deancoles Posted January 21, 2004 Report Posted January 21, 2004 (edited) WWE management has told Goldberg to stop using the Jackhammer as his finisher and just stick with the Spear. WWE's thinking is that the Spear is over and that the Jackhammer is not needed. Goldberg has no plans to stop using the move despite management's wishes. He knows he will be gone from WWE soon and does not intend to change his persona for them. Credit: 1wrestling.com How stupid would Goldberg have been to say ok? Edited January 21, 2004 by deancoles411
Downhome Posted January 21, 2004 Report Posted January 21, 2004 I am absolutely speachless over this.
deancoles Posted January 21, 2004 Author Report Posted January 21, 2004 I can understand the Tombstone being used on special occasions but Goldberg rarely botches the Jackhammer.
Highland Posted January 21, 2004 Report Posted January 21, 2004 I guess they're afraid that the spear/jackhammer combination puts Goldberg more over than they want him to be.
Youth N Asia Posted January 21, 2004 Report Posted January 21, 2004 It's dumb from both sides. The move hasn't seriously hurt anyone that I know of...so what's the big deal with keeping it. Rhyno is using the gore, we don't need 2 spear finishers. Although the move would be better if he didn't ALWAYS follow it after the spear...there's no suprise that it'll pop up out of nowhere. And Goldberg should just be thankful that he's still getting his God push even though he's leaving.
OldSchoolWrestling Posted January 21, 2004 Report Posted January 21, 2004 I actually agree with this one. His spear looks like a finisher. His jackhammer looks like the old Davey Boy Smith hold him up for an hour and suplex him move. Not as finishing as the spear.
deancoles Posted January 21, 2004 Author Report Posted January 21, 2004 It's like saying to Hogan to use the big boot but ditch the legdrop.
The Mandarin Posted January 21, 2004 Report Posted January 21, 2004 Just be thankful his new finisher isn't the mule kick.
Guest PowerPB13 Posted January 21, 2004 Report Posted January 21, 2004 Just be thankful his new finisher isn't the mule kick. I'd be thankful if he tested out said finisher on Triple H. -Patrick
2GOLD Posted January 21, 2004 Report Posted January 21, 2004 The spear is the finisher of Rhyno and Edge for a little while...or did Vince forget this? The Jackhammer gets the crowd pumped, they don't want the spear as the finisher. My half brother is a HUGE Goldberg fan and even he said without the Jackhammer it's not Goldberg. Considering Goldberg doesn't even LOOK like Goldberg anymore, I guess I wouldn't be shocked that this was true
Guest PowerPB13 Posted January 21, 2004 Report Posted January 21, 2004 I'm suddenly envisioning Vince with a pointy-haired toupee telling people to "work smarter, not harder"... -Patrick
Adam Posted January 21, 2004 Report Posted January 21, 2004 I think that is incredibly stupid. Its always been Spear, Jackhammer, win. As much as I hate the guy, dont take away the one thing that I really don't mind about him.
Guest Krazy Karter Posted January 21, 2004 Report Posted January 21, 2004 Who else uses the jackhammer?
Guest Fook Posted January 21, 2004 Report Posted January 21, 2004 Billy Gunn used it for a short time. I guess Vince wants to protect his favourites.
Guest Anglesault Posted January 21, 2004 Report Posted January 21, 2004 Why change him when he's leaving soon? Why not? FGB and his tantrums have basically made this whole situation a nightmare for the WWE. Since he's on the way out, might as well fuck with him.
Guest Goodear Posted January 21, 2004 Report Posted January 21, 2004 I have no issue with this. The jackhammer always seemed a bit tacked on for no real reason to me since the spear was such insta-death especially since Bill would take an hour and a half to finally hit the damn thing. I would just have the guy seperate the two myself so he would have two finishers for use against different people instead of always relying on the combination.
Guest Olympic Slam Posted January 21, 2004 Report Posted January 21, 2004 Billy Gunn used it for a short time. I guess Vince wants to protect his favourites. I don't think I ever saw Gunn ever get a pin-fall off of it. I always assumed that Billy only getting 2-counts off the Jackhammer was some kind of insider shoot thing. I'm probably right about that.
The Mandarin Posted January 21, 2004 Report Posted January 21, 2004 Billy Gunn used it for a short time. I guess Vince wants to protect his favourites. I don't think I ever saw Gunn ever get a pin-fall off of it. I always assumed that Billy only getting 2-counts off the Jackhammer was some kind of insider shoot thing. I'm probably right about that. It's Vince's revenge for when the time WCW had hired Virgil and called him "Vincent" to spite the real Vince, Vince McMahon, but Virgil's original name, Virgil, was Vince's hilarious take on Dusty Rhodes' real name, "Virgil something-or-other". In closing, Virgil vs. Billy Gunn would turn out to be the worst match in the history of the sport, and the downfall of professional wrestling.
Guest gregb7677 Posted January 22, 2004 Report Posted January 22, 2004 It's like saying to Hogan to use the big boot but ditch the legdrop. or like telling Austin to keep the set up kick but ditch the stunner. All Goldberg has is the darn spear and Jackhammer. Don't expose the guy's lack of moves even more than he already does on his own.
Guest Coffey Posted January 22, 2004 Report Posted January 22, 2004 This is the dumbest fucking shit I've read to date.
Guest Anglesault Posted January 22, 2004 Report Posted January 22, 2004 Don't expose the guy's lack of moves even more than he already does on his own. Why? He's leaving anyway.
NYU Posted January 22, 2004 Report Posted January 22, 2004 Don't expose the guy's lack of moves even more than he already does on his own. Why? He's leaving anyway. Well, most times I'd agree but Vince McMahon, in his infinite wisdom, has decided to revolve the biggest show of all-time WRESTLEMANIA XX around a guy that has 3 moves and will be leaving the federation immediately following the PPV. He already looks bad in the ring. Why make him look worse if you're hoping that his match with Brock will pop a huge buyrate? Hmmm....now that I think about it, this whole mess shall work out well.
MarvinisaLunatic Posted January 22, 2004 Report Posted January 22, 2004 Next thing you know, they'll tell Goldbeard he can't use the spear, and he'll resort to doing that "ARGGGGGGGH" thing he does right before the Jackhammer which will cause his opponents (other than HHH) to curl up in a ball in cry for their mommy.
Guest FrigidSoul Posted January 22, 2004 Report Posted January 22, 2004 Vince: Now Goldberg, I want you to stop using the Jack-hammer and instead use just the Spear...but what to use to set it up...I know! You can kick him in the gut, once again I prove my genius.
MarvinisaLunatic Posted January 22, 2004 Report Posted January 22, 2004 Vince: Now Goldberg, I want you to stop using the Jack-hammer and instead use just the Spear...but what to use to set it up...I know! You can kick him in the gut, once again I prove my genius. Kick-wham-spear? that doesnt sound right..
Guest FrigidSoul Posted January 22, 2004 Report Posted January 22, 2004 Vince: Now Goldberg, I want you to stop using the Jack-hammer and instead use just the Spear...but what to use to set it up...I know! You can kick him in the gut, once again I prove my genius. Kick-wham-spear? that doesnt sound right.. Which is exactly why it will be done
NYU Posted January 22, 2004 Report Posted January 22, 2004 Vince: Now Goldberg, I want you to stop using the Jack-hammer and instead use just the Spear...but what to use to set it up...I know! You can kick him in the gut, once again I prove my genius. Kick-wham-spear? that doesnt sound right.. Which is exactly why it will be done Well, the eyerake has become a popular setup move for finishers lately. It'd fit in perfectly with Goldberg's tough-guy character. *Kane waves his hand around waiting to chokeslam Goldberg. Goldberg gets up slowly.....and POKES KANE IN THE EYE!* Kane: Holy shit, my eye! *Goldberg SPEARS Kane* And the match is over. That should flow into the match better than kick-wham-spear. Now kick-wham-trip-growl SURELY could work.
Guest FrigidSoul Posted January 22, 2004 Report Posted January 22, 2004 Poking the eye is the weak heel set-up to finisher. He could give them a bear hug and then rub his beard against their face thus giving them beard burn, then let go of the opponent and while the opponent is rubbing their cheek trying to soothe the beard-burn he could spear them.
NYU Posted January 22, 2004 Report Posted January 22, 2004 Poking the eye is the weak heel set-up to finisher. He could give them a bear hug and then rub his beard against their face thus giving them beard burn, then let go of the opponent and while the opponent is rubbing their cheek trying to soothe the beard-burn he could spear them. I smell an angle. While he's sleeping in his locker room, Randy Orton sneaks in with an eletric razor. He shaves off Goldberg's beard and leaves him clean-shaven but Goldberg doesn't know it yet. Then, later that night, during his match with Batista, Goldberg tries to lift him up. But he CAN'T! That dastardly Randy Orton shaved Goldberg's beard and without it, Goldberg has lost all his strength! He is then easy pickings for Evolution. This sets up a top-notch Goldberg/Orton feud and continues to cement Randy's reputation as the LEGEND KILLER~! The thing writes itself.
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Posted January 22, 2004 Report Posted January 22, 2004 Who is crazier: Vince McMahon or Al Davis?
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