years 134. 1-134 18-Sep-1965 Operation Escape 135. 1-135 25-Sep-1965 The Robot-Dog Backy 136. 1-136 02-Oct-1965 Inspector Jaguar 137. 1-137 09-Oct-1965 Little Cooley 138. 1-138 16-Oct-1965 A Long Day 139. 1-139 23-Oct-1965 Astro Boy Stolen 140. 1-140 30-Sep-1965 The King and Atom 141. 1-141 06-Nov-1965 The Locomotive March 142. 1-142 13-Nov-1965 Minya's Star 143. 1-143 20-Nov-1965 Bird Street Story 144. 1-144 27-Nov-1965 Lost Friendship 145. 1-145 04-Dec-1965 Atom in the Deep Sea 146. 1-146 11-Dec-1965 Report from the Future 147. 1-147 18-Dec-1965 Mid-air Screen 148. 1-148 25-Dec-1965 Robio and Robiet 149. 1-149 01-Jan-1966 The Can Capriccio 150. 1-150 08-Jan-1966 Miss Magnet 151. 1-151 15-Jan-1966 Lonely Atom 152. 1-152 22-Jan-1966 The Robot Bombs 153. 1-153 29-Jan-1966 The Red Merry-Go-Round 154. 1-154 05-Feb-1966 Blue Bird Story 155. 1-155 12-Feb-1966 The Crazed Boundary 156. 1-156 19-Feb-1966 Robot Mayor 157. 1-157 26-Feb-1966 Gypsy's Star 158. 1-158 05-Mar-1966 Funny Companion 159. 1-159 19-Mar-1966 Devil and Angel 160. 1-160 26-Mar-1966 The Golden Flute 161. 1-161 02-Apr-1966 Dream-selling Aliens 162. 1-162 09-Apr-1966 Operation Candy 163. 1-163 16-Apr-1966 Road to Another World 164. 1-164 23-Apr-1966 The Space Spider 165. 1-165 30-Apr-1966 A Great Fuss over Babies 166. 1-166 07-May-1966 The Jewel-Eating Monster 167. 1-167 14-May-1966 Plenty of Balloons 168. 1-168 21-May-1966 The Island That Jumped Up 169. 1-169 28-May-1966 Gift from the Future 170. 1-170 04-Jun-1966 Two Princesses 171. 1-171 11-Jun-1966 Kutcher Forever 172. 1-172 25-Jun-1966 The Herald Brothers 173. 1-173 02-Jul-1966 Robotty 174. 1-174 09-Jul-1966 The Great Submarine Canal 175. 1-175 23-Jul-1966 Robot Wars (part one) 176. 1-176 30-Jul-1966 Robot Wars (part two) 177. 1-177 06-Aug-1966 The Gigantic Robot 178. 1-178 20-Aug-1966 Chi-tan's Nighttime Adventure 179. 1-179 10-Sep-1966 Ghost Manufacturing Machine 180. 1-180 24-Sep-1966 Demented Cobalt 181. 1-181 01-Oct-1966 Japanese People from Space 182. 1-182 08-Oct-1966 Time War 183. 1-183 22-Oct-1966 Star of Africa 184. 1-184 29-Oct-1966 Monsters Come out at Night 185. 1-185 05-Nov-1966 Baily's Legend 186. 1-186 19-Nov-1966 Tengu of Kurama 187. 1-187 26-Nov-1966 Confusion at the Shooting Studio 188. 1-188 03-Dec-1966 Miracle of Mesopotamia 189. 1-189 17-Nov-1966 Wandering Roppi 190. 1-190 24-Dec-1966 Medussa's Mansion 191. 1-191 31-Dec-1966 The Greatest Adventure on Earth The first episode should be watched first and has been available for download on www.astroboy-online.com Never before have I seen a TV episode where so many things happened so fast (unless you count narrators talking/keeping the viewer up to speed) The last episode should be watched last because of what occurs in it but it's "not even available" in North America so I wouldn't worry about that. I've seen some good episodes here and have talked about a couple. Little of this series is available here in North America because of destruction of tapes. All film is apparantly available from Japan though so that's good. I'm not sure of the episodes which I've watched. The 60s series is just as serious with their messages and all that but they tend to have a few more childish spots in them. THe animation rate of course is not as high as the 80s series either. WP's random thought of the day -- Off topic but a question to anyone out there. Is there anyone who has a body with more passion than Kenta Kobashi? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Monday Night Jericho Report post Posted December 12, 2004 Once again WP thanks for your help. I really appreciate it (and I certainly haven't forgotten about all the Stampede info that you gave me, I have it saved and plan to get a whole bunch of it after New Year's). I have a passion for varied styles of entertainment and how each form has a different way of portraying its message or concept. It's always a treat to uncover new forms; opening a whole new world of moral fibre and story. I have not yet explored anime and some of those descriptions have really wet my appetite. "The Robot Who Lied" especially intrigues me... Off topic but a question to anyone out there. Is there anyone who has a body with more passion than Kenta Kobashi? Kobashi is surreal, in not only his athletic abilities, but his desire. Anyone who's familiar with his work will know that his "burning spirit" is no gimmick. Inspirational. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted December 12, 2004 Once again WP thanks for your help. I really appreciate it (and I certainly haven't forgotten about all the Stampede info that you gave me, I have it saved and plan to get a whole bunch of it after New Year's). I have a passion for varied styles of entertainment and how each form has a different way of portraying its message or concept. It's always a treat to uncover new forms; opening a whole new world of moral fibre and story. I have not yet explored anime and some of those descriptions have really wet my appetite. "The Robot Who Lied" especially intrigues me... Off topic but a question to anyone out there. Is there anyone who has a body with more passion than Kenta Kobashi? Kobashi is surreal, in not only his athletic abilities, but his desire. Anyone who's familiar with his work will know that his "burning spirit" is no gimmick. Inspirational. Stampede Benoit is tough to find. The more complete stuff from TSN anyway. I feel privilged to have the Benoit/Idol vs Commandoes series. I've gotten lazy about watching any stuff on the TV lately. Perhaps from being too jaded. I took to anime mainly because I'm a fan of animation (whiny boy like girls are getting to me though) and I loved the imagination of it. I also like collecting rare stuff. It gives me a sense of pride watching something that is not only good but rare. I suppose anime doesn't quite stick out as much as it used to because of all the special effects they can do in movies these days. Still, they'll always have my appreciation for being the first to show what the human imagination can really do especially since I started watching it before all the special effects started coming out. And trust me on this one. You will see imaginative stuff you'd never see in any other kind of medium. With anime there's something for everyone so if you don't like something make sure to check out something else. Grave of the Fireflies is reccomended by everyone as one of the most depressing movies ever. As a matter of fact, I think Ohtani's Jacket just reccomended as a movie that hurt him badly in his moive thread over at smarkschoice. Spirited Away is a joy to watch. Same with Princess Monoke. The first Dragonball series is just so much fun. For me anyway. Very imaginative and funny at points. I don't laugh at too much either. Maybe I just have a weird imagination. LUpin III, the Castle of Cogliostro everyone likes But evryone can reccomend films like this so I'm going to reccomend something different. Since we're all wrestling fans here I'm going to say something about one of the rarest animes ever. In North America at least. Tiger Mask -- the first series from 1969 -1971. Rooted in reality somewhat with talk about the NWA, charactors like Baba and Inoki and wrestling moves we're all familiar with. But still it uses the animation form to get away with stuff you couldn't do in a televised series. It escapes reality to a degree but never finds itself too far away with it. Never televised in North America there isn't even a fansub of it in North America which is saying something because there are a lot of hardcore anime fans out there. In Italy there are DVDS available of it right now because it was shown back there in the day (along with I belive puroresu which was big for at least awhile). Our main man Jeff is the guy who has the tapes. They come in from about the 70the episode and go to the end of the series. Than there is one random episode at the end with a Destroyer look alike! All in raw Japanese and animation limited (still they did a great job with what I'll call tlhe "camera work" but I definitely enjoyed it. Thanks a lot to this valuable sight which gives short descriptions of the episodes. I don't know if you get anything from Jeff or not but I don't see how it would really hurt to put on the 1st volume (he's got about 7 or 8 volumes) while making a compilation tape or something. http://www4.airnet.ne.jp/pancra/tigre/ If you do read the episode descriptions DON't read what the plot of the final episodes are. If anyone ever does watch the series I would reccomended watching 1 episode, running to the internet and reading the summary of that episode. Beware, the show is very violent. More violent than any FMW match you can think of. I would also like to point that the wrestling matches that occur in the series are more physcology laden than any series I can think of. I should mention that the show can drag a little at times no doubt due somewhat to there being no subtitles but it's still worth watching. The music in the series I also liked a lot. German suplexes with a bridge back around 1970. How could anyone not love that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted December 12, 2004 Kobashi is surreal, in not only his athletic abilities, but his desire. Anyone who's familiar with his work will know that his "burning spirit" is no gimmick. Inspirational. There's one thing about keeping your passion when you're young and strong. It's another thing alltogether to keep your passion after doing something that is so physical for so long. To keep the "eye of the tiger" for so long is such a proclaimation of fighting spirit. Rocky III is underrated in that respect because that message of how hard it is to maintain the "eye of the tiger" is so true in real life. I don't think enough people truly understood the message it was conveying in it. It hurts me to watch Kobahsi sometimes. He is visably so hurt. You can see it in every movement he does in the ring. The movements don't have the speed they used to have. Yet, you can tell he's using every single fiber of his being in doing what he's doing. Kobashi's still working at his 110% and while that hurts me while watching him it also makes me smile at how determined someone can be. The pain he must be going through with every movement he does has got to be excruciating. WP -- If Kobashi had as much determination in some other aspect of life he'd probably be looked at as the nuttiest person on Earth. Oh wait, he often is looked as one of the craziest persons on Earth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted December 13, 2004 Has anyone seen Jack and the Scottsman (episode of Samurai Jack)? Watched that last week and thought it was really good. Loved the way the tension builds when they meet on the bridge. AND THE OPENING IS A TRIBUTE TO YOJIMBO!!!!! I was seriously "marking out" when I saw that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted December 13, 2004 No, I haven't watched this episode but I have watched "Jack and the Scotsman, Part II" which is episode #17. The first Jack and the Scotsman is one of the random episodes I missed. Yup, tribute to Yojimbo. Gotta love it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted December 13, 2004 Hmmm, Astroboy makes it to yet another cover of a book that either explains Japanese influence or anime. Interesting how he manages to do that but still doesn't get the recognition he deserves with the fans over here in North America. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Monday Night Jericho Report post Posted December 14, 2004 I suppose anime doesn't quite stick out as much as it used to because of all the special effects they can do in movies these days. Still, they'll always have my appreciation for being the first to show what the human imagination can really do especially since I started watching it before all the special effects started coming out. And trust me on this one. You will see imaginative stuff you'd never see in any other kind of medium. Pah, so many films these days are dictated by special effects. It's so shallow that some films are actually almost based solely around how visually impressive they are. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against special effects; it's just that I'll take imagination and creativity over them any day. Grave of the Fireflies is reccomended by everyone as one of the most depressing movies ever. As a matter of fact, I think Ohtani's Jacket just reccomended as a movie that hurt him badly in his moive thread over at smarkschoice. I *really* must see this... Spirited Away is a joy to watch. Same with Princess Monoke. I've seen PM pimped all over the place, but have neglected to check it out thus far. What is the general theme? I'll probably seek "Spirited Away" out in due time. There's one thing about keeping your passion when you're young and strong. It's another thing alltogether to keep your passion after doing something that is so physical for so long. To keep the "eye of the tiger" for so long is such a proclaimation of fighting spirit. Rocky III is underrated in that respect because that message of how hard it is to maintain the "eye of the tiger" is so true in real life. I don't think enough people truly understood the message it was conveying in it. It hurts me to watch Kobahsi sometimes. He is visably so hurt. You can see it in every movement he does in the ring. The movements don't have the speed they used to have. Yet, you can tell he's using every single fiber of his being in doing what he's doing. Kobashi's still working at his 110% and while that hurts me while watching him it also makes me smile at how determined someone can be. The pain he must be going through with every movement he does has got to be excruciating. JHM recently said something along the lines of Kobashi being purity in a business that is heaving with infection... And that sums up Kenta really well in my estimation. I would love to see Kobashi train (I assume you would as well) and see what kind of a schedule he maintains. I bet he's an animal in the gym. Though I do wonder though what kind of trouble he has with squats and other leg lifts considering that his knees are like jellyfish these days. I'm also curious about the neck-strengthening exercises he does - I wouldn't like to take a guess as to how long he could hold a bridge (I know Karl Gotch held one close to an hour). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites