Masked Man of Mystery Posted January 1, 2004 Report Posted January 1, 2004 I've been meaning to ask this for a while: What are the varios MMA groups, and how are they differant(rules, ring/cage, etc.)? I know UFC fights in the Octagon cage, and I've heard of a few people via UFC Throwdown and when some went into WWF, and I've heard of K-1 and Pride and Pancrease, but I know very, very little else
Guest RickyChosyu Posted January 1, 2004 Report Posted January 1, 2004 K1 features a few MMA fights on their big shows, but mostly, it's just a kick-boxing organization, not really MMA. I'll leave this thread to others who know about the more obscure MMA groups.
Guest bort Posted January 1, 2004 Report Posted January 1, 2004 With all of these questions about MMA and threads on it maybe it should get its own Forum
Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist Posted January 1, 2004 Report Posted January 1, 2004 We did ages ago, but there was a lack of interest
AboveAverage484 Posted January 1, 2004 Report Posted January 1, 2004 Okay, I'll try my hand at this. 1. PRIDE FC - Pride is fought in a regulation sized boxing ring, with the normal rounds being 10-5-5. No elbows or headbutts are allowed, but everything else is pretty much allowed, within reason (i.e. no groin shots, hair pulling, etc.) Popular Pride fighters: Kazushi Sakuraba, Igor Vovchanchyn, Wanderlei Silva, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Fedor Emelianenko, Mirko Cro Cop, Quinton Jackson 2. UFC - Basically the same rules as PRIDE except it's conducted in an octagonal ring surrounded by a fence or cage. Also, elbows are allowed, but knees and kicks to a downed opponent are not. Some famous UFC fighters, past and present: Randy Couture, Ken Shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Royce Gracie, Tito Ortiz, Mark Coleman, Tank Abbott 3. K-1, not really a MMA per se, but it pretty much attracts the same fans. Stand up fighting only, no elbows allowed. Downed fighters receive a ten count. Normal rounds are five three minute rounds, while tourney matches are three three minute rounds. Every year 16 fighters fight in an elimination round in October. The surviving eight fighters are paired up in a year-end tournament to crown the K-1 Champion. Famous K-1 fighters: Ernesto Hoost, Peter Aerts, Andy Hug (R.I.P.), Mike Bernardo, Jerome Le Banner. 4. Pancrase - Not really as knowledgable about this as the rest but Pancrase is probably the oldest MMA organization still around today. "Classic" Pancrase rules were similar in a way to Pride and UFC but with a few little twists. No closed hand strikes were allowed at all, knees and kicks only allowed while standing, and a down constituted a 10 count. Also, a fighter being put in a submission hold had the oppurtunity of grabbing the ropes and having the ref break the hold. Recently, the rules have started to conform more to "standard" MMA rules. Famous Pancrase fighters: Bas Rutten, Ken Shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Masaktsu Funaki, Minoru Suzuki, Semmy Schilt, Yuki Kondo 5. RINGS - Rings allowed all manner of strikes (sans elbows/headbutts) to the body while standing, but only punches to the body were allowed on the ground. No knees or kicks allowed on the ground. Famous Rings fighters: Rings never really had any main stays since their fighters usually just jumped around, but Tsuyoshi Kohsaka and Kiyoshi Tamura were two fighters who were real popular in Japan. As of this writing, I believe the Rings organization is currently defunct. There are some other organizations such as King of the Cage, Extreme Fighting Championships, all of which's rules are very similar to UFC. Hope I helped somebody out with my vague and rushed and probably flawed FAQ of MMA.
AmericanDragon Posted January 1, 2004 Report Posted January 1, 2004 I just thought I'd add this pic for no reason. It's Ken Shamrock vs Bas Rutten in their first pancrase match.
Masked Man of Mystery Posted January 1, 2004 Author Report Posted January 1, 2004 Okay, I'll try my hand at this. 1. PRIDE FC - Pride is fought in a regulation sized boxing ring, with the normal rounds being 10-5-5. No elbows or headbutts are allowed, but everything else is pretty much allowed, within reason (i.e. no groin shots, hair pulling, etc.) Popular Pride fighters: Kazushi Sakuraba, Igor Vovchanchyn, Wanderlei Silva, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Fedor Emelianenko, Mirko Cro Cop, Quinton Jackson 2. UFC - Basically the same rules as PRIDE except it's conducted in an octagonal ring surrounded by a fence or cage. Also, elbows are allowed, but knees and kicks to a downed opponent are not. Some famous UFC fighters, past and present: Randy Couture, Ken Shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Royce Gracie, Tito Ortiz, Mark Coleman, Tank Abbott 3. K-1, not really a MMA per se, but it pretty much attracts the same fans. Stand up fighting only, no elbows allowed. Downed fighters receive a ten count. Normal rounds are five three minute rounds, while tourney matches are three three minute rounds. Every year 16 fighters fight in an elimination round in October. The surviving eight fighters are paired up in a year-end tournament to crown the K-1 Champion. Famous K-1 fighters: Ernesto Hoost, Peter Aerts, Andy Hug (R.I.P.), Mike Bernardo, Jerome Le Banner. 4. Pancrase - Not really as knowledgable about this as the rest but Pancrase is probably the oldest MMA organization still around today. "Classic" Pancrase rules were similar in a way to Pride and UFC but with a few little twists. No closed hand strikes were allowed at all, knees and kicks only allowed while standing, and a down constituted a 10 count. Also, a fighter being put in a submission hold had the oppurtunity of grabbing the ropes and having the ref break the hold. Recently, the rules have started to conform more to "standard" MMA rules. Famous Pancrase fighters: Bas Rutten, Ken Shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Masaktsu Funaki, Minoru Suzuki, Semmy Schilt, Yuki Kondo 5. RINGS - Rings allowed all manner of strikes (sans elbows/headbutts) to the body while standing, but only punches to the body were allowed on the ground. No knees or kicks allowed on the ground. Famous Rings fighters: Rings never really had any main stays since their fighters usually just jumped around, but Tsuyoshi Kohsaka and Kiyoshi Tamura were two fighters who were real popular in Japan. As of this writing, I believe the Rings organization is currently defunct. There are some other organizations such as King of the Cage, Extreme Fighting Championships, all of which's rules are very similar to UFC. Hope I helped somebody out with my vague and rushed and probably flawed FAQ of MMA. Thanks, that helped a lot. I assume fights are to KO or submission except where noted, correct?
AmericanDragon Posted January 1, 2004 Report Posted January 1, 2004 There's also decision, tko, or throwing in the towel.
razazteca Posted January 1, 2004 Report Posted January 1, 2004 Canada has UCC or is called TKO now? David Loiseau, is a champion of the group. 2 Hot 2 Handle is from Holland and its big stand out is Alistair Overeem. Get the magazine Fight Sport it covers several MMA groups from around the world.
Lei Tong Posted January 1, 2004 Report Posted January 1, 2004 Don't invest in Fightsport too much. They've closed up shop. A very important org that's yet to be mentioned is Shooto. It runs monthly shows, and features mainly fighters in the lower weight classes. Because of this, you can find the highest concentration of 130-169lbs. talent in the world there. The "Big 4" names that have established and come from the event are Enson Inoue, Rumina Sato, Caol Uno & Hayato Sakurai.
razazteca Posted January 1, 2004 Report Posted January 1, 2004 So the last issue of Fightsport is the one with Quintin Jackson on the cover?
AmericanDragon Posted January 2, 2004 Report Posted January 2, 2004 Another random pic. This isn't mma though, it' K-1 but usually K-1 shows have a few MMA matches on them.
RavishingRickRudo Posted January 2, 2004 Report Posted January 2, 2004 That whole highlight reel (found at ironlife.com) is fantastic.
AboveAverage484 Posted January 2, 2004 Report Posted January 2, 2004 Don't invest in Fightsport too much. They've closed up shop. A very important org that's yet to be mentioned is Shooto. It runs monthly shows, and features mainly fighters in the lower weight classes. Because of this, you can find the highest concentration of 130-169lbs. talent in the world there. The "Big 4" names that have established and come from the event are Enson Inoue, Rumina Sato, Caol Uno & Hayato Sakurai. Wow, forgot about Shooto. Add Egan Inoue to that group. People forget about him a lot, even if he did lose to F'n Carl Malenko.
Lei Tong Posted January 2, 2004 Report Posted January 2, 2004 Actually, I don't think Egan ever fought for Shooto. He's actually the cornerstone of Hawaii's Superbrawl promotion.
AboveAverage484 Posted January 2, 2004 Report Posted January 2, 2004 You got me Lei Tong. I always get those two mixed up for some strange reason.
Masked Man of Mystery Posted January 2, 2004 Author Report Posted January 2, 2004 That whole highlight reel (found at ironlife.com) is fantastic. Is that a good source for MMA info, or does it at least have some other good vids?
Lei Tong Posted January 2, 2004 Report Posted January 2, 2004 Bah... I still don't think he lost to Malenko. The judges gave the decision to Malenko by virture of being on top on the ground, despite doing next to nothing whilst Egan was busy working his guard.
RavishingRickRudo Posted January 2, 2004 Report Posted January 2, 2004 Is that a good source for MMA info, or does it at least have some other good vids? It's the best MMA-oriented MB that I've been to (though that's not really saying much - been to about 10-or-so). The Highlight reels are the main attraction and if you have a fast internet connection you're in heaven.
Masked Man of Mystery Posted January 2, 2004 Author Report Posted January 2, 2004 Well, I don't but I have a downlaod resumer, so it might not be too bad. Thanks all who've helped me with this
AmericanDragon Posted January 2, 2004 Report Posted January 2, 2004 The hilights at ironlife.com are down though. There's also sherdog.com and sherdog.net for the forums, but it's a pretty fucked up place. There's this one guy who's trying to convince people that lyoto machida is "pure brazilian" even though he's half japanese and half brazilian. He says that the japanese are just trying to steal a fighter from brazil by saying that, when he actually IS half/half. That's the kind of crap you get daily at sherdog. There are lot of racists on that forum that don't get banned when they should.
RavishingRickRudo Posted January 2, 2004 Report Posted January 2, 2004 A lot of the files are around 60 mbs. You'd be better off dl'ing some from Sherdog.com - they are of high quality, but the variety isn't nearly as good. Actually, yeah, go to www.sherdog.com and to their videos section.
AmericanDragon Posted January 2, 2004 Report Posted January 2, 2004 I recommend ernesto hoost's hl on sherdog. ...damnit I keep mentioning k-1 instead of mma. Well ernesto hoost is just cool. Just wait for ironlife's hilights to get back up and you'll have tons of good mma hilights.
RavishingRickRudo Posted January 2, 2004 Report Posted January 2, 2004 The highlights are down? Hmm, that's what you get when you haven't been there in a month (School has high speed internet, home has slug) I still wanna know where you got that Remy Gif from...
AmericanDragon Posted January 2, 2004 Report Posted January 2, 2004 Found it on sherdog. I have the remy hilight though. They went down like a week ago. edit: I didn't even notice that the gif has the ironlife.com watermark on it but yeah I found it on sherdog.
RavishingRickRudo Posted January 2, 2004 Report Posted January 2, 2004 I like Peter Aerts HL on Sherdog over Hoosts'. K-1 highlight reels make you go "Ooooh SHEEET!" a lot more than the MMA ones...
RavishingRickRudo Posted January 2, 2004 Report Posted January 2, 2004 Did you find the music catchy-as-fuck as well? RRR: Loves Flying Knees
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